Leinster Paranormal Carlow Investigation results

iamhunted

We just completed an investigation in Carlow at a private residence. We ended up with three clips, all audio, that we cant explain. check it out at http://leinsterparanormal.com/v1/?page_id=20 and feel free to let us know your thoughts on the forum there.

Stoner

Thanks for sharing iamhaunted

iamhunted

no hassle - we just really want to tie this one up and move on to the next one

Stoner

What are you using to clean up your EVPs?

Do you add any white noise when recording?

iamhunted

nope - we just record digitally using a few SM58 mics and a firewire audio input for the mac, straight onto either Cubase or Logic. We dont process the audio other than a small bit of EQ and volume boost. any audio off video/handheld recorders we listen to on the original device and if theres something worth listening more to we transfer it to the mac.

I can understand the use of white noise though - or indeed running water as it provides a background noise that will make any other noise stand out, but sometimes you just have to be careful you dont introduce noise you ears will mishear later on. at the minute we keep everything as raw as possible and if it isnt something we can clearly hear then we dont count it. I'd say we'll start experimenting with other techniques to see how they pan out.

Stoner

iamhunted wrote:

I can understand the use of white noise though - or indeed running water as it provides a background noise that will make any other noise stand out, but sometimes you just have to be careful you dont introduce noise you ears will mishear later on. to see how they pan out.

That's fair enough, but there are some other thoughts on white noise.
The idea being that the "voices" we hear belong different classes of sound. It takes energy to create a sound, so some people think that they get better EVP with white noise, some say it takes less energy to manipulate the white noise then it does to create a sound from nothing, i.e. the white noise forms the building blocks for an EVP.

I dont know if you have tried EVP maker? here it is anyway
http://www.stefanbion.de/evpmaker/index_e.htm

you can get it to produce white noise, and record at the same time (once your sound card is capable of playing and recording), however it also has the ability to record your own conversation and chop it up into different bits, you can also structure the white noise to allow for easier filtering later on.

iamhunted

hmm ... i would agree voices are sound, but i dont buy the white noise is a building block for an EVP - its a nice assumption but not something I'd put credit in until I heard consistant EVPs created that way. still I suppose the only way to do that is to experiment ......

Stoner

Ok I listened to them, they sound pretty good.

The one on the stairs yeswhis_upstairs1_10623_1.mp3

I dont think that's "yes" I know Kim said she heard yes, but I had a look at the sound and I think its something like "Bridgit" or maybe "But Yes" .

We had that camera moving up and down once in an investigation in my offce (6th was there) so were the soulsearchers

BTW the assumption is not mine, it's this guys Dr. Konstantin Raudive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon

your right though, suck it and see.

stevenmu

Stoner wrote:

you can get it to produce white noise, and record at the same time (once your sound card is capable of playing and recording), however it also has the ability to record your own conversation and chop it up into different bits, you can also structure the white noise to allow for easier filtering later on.

That sounds like a good idea, I take it that instead of the 'white noise' being random, it's formula based so the software can then cancel it out of your recording ?


The use of white noise is fairly popular in trying to record EVP, altough I have some doubts about it too. I read one site where they claimed to be getting EVP by recording white noise from a generator in a closed loop (i.e. no microphone). This could mean that something was able to influence either the equiptment or the recording media directly, but it's also very possible that it's simple that your brain tries to pick patterns out of the noise.

iamhunted

Danny would be our EVP man so Im sure he'll set up a white noise experiment somewhere along the line. I must read that article.

Weird thingabout that yes on is that when its played backwards it sounds awfully like 'serves her right' or something of that nature. Must dig out the reversed version and post a link to it ....

Stoner wrote:

Ok I listened to them, they sound pretty good.

The one on the stairs yeswhis_upstairs1_10623_1.mp3

I dont think that's "yes" I know Kim said she heard yes, but I had a look at the sound and I think its something like "Bridgit" or maybe "But Yes" .

We had that camera moving up and down once in an investigation in my offce (6th was there) so were the soulsearchers

BTW the assumption is not mine, it's this guys Dr. Konstantin Raudive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon

your right though, suck it and see.

iamhunted

stevenmu wrote:

I read one site where they claimed to be getting EVP by recording white noise from a generator in a closed loop (i.e. no microphone). This could mean that something was able to influence either the equiptment or the recording media directly, but it's also very possible that it's simple that your brain tries to pick patterns out of the noise.

i once saw an image experiment based on the same idea - an image loop generated from two devices facing each other and the point was to see if any other images appeared. I think that also could be the brain seeing things (or matrixing as TAPS like to call it)

Stoner

I think the idea is similar to a glancing hearer in football, all the effort is put in by the guy who kicked the ball, someone only needs a small amount of energy to direct the ball to where they wanted it to go, but without someone else providing the powerfull kick the other guy can't direct the ball the way he wants.

not that a story about football would go down well here

DANNY22XX

iamhunted wrote:

i once saw an image experiment based on the same idea - an image loop generated from two devices facing each other and the point was to see if any other images appeared. I think that also could be the brain seeing things (or matrixing as TAPS like to call it)

that experiment is call video itc,its basicly you get the cam link it to the tv or video rec for ten mins then play back frame by frame,still down to what you see,ive tried this but to no avail also very dangerous to people suffering from epilespsy,flashing light and so on:(

DANNY22XX

iamhunted wrote:

Danny would be our EVP man so Im sure he'll set up a white noise experiment somewhere along the line. I must read that article.

Weird thingabout that yes on is that when its played backwards it sounds awfully like 'serves her right' or something of that nature. Must dig out the reversed version and post a link to it ....

its ok using whitenoise ,or a running tap etc,i have tried this and got some scary results,the only thing is there is no such thing as an evp maker just a name for a sound programme.belive me ive been doing this thing for years and all you need is the raw clip,i am hunted and i did an experiment and put a bang into a sound program played it forward and reverse i think it was audicty ,he will correct me if im wrong, is sounded like hello when all it really was ,was a bang,thats why when you start to use sound programmes for filtering you are at nothing ,you are just adding to the cllip and trying to hear what is there and what has just been added from the filter.
say no filters they didnt need them when i started doing evp and any of my friends from aa evp dont use sound filters just the raw clip

kshiel

Stoner wrote:

Ok I listened to them, they sound pretty good.

The one on the stairs yeswhis_upstairs1_10623_1.mp3

I dont think that's "yes" I know Kim said she heard yes, but I had a look at the sound and I think its something like "Bridgit" or maybe "But Yes" .

We had that camera moving up and down once in an investigation in my offce (6th was there) so were the soulsearchers

BTW the assumption is not mine, it's this guys Dr. Konstantin Raudive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon

your right though, suck it and see.

It was an answer to a yes or no questions hence the yes;)