sky + extracting stored data

bibibobo

is it possible to copy stored programmes from the sky+ box to a dvd recorder, pc or hd recorder?

digitaldr

Short answer is no - if you figure out how I'd be very impressed:) If you're upgrading to a bigger hard disc you can however copy the contents of the old disc to the new one using a program called copy+

Jip

digitaldr wrote:

Short answer is no - if you figure out how I'd be very impressed:) If you're upgrading to a bigger hard disc you can however copy the contents of the old disc to the new one using a program called copy+

Eh, I've never done it but I thought it was very simple from "RTFM". Do you not just go to the program you want to copy and press whatever button it is to copy to DVD ?

loyatemu

yep, or just press "Play" on Sky+ and "Record" on your DVD\HD recorder

patpark121

Scart to scart & away you go.

Kotek Besar

If the OP is referring to extracting data from the hard drive and manipulating it on a PC, producing video files that a PC read and play, then I agree with digitaldr. It don't think it has ever been done. I've never researched fully the reasons why, but as far as I understand it's to do with the way Sky format the drive and the file system they use. To my knowledge, it's never been replicated or decoded. Shame really.

Rippy

The HDD records the NDS encrypted data stream as it is received at the tuner .
It does not de-crypt it. It can be copied to another correctly formated HDD but is useless without the sky + box to process and de-crypt.

Kotek Besar

Rippy wrote:

The HDD records the NDS encrypted data stream as it is received at the tuner .
It does not de-crypt it. It can be copied to another correctly formated HDD but is useless without the sky + box to process and de-crypt.

Ah yes, that's it Rippy - I remember now. The video data is stored encrypted and when the Sky+ box plays it, it decodes it just as it does the live satellite feed.

Clever Sky eh? So even if you extract the data and dump it on a PC, you can do nothing with it because it's still subject to Sky's bulletproof encryption systems.

Zaphod

It's possible to copy non-Videoguard-encypted (FTA) programmes from a Sky+ HD to a PC using Extract+.
http://neildoh.org/Software/Extract/extract.htm

It's also possible to record a Videoguard-encrypted stream (e.g. C4 using a PCI DVB-S card) and descramble the following day using a legit card and a smartmouse iinterface.

So it's potentially possible to copy a Videoguard-encrypted programme from a Sky+ HD to a PC and descramble it like above. It's just that no one has tried it yet, to my knowledge.

watty

Though it's not simple. The program Zaphod mentions is because the Sky+ and SkyHD add an extra layer of encryption, even to FTA programs.

No matter what sub you had when recording, you need a card that matchs what package it was, when you playback as the card is used to de-crypt the on-Air encryption. A Sky+ sub is needed for card to decrypt the FTA content.