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Some quick Vegas Questions.

  • 02-10-2007 12:00am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭


    Off to the Land of Sin next weekend so some quick questions (fairly sure these have been answered on other threads over the years but what the heck?).

    1. Tourneys. Any decent-structured non crap-shooty tourneys in the $100 to $150 range (which don't charge 25% fee either). I know allVegasPoker gives some decent info, but perhaps someone will have a personal recommendation?.

    2. Cash. I've never played any live cash, and little more than 1000 hands online at micro-limits, (I don't really like it compared to STTs/MTTs.) However I can see myself playing a fair bit in Vegas.
    So strategy wise is playing a basic nitty game a good idea ?(i.e. limping with PPs for set value, limping with suited A rags in LP. Then being ultra aggressive when flops hit me, but going into check-call mode with the likes of TPGK etc. Very little bluffing. Only openraising with the top 5% of starting hands). Basically the sort of stuff that would be noticed after 10 minutes on 5/10c online, is it a worthwhile strategy in $1/$2 or $1/$3 in Vegas.

    3. Books, any recommendations for a 'Basic Live Cash' book to read on the plane over, preferably something I can buy in Dublin over the next couple of days.

    4. Alcohol and Poker. Do they really give you free drink whilst you are playing?

    Cheers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Slash/ED


    They do give you free alcohol, yes :)

    As for 2, the real answer is "It depends". I only spent a few hours in Vegas, but played on two tables. The first one was nitty as hell, and I was hyper aggressive and basically stole a full buy in. The second one was a sit and wait for the nuts kind of table. The low stakes there seem wildly unpredictable as alot of players are simply tourists who maybe won a bit of money playing roulette or something and play the odd home game of poker so decide to give it a shot, it should be very very easy to get reads on the people on your table within a few hands of sitting down and your strategy will be fairly clear from there. Look out for drunk lunatics (Or anyone availing fully of the free drink) and nut peddle against them and just go crazy against the nits.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Do your drinking after your poker. They dont mix.

    I was open raising to $15 on a 1/2 and getting 4 callers every time. $20 seemed to trim it to 1 or 2 callers.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭58o


    Hey Slash E/D. shouldnt your SIG read "Hellen Keller" or "stevie wonder"instead of Ann Frank. Ann Frank wasnt blind?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    2. Cash. I've never played any live cash, and little more than 1000 hands online at micro-limits, (I don't really like it compared to STTs/MTTs.) However I can see myself playing a fair bit in Vegas.
    So strategy wise is playing a basic nitty game a good idea ?(i.e. limping with PPs for set value, limping with suited A rags in LP. Then being ultra aggressive when flops hit me, but going into check-call mode with the likes of TPGK etc. Very little bluffing. Only openraising with the top 5% of starting hands). Basically the sort of stuff that would be noticed after 10 minutes on 5/10c online, is it a worthwhile strategy in $1/$2 or $1/$3 in Vegas.
    Take a while to see how your table plays, there will be plenty of retards at 1/2 or 1/3 but its more important to know who the calling stations and occasional good players are.
    3. Books, any recommendations for a 'Basic Live Cash' book to read on the plane over, preferably something I can buy in Dublin over the next couple of days.
    The last 2 times I've been to Vegas I've taken a couple of books with me, and read neither. Bring an Ipod instead, and try to get some sleep on the plane, you will need it. There has been a 4th-day collapse on both of my trips.
    4. Alcohol and Poker. Do they really give you free drink whilst you are playing?
    Yes, just tip the waitress a dollar for bringing it to you. Tip her a little more early in the night if you want her to keep coming back to your table alot. Venetian and Wynn for hot waitresses , Caesars for not hot waitresses.
    Hey Slash E/D. shouldnt your SIG read "Hellen Keller" or "stevie wonder"instead of Ann Frank. Ann Frank wasnt blind?
    She still couldn't see **** in that attic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Russh


    Venetian is one of the best for tourney structures.....

    They're all stations.....Play tight, aggresive....they love their A rag over there, so your AK-AJ will get paid off big time, if ya hit A high flop.....raise with your pp's...

    Within a couple of sessions of cash, you'll learn more than you will reading on way over... ..Agree with catching some sleep on plane....


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  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    lafortezza wrote:
    Caesars for not hot waitresses.
    One of the ones in Ballys was the most depressing waitress ever. She was slow, had a terrible memory, was over 60, had a knee brace on, sounded like the guy in Monty Python shouting "Bring out your dead", but instead she cried "Beverages", and the worst of it all, she had to wear a dress that was cut way too low for someone like her. I am shuddering now as I recall it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    5starpool wrote:
    One of the ones in Ballys was the most depressing waitress ever. She was slow, had a terrible memory, was over 60, had a knee brace on, sounded like the guy in Monty Python shouting "Bring out your dead", but instead she cried "Beverages", and the worst of it all, she had to wear a dress that was cut way too low for someone like her. I am shuddering now as I recall it.
    I remember her, I'm pretty sure she knocked back henbane's amorous advances at least twice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭ZZR1100


    5starpool wrote:
    One of the ones in Ballys was the most depressing waitress ever. She was slow, had a terrible memory, was over 60, had a knee brace on, sounded like the guy in Monty Python shouting "Bring out your dead", but instead she cried "Beverages", and the worst of it all, she had to wear a dress that was cut way too low for someone like her. I am shuddering now as I recall it.

    so.. did u score or not????


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    ZZR1100 wrote:
    so.. did u score or not????
    I tried all I could to get my hands on her tips (yes, tips, honest), but she was taken she told me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭connie147


    Id recommend Caesars Palace for the tourneys.Great value with v. good structures.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Cheers for all the replies (i've a mate of mine whose speciality is copping off with ladys like that waitress, he's a very sick individual).

    Connie, I was looking at a link which said that Caesers had a bit of a strange blind structure.

    "Caesars’ poker tournament has a bizarre blind structure. At blind level two, the blinds are $50-$100. At level three, they shoot up to $100-$200 with a $25 ante. That means the cost of going through a round of ten hands almost quadruples, from $150 to $550 in a single jump. "

    Is it just a case of getting through that level and then the structure is fine?.

    Edit : Just noticed my quote is from the same link Ollieboy posted, coinkidink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    connie147 wrote:
    Id recommend Caesars Palace for the tourneys.Great value with v. good structures.
    You must of played a different one than I did! I pleayed one of the 11am daily 200 games when I was there (during the WSOP). Of the 200$ 35 went to the casino. The levels were ok for the first 3 or so but then started doubling! At about level 6 it was all-in or fold for pretty much everyone. The levels were 30 or 35mins iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭ZZR1100


    Imposter wrote:
    You must of played a different one than I did! I pleayed one of the 11am daily 200 games when I was there (during the WSOP). Of the 200$ 35 went to the casino. The levels were ok for the first 3 or so but then started doubling! At about level 6 it was all-in or fold for pretty much everyone. The levels were 30 or 35mins iirc.

    Cant remember the exact structures when i was there but it was better than most other small BI tourneys ( 40 min blinds ).
    they did announce that they were about to start new deeper stack / better structure tourneys shortly. Cant say if they have done this though..
    the house take IS high though


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