Puking, Kissing the clown, Chucking etc....

Smellyirishman

So, what's your opinion on it?

I ask because, as some of you may have noticed, there is a video on crossfit today in which one of the participants is puking through the workout. Now, she wasn't puking too bad I guess, but that's not my point. A couple days ago in the gym, I felt like puking, I let it die down and went again but quickly the feeling returned so I called it a day.

Now, partially because I didn't want to hurl all over the lovely wooden floors of the gym, I don't think I would ever bring myself to puking if there was a choice to stop it. What is there to gain? Your body has clearly been worked and is going to progress, step down from the macho soapbox and come back another day. Or should you push through just because the sheet says you have to do X reps?

Personally, I've been sick twice while training both during GAA training. Once when I was actually sick and trained anyway and another time when I was back from a long break and piggyback runs pushed me over the edge. I stopped both times, and don't feel like I gained anything from it.

Ding waffle done.

davyjose

Smellyirishman wrote:

What is there to gain?

Nothing - puking is your body's way of telling you there is a problem. Anyone who really does care about their body would listen to it.
I've often felt nautious after a heavy legs session, but that's a bit different, because I've already realised I've pushed as far as I can go.
but if you find yourself puking in a gym, then you've done something wrong, probably eaten too much too close to your workout.

unreggd

My mate's on a girls basketball team and they got some crazy American coach in one time and he brought buckets because he said they'd be pukin or they're not workin hard enough

its a loada me oxboll

If I feel even nautious, I take a break, if it persists, I call it a day

But goin as far as feelin like you're gonna puke is crazy talk

eroo

thats just fcukin ridiculous.vomiting is not right,your body is telling you it can handle something in the system,to train through that is a sure sign your a twat

crotalus667

eroo wrote:

to train through that is a sure sign your a twat

Tell that to the para's they have a saying if you stop to puke during a run it's "what the F**K did you stop running for:cool: "

Ive only ever hurled once during a work out that was after a big night out coming off a stupid diet:rolleyes: I finished my last set of my last exercise got up started walking towards the shelf where my stuff was , then I got the feeling so I darted for the fire exit once out side, I brought a load of water , but the worst thing about it was the heaves that seemed to come from my crotch it was like someone reached down my throat and tried to pull me inside out

eroo

sounds fun:p
did ye ever hear the story about ger loughnane and the clare hurling team of 95/97??he brought them out for a big slap up 3 course meal...then he brought them training..by running them up and down a very steep hill until they were all gettin sick..then told them 'this is what it feels like to lose'...and it worked,they won the All-Ireland that year!!!

Roper

eroo wrote:

thats just fcukin ridiculous.vomiting is not right,your body is telling you it can handle something in the system,to train through that is a sure sign your a twat

Terrible grammar aside, me, and a lot of other athletes must be twats then.

Or, secret option b, I train a lot of cardio, and intense cardio upsets your stomach sometimes. Not always, but sometimes. It's not harmful to continue training afterwards.

Maybe some people need to train a little harder to hit that nearly puking stage...:rolleyes:

Colm_OReilly

Just watched that vid now, can't say I agree with it.

Now, I think that girl was sick, because she began puking very early on in the wod.

It's a part of CF I don't particularly agree with, but I can see the point. Reaching the point of throwing up is reaching your intensity threshold - and some view it as akin to failing on the 1RM of a lift, or sprinting your fastest 100m.

I've never reached the point of throwing up, and have pushed myself pretty damn hard at times rowing and crossfitting.

I've had athletes throw up after MMA sessions because they've reached that point of intensity. The key thing is most of them didn't realise they were at that point. Some of them have even gotten back on the mats and trained afterwards.

Colm

The Shane

If you are hanging around a gym with no real intention of making any serious gains (fitness gains, not just mass) then chances are you can train and never feel sick. If on the other hand you are going to compete in some kind of sport and would maybe like to win - then you should probably at some stage in your training push yourself as hard as you can go.

While I don't like the idea of trying to work to puking everyday or as a matter of course, if you're training and not making yourself a little ill every now and again - you're probably going too light.

As an aside, one of the Crossfit coaches in Manchester made the interesting point that effort aside workouts with more head movement are more likely to make you sick. The corollary - it might not be intensity or fatigue that are making you ill, but a lot of movement and the disorientation.

Shane, The

BossArky

When I was back in my final year at U.L. I managed to throw up at the top of the stairs on the way out. Cannot remember exactly what I was doing to get in that state.

Anyway, I had a fleece with me, so took it off and mopped up as best I could... then walked off cradling my lunch from earlier in my fleece. Passing by the reception I told one of the people to send the cleaners up. They were fine about it.

Got home and dumped the fleece into the sink until I could get together the money to put the fleece into the washing machine :rolleyes:

eroo

Roper wrote:

Terrible grammar aside, me, and a lot of other athletes must be twats then.

Or, secret option b, I train a lot of cardio, and intense cardio upsets your stomach sometimes. Not always, but sometimes. It's not harmful to continue training afterwards.

Maybe some people need to train a little harder to hit that nearly puking stage...:rolleyes:

i know that to get results you have to work hard.there have been times i was on the brink of getting sick and obviously i felt like ****.but if your on the brink of getting sick nearly every time you train then you seriously need to re-think your training.its not sufficient to say that if you are training hard for something then you need to feel sick every time.take the irish rugby team,if they were getting sick every time they were in the gym,they wouldnt perform as well at rugby training afterwards.basically,i like to push my body but i also like to be able to enjoy my training.sure i feel real bad after an interval session,almost got sick a couple of times,but overall i like to look forward to a workout.simple as....you have your preferences,i have mine...bad grammar aside;)

Hanley

In fairness dude, you're 16. You lack the exp. of a few of the guys on this site when it comes to pushing yourself (and the people they train) to the sort of limits needed to become an international standard competitor.

Roper's been around the block and has competed at a very high level in combat sports and I know he's trained a few good fighters too so he obviously know's what is going on in that regard.

He never said anything about pushing to that stage every session. You'd probably fairly quickly overtrain anyway if you tried to do it multiple times per week for a sustained period. Back when I used to play soccer, pre-season was always BRUTAL. We'd be running intervals 3x a week on top of normal training. It was disgusting, I hated it, vomited a few times. But it whipped us into shape in no time.

Barry, sorry for answering for you but I just thought it was something that needed a quick reply!!

eroo

so just cos im 16,i cant train as hard as others??i may not be able to bench 200kg and i am certainly not a pro but i put 100% effort into everything i do..it may not be as much as you but i do my very best at the best pace EVERY time i train...dont count me out because of my age...btw im not doubting anyones experiences but id appreciate if i wasnt written off because of my age..i get enough of that already..i do my very best and give it my all..
rant over:rolleyes:

as i said i still disagree with training on after getting sick unless your training for something professional..

hardtrainer

Vomiting during a period of intense training is normally as a result of low blood sugar. High intensity and/or long duration cardio sessions and very intense heavy weights sessions (legs particularly) can rapidly deplete blood sugars leading to some dizziness, lightheadedness and ultimately vomiting.

It is your body trying to tell you something..you need some sugar.

Next time you feel like you're going to vomit, have something to eat, something small, even a sugary drink, and you'll feel better in a few mins and can continue training.

Roper

Hanley wrote:

In fairness dude, you're 16. You lack the exp. of a few of the guys on this site when it comes to pushing yourself (and the people they train) to the sort of limits needed to become an international standard competitor.

Roper's been around the block and has competed at a very high level in combat sports and I know he's trained a few good fighters too so he obviously know's what is going on in that regard.

He never said anything about pushing to that stage every session. You'd probably fairly quickly overtrain anyway if you tried to do it multiple times per week for a sustained period. Back when I used to play soccer, pre-season was always BRUTAL. We'd be running intervals 3x a week on top of normal training. It was disgusting, I hated it, vomited a few times. But it whipped us into shape in no time.

Barry, sorry for answering for you but I just thought it was something that needed a quick reply!!

No you've pretty much said what I would have said.... except I would have said it better...:D

Hanley

eroo wrote:

so just cos im 16,i cant train as hard as others??i may not be able to bench 200kg and i am certainly not a pro but i put 100% effort into everything i do..it may not be as much as you but i do my very best at the best pace EVERY time i train...dont count me out because of my age...btw im not doubting anyones experiences but id appreciate if i wasnt written off because of my age..i get enough of that already..i do my very best and give it my all..
rant over:rolleyes:

as i said i still disagree with training on after getting sick unless your training for something professional..

No, because you're 16 you don't have the experience necccessary to know what it takes to push yourself to compete on a world level. You don't know what it is to live for your chosen sport and spend every day trying to get better at it. That means training to the point of vominting from time to time. And I don't mean training hard for 3 months. I mean pushing yourself over and over for 5+ years.

To call someone a "twat" because they prepared to push themselves to the absolute limit of their physical capabilities is highly disrespectful and shows you lack perceptive.

Vegeta

hardtrainer wrote:

Vomiting during a period of intense training is normally as a result of low blood sugar. High intensity and/or long duration cardio sessions and very intense heavy weights sessions (legs particularly) can rapidly deplete blood sugars leading to some dizziness, lightheadedness and ultimately vomiting.

It is your body trying to tell you something..you need some sugar.

Next time you feel like you're going to vomit, have something to eat, something small, even a sugary drink, and you'll feel better in a few mins and can continue training.

Yeah I have to say I have puked a few times doing hi-rep sessions and it is exactly as described above. First I get dizzy and light headed and then the gawks start and if I continue training I will puke.

The first time I needed to puke, I left my house (train at home) went round the corner to get some air and puked in the nieghbours hedge

Then went back in and did 2 more exercises.

Now when I feel sick I know its because I did something wrong in my prep. I miss timed my pre workout meal. Usually I have eaten too close but same feeling when I haven't eaten for a while.

I trained for kickboxing and a bit of mma for 3 years in college (under Tim Murphy in UL) and only puked once because I ate too close to training.

I honestly think if you are of a moderate fitness level and puking then take a look at why. Obviously if you go from being unfit and destroy yourself doing high intensity cardio or intervals then expect some chunder.

Dragan

Can we get back to the topic at hand instead of telling each other why our opinions are not really valid? Thanks.

Regards puking during training, yes, i have done it. Leg day would normally be what got to me, and a few of the WOD's from Crossfit did me in nicely.

Hardtrainer has posted the basic cause of it, it's simply pushing your body to a point where homeostasis is a distant memory.

Smellyirishman

Dragan wrote:

Regards puking during training, yes, i have done it.

And continued on regardless? Without eating or resting?

Isn't Homeostasis the bodies ability to operate/survive because of all the different functions within the body? (I'm not biological whizz) Don't think I'd like to see that go bye byes! I'm sure I'm misunderstanding though.

thirtyfoot

I regularly puke during training sessions on the track for athletics. Particularly at this time of the season when you are in a heavy conditioing period. All athletes I've trained with regularly get sick in a session and see no problem. Its usually when I up the intensity from one cycle of training to the next, the first couple of sessions at the new intensity are killers and then the body seesm to adjust.

If I stopped a session when I was feeling sick or felt like puking I wouldn't complete many of my ball breaking winter conditioning work. Its par for the course for many athletes of many sports, both part-time and elite.

davyjose

Smellyirishman wrote:

And continued on regardless? Without eating or resting?

Yeah, that's where I think it becomes a problem. Not actually puking, but puking and then pushing on through when your body clearly doesnt have the resources. Besides, puking mid-rep is surely the height of bad-manners.