Has anyone ever seen 'God'?

blobbyblob

Well. New to here so hello to all. Just want to share something that happened to me personally when I was in my late teens and get your opinions on it.

I was home alone for the summer while my parents were away on holidays. Sleeping at the back of the house you might get a little nervous at night when you hear strange noises so youd be on alert before going to sleep. This night was no exception. Fell asleep eventually about 12 until I was woken at about 4.

Looking at the end of my bed, I saw God so I sat up. It wasnt Jesus or the Holy Sprit or any other spirit. Don't ask me why know this .Anyway He was at about kneeling height dressed in red and expressionless apart from having the perception of being very peaceful and starred right at me. I said nothing and He said nothing for about 30 seconds. I just lay down and went back to sleep. There was no blinding light or choir of angels singing or smells. I wasnt dreaming. Any fear I had of being alone in the house for the remainder of the holiday disapated that night.

Im in my early 30s now. Im not a religious nut. I've been to mass about 3 times in 5 years. I do pray regularly and I do put trust in God. I will stand over what I saw til the day I die. I would pass a polygraph with flying colours if questioned. I strongly believe in an after life or life in another dimension as both myself, my parents and grandparents have had previous extreme independant unexplainable experiences. I think were all level headed individuals not prone to flights of fancy.

Has anyone ever heard of anything like this?

stevenmu

Welcome to the forum Blobbyblob. I've heard of things like this, altough usually people would think it is Jesus or Mary or an angel.

We have a spirituality forum here too that this might be better suited to if you'd like me to move it over ?

edit: the paranormal forum is generally for trying to understand what an experience was, what may have caused it, if it was really what you thought it was etc. The spirituality forum would generally be more accepting of the experience itself and would look at the deeper meanings behind it

blobbyblob

Nah - leave it where it is. As I said. Im not looking for the meaning of life or some message from heaven or anything. Its not a thread about 'finding' Jesus either.

Thanks Steve

Oryx

My thoughts on this will take a more spiritual bent, being as I would accept what happened to you as you saw it.

I dont have an awareness of god as a singular omnipotent being. Not even a recognisable 'person' in the sense we have been taught by religion. I do believe in a greater power, be that light or energy or the holy spirit. My feeling is that this 'power' can show itself to us in a form that we will accept and recognise. In your case a figure you would identify as God. Perhaps someone else would see a different but equally meaningful God figure.

In answer to your last question, I have had similar experiences, not seeing God as such, but things that were deeply spiritual and moving for me.

As you have left this post in the paranormal section, I hope someone will come along with a scientific viewpoint on how or why this could happen also, as a different take on the whole thing, but that would not be my area.;)

Zillah

KtK wrote:

As you have left this post in the paranormal section, I hope someone will come along with a scientific viewpoint

Can do love.

blobbyblob wrote:

I wasnt dreaming.

I wonder how you can be so sure of that? You were in bed, only "woke up" for about thirty seconds and then went back to sleep. Its not like you went and watched TV or made some phonecalls.

Saruman

To bring another side to this... have you heard of a Lucid dream?
Take a look at the wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream Then move down to "False awakenings" Its very possible you were in fact still dreaming while having a lucid dream.

If you read the next part about Sleep paralysis you will also see why so many people believe they abducted by aliens, or in the past were bing abused or whatever by demons etc.
Especially feeling a presense on their bed and being unable to move. This is not what happened to you, im just showing you that while you may not think you were sleeping, chances are you were.
Oh and i have had both of these happen to me on many occasions but im fully aware of whats happening.

6th

Well seeing as a paranormal approach is being taken to this then Zillah's point is very valid.

Faith, belief and "knowing" it was God are all well and good but what was it that made you make the conclusions you have?

blobbyblob

Cheers Guys - This was the stuff i was looking for...especially this lucid dreaming/temporary paralysis thing. Thats something worth thinking about.

Sorry to side track but ever heard of someone entering a field but not being able to find their way out for 3 hours(in not such a big field)...

Zillah

blobbyblob wrote:

Sorry to side track but ever heard of someone entering a field but not being able to find their way out for 3 hours(in not such a big field)...

No....

Did you get trapped in a field for three hours?

Terrlock

Yep, I've actually seen god myself.

I was able to do it by learning how use my mind to come out of my own body when I sleep. Once in this state I can fly around to any place and literally do anything.

I did it a few times, but only once did I see god and it blew me away when it happend, it was a huge experience. A good bit different from what you seen in that. I'm not going to describe it right now but yes it can happen.

After that happend I haven't tried Astral projection as its called again.

Zillah

Terrlock wrote:

After that happend I haven't tried Astral projection as its called again.

What convinces you its not simply Lucid Dreaming?

mathias

I normally stay away from such discussions through lack of knowledge but I have to bite here ,

What convinces you its not simply Lucid Dreaming?

Where is there a scientific discription/Definition of lucid dreaming , lucid dreaming is no different than any other "story" ,for want of a better word.

Its a phenomena whos existence is based on collected stories surely , and as such is just substituting one unknown mystery for another is it not ?

Or is there evidence of lucid dreaming besides the recollections of the dreamer ? How do you collect evidence of a dream ? You can monitor REM patterns and say that someone thats asleep is dreaming alright , but outside of a lab , how do you say a dream is a lucid dream or that what anyone saw is a lucid dream?

Saruman

mathias wrote:

Where is there a scientific discription/Definition of lucid dreaming , lucid dreaming is no different than any other "story" ,for want of a better word.

I take it you did not read the wiki link i posted? Now wikipedia is not infallible of course since people can edit etc... however it does list the names of scientists who have studied it. It is scientifically verified according to the wiki.
Nothing supernatural, its just a normal part of sleep that happens to some people.
I would hazard a guess that it happens to light sleepers, people who can wake up pretty easy when there is a noise etc. I used to be like that and back then i could control dreams, would wake up paralysed and have to wait a few mins for my body to wake up or see odd lights that were not there as i was still technically in REM sleep. It does not happen any more, i sleep like a baby and it takes a lot to wake me up. Good ole 5htp I now snore though...

By the way... there is a sleep/dreaming forum... OP check it out.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=827

In fact there is one about someone seeing Jesus

Blackhorse Slim

blobbyblob wrote:

.Anyway He was at about kneeling height dressed in red and expressionless apart from having the perception of being very peaceful and starred right at me.

It wasn't god. It was Santa Claus.

Zillah

mathias wrote:

Its a phenomena whos existence is based on collected stories surely , and as such is just substituting one unknown mystery for another is it not ?

Lucid dreaming is not unknown in the slightest. Its very well documented. I myself have tried it. There's no reason to assume there's anything mystical about lucid dreaming. Its a dreamstate where the dreamer becomes aware that they are dreaming and can exert a degree of influence over the events of the dream. Countless accounts verify this.

The thing about Astral Travel is that if it were real it would be incredibly easy to prove.

DarkWinter

Let me guess, "God" was a caucasian male, getting on in years, had a white beard, and a miraculous peaceful expression?

stevenmu

Blackhorse Slim if you want to continue posting here please read the charter, and stick to it.

6th

Zillah wrote:

Countless accounts verify this.

As many account as there have been about ghost sightings over the years and across many cultures?

Stoner

blobbyblob wrote:

Sorry to side track but ever heard of someone entering a field but not being able to find their way out for 3 hours(in not such a big field)...

that rings a bell for me alright, never happened to me, but was it something to do with fairy rings or something, I remember similar stories from when i was a kid. something to do with going into a fairy ring and not being able to find your way out of the field , but i dont think three hours was mentioned.

Hellm0

I met god while tripping on Thai mushrooms. Regardless of the fact that I was under the influence at the time I found it was an extemely religious experiance and not something I put down to "just the drugs".

Poltergoose

Heres just something i've been thinking about recently.Ok lets say ghosts are real ,now all the famous sightings of the virgin mary ,jesus,saints,god etc. ,what if these apparitions were all of just ghosts of regular people but because it was a deeply religious person of strong faith who saw them they concluded it must be Mary,god,saint etc.If you have never seen any of these people how would you know its them,accounts i've read of holy apparitions sound like how a regular joe would describe a ghost.
If you were to see an apparition and If you think of it as holy then you will feel peaceful inside but if you think of it as just a ghost you will feel fear as people have been brought up to think ghosts on the most part are evil.

Also heard of that field thing before, it has something to do with fairy rings for sure but not sure what

Dave!

Hellm0 wrote:

I met god while tripping on Thai mushrooms. Regardless of the fact that I was under the influence at the time I found it was an extemely religious experiance and not something I put down to "just the drugs".

Are you kidding me?

Hellm0

Nope. Wasnt an old white dude with a beard, it's hard to describe. Again, whilst I WAS on drugs it was a moment I can only describe as religious.
For the record though I'm not claiming to have "met" the biblical god, my religious beleifs(what few I have) are definitly not mainstream and beleive it or not the experiance I had fits in with them nicely(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atman_%28Hinduism%29 descibes it partially).

Zillah

6th wrote:

As many account as there have been about ghost sightings over the years and across many cultures?

Probably far less! I have no doubt that the majority of people who claim to have seen a ghost have seen something that they think was a ghost. Where the comparison ends is how we explain it. Lucid dreams are dreams of a slightly unusual nature wherein the dreamer becomes aware they are dreaming. That fits entirely within all the other information we have about how the world works so its a perfectly fine theory.

Spiritual/mystical explanations for ghosts are not the same, any explanation we come up with requires many assumptions (the soul exists, we survive death, stone can record events), and so are not good theories.

oleras

blobbyblob wrote:

Sorry to side track but ever heard of someone entering a field but not being able to find their way out for 3 hours(in not such a big field)...

Its on the start of fairytale of new york, from the live Christy Moore album, at the point i think, he describes meeting Shane Magowen for the first time, something about stepping into a fairyfort and not coming out for 3 days iirc.

Thats the only time i have heard it.

fifth

Terrlock wrote:

Yep, I've actually seen god myself.

I was able to do it by learning how use my mind to come out of my own body when I sleep. Once in this state I can fly around to any place and literally do anything.

I did it a few times, but only once did I see god and it blew me away when it happend, it was a huge experience. A good bit different from what you seen in that. I'm not going to describe it right now but yes it can happen.

After that happend I haven't tried Astral projection as its called again.

I had this happen to me once, it was involuntary though.

Dave!

Hellm0 wrote:

Nope. Wasnt an old white dude with a beard, it's hard to describe. Again, whilst I WAS on drugs it was a moment I can only describe as religious.
For the record though I'm not claiming to have "met" the biblical god, my religious beleifs(what few I have) are definitly not mainstream and beleive it or not the experiance I had fits in with them nicely(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atman_%28Hinduism%29 descibes it partially).

That's interesting.

But honestly -- you were taking a known hallucinogen and you saw something "paranormal", yet you refuse to attribute it to the drugs?

mesa1

hi blobbyblob no but im pretty sure that i saw an angel. she was kneeling beside a bed with a pure white dress long black hair but had no face that dident seem to bother me though.i wasent asleep as i wasent in the bed.i turned way for a second and wen i looked back she was gone.im not sure wat or who she was but i know someone was there for a few seconds

blobbyblob

With regards to the trapped in a field thing, it happen on 1st May 1985 on the night my grandfather died. My father was tasked with bringing in his cows to be milked that evening. He walked the half mile down to the field to retrieve them. Once he got to the field he noticed that one of the cows had got stuck in a ditch. After about 30 minutes he managed to get her out but could not find the exit to the field. As with most heards of cattle, they would generally know that it was milking time and head for the gate. On this instance, the cows refused to go near any exit or ditch and my father couldn't find the gate either. As easy as it disappeared, it reappeared very close to him after a while. He was honestly disturbed after this happened and stands by the story to this day.

Havermeyer

hi blobbyblob no but im pretty sure that i saw an angel

im not sure wat or who she was

???

Contradicting yourself within the space of a few lines? So are you or aren't you sure?

And why on earth does so many people, who claim to have seen god or jesus or whatever, always claim to see them in the form of the images that have been man made? i.e. caucasian jesus, with a long beard!? When, if he did exist or not, was not caucasian!?

Baffles me how religions still have so many followers. It scares me actually.

ooter

i hope nobody thinks i'm taking the piss by posting in this thread but i saw the title and i thought it has to be a sign.
Matthew 4:23 all those who have a red heart can rejoice,for they have seen god.
that's what's written on the t shirt i'm wearing at the moment.
take from that what you will.......

Zillah

ooter wrote:

take from that what you will.......

I have no idea how to take it...

Is it implying that everyone has seen God? For me he looked either invisible or exactly like something else.

Saruman

Anyone see that show weeds? There is an ep where the lazy brother in law orders T-Shirts from china and they end up being spelled wrong.
They say "Chris died for your sins"
He thinks he is screwed as no one will buy them but his nephew wears one to school and next thing he knows all the kids want them.
This post has no relevance to this thread, however i want one of them T-Shirts. It sounds better than Ooters and is less cheesy than a Buddy Christ

By the way....
http://www.digbysystems.com/emtlist/images/human_heart.jpg
Not all that red is it? Only thing that makes the human heart red is when its covered in blood. I guess the guy that wrote that passage was unaware of this.

There is also the fact that Matthew 4:23 says NOTHING about a red heart in any translation... your T-Shirt is wrong Thats what you get for believing what you see on a T-Shirt

beans

I have become aware of God, in that I have been aware of the connectedness of the universe, the underlying identity. It wasn't really like seeing God in front of me, more like looking in a mirror... Like the universe becoming aware of itself. Nice moment.

If I ever do see God I'll bet she's smoking hot and likes Beck

Saruman

beans wrote: »

I have become aware of God, in that I have been aware of the connectedness of the universe, the underlying identity. It wasn't really like seeing God in front of me, more like looking in a mirror... Like the universe becoming aware of itself. Nice moment.

If I ever do see God I'll bet she's smoking hot and likes Beck

Now thats a better description of God. The universe itself is God, we are a part of the universe and so are part of God. However God has not appeared to us and made his presence known as its not a being living in the universe.
This is the only way i can believe in any God. Certainly not what any religion thinks of as God. God does not deserve to be worshipped nor does it expect it.

Anyway... Sure god is seen in the number 42

dj_quinn

Hmmm, Hebrew legend and the Zoaroster are pretty adement that a human being cannot stare into the face of God or say God's true name. remember Moses and the burning bush? If you've had a clearer vision than Moses or Abraham, I would suggest you do some reading before you convince yourself it was God you saw.
You say he was dressed in red?
Standing at the edge of your bed?
Did he have white hair and a beard?
Was it Christmas Eve?

6th

dj_quinn wrote: »

Hmmm, Hebrew legend and the Zoaroster are pretty adement that a human being cannot stare into the face of God or say God's true name. remember Moses and the burning bush?

Are we to presume that these are 100% accurate and unquestionable?

beans

a human being cannot stare into the face of God

In much the same way as you cannot look yourself in the eye without the use of a mirror (LSD)

cookiebliss

Iv heard of folktales and legends about people being trapped in a field for 3 hours. In most cases this is ascribed to the 'hungry grass' or 'fir gorta' in irish tradition. this is where if a person trods on a partical patch of grass (the hungry grass) they will become disorientated and get lost in an area that is usually familiar to them. to counteract this folk tradition says that if you keep a bit of bread in your pocket and eat it after you thread on the hungry grass then you will be ok. in folklore these patches of grass are usually considered as the graves of famine victims or unbaptised children.

also the fact that your father was tending to cattle when he experienced this is interesting as it is widely believed in folk tradition that the faries coveted cattle and often abducted them into their otherworld.