Just out of curiosity...

Dudess

Honestly, that's all. I'm just wondering why Terry banned Demonique from the thread "Let's talk about scumbags" on After Hours. I know he posted five comments in a row but they didn't seem that offensive. Terry says the banning is for trolling. Just wondering if he could give more detail.
It's really just out of curiosity. I honestly didn't think Demonique meant any harm... but I know I could be wrong.

thefinalstage

Terry is a very strict moderator in a forum thats meant to be a laugh. They don't really mix. That is all.

AlmightyCushion

Shíts and giggles?

petes

IMO trolling is a bannable offence.

Dudess

Oh me too (look at my sig). But Demonique didn't appear to be trolling - in my opinion anyway. I can usually spot 'em.

petes

Dudess wrote:

Oh me too (look at my sig). But Demonique didn't appear to be trolling - in my opinion anyway. I can usually spot 'em.

I don't think I've seen the thread but you say five posts in a row. I think s/he was looking for attention.

Dudess

Yeah it sounds it, but I think the poster was just trying to articulate how strongly they felt about the issue at hand (scumbags). However, it is true that they could have just put all comments into one post.

petes

Dudess wrote:

Yeah it sounds it, but I think the poster was just trying to articulate how strongly they felt about the issue at hand (scumbags). However, it is true that they could have just put all comments into one post.

Thats true, they should have put it all in the one post. If you start posting more posts on the matter in hand in succession, in my opinion thats trolling and a deserved ban.

Ah well its not if I haven't been banned fromafter hours before. Not from trolling though!!

Pighead

Pigheads not sure of the nuts and bolts of Terrys reasoning but you can be pretty sure theres alcohol involved in this sorry tale.

Dudess

Pighead, you're not supposed to post anywhere besides After Hours. Get out of here at once!

petes

Pighead wrote:

Pigheads not sure of the nuts and bolts of Terrys reasoning but you can be pretty sure theres alcohol involved in this sorry tale.

There is alcohol n my sorry tale!"!

Pighead

Dudess wrote:

Pighead, you're not supposed to post anywhere besides After Hours. Get out of here at once!

Of course you're right Dudess, but Pigheads worried about Terry and his addiction which seems to be spiralling out control. Can one of the Admins give him a call and make sure he's ok.

In future maybe it would be better if Mods agreed to abstaining from all drinks of the alcoholic nature before they take up their role as Community Watchdogs. Theres a few kids in AH that have been scared stiff when Terry gets drunk and disorderly.

copacetic

Dudess wrote:

Honestly, that's all. I'm just wondering why Terry banned Demonique from the thread "Let's talk about scumbags" on After Hours. I know he posted five comments in a row but they didn't seem that offensive. Terry says the banning is for trolling. Just wondering if he could give more detail.
It's really just out of curiosity. I honestly didn't think Demonique meant any harm... but I know I could be wrong.

they didn't seem that offensive? you must be shitting me. They were about as offensive as you can get. Clearly case of trolling for a reaction, good ban imo. Just because you appear to agree with what the idiot was saying doesn't make it any less offensive to normal people.

4 of the posts compiled below if anyone is interested

trolling scumbags wrote:

Why would you need to do that, surely everyone can tell they're scumbags anyway by the way they dress

Yeah, I get the vibe of benefit b*tch (what the yanks called a welfare skank), basically breeds in order to get benefits from the government. I knew a girl who got pregnant purely to get a council house

Courtesy of benefit fraud in a lot of cases

Turn vigilante and go scumbag hunting or hire someone to do a hit on some scumbags

Pighead

copacetic wrote:

Just because you appear to agree with what the idiot was saying doesn't make it any less offensive to normal people.

Post reported.

Dudess

Copacetic, there were PLENTY of similar comments made by other people on that thread. And there was all that concentration camp/identity bracelet "banter" - tongue-in-cheek yes, but no better than what Demonique posted.

An Citeog

Dudess wrote:

Copacetic, there were PLENTY of similar comments made by other people on that thread. And there was all that concentration camp/identity bracelet "banter" - tongue-in-cheek yes, but no better than what Demonique posted.

Demonique's posts didn't read in that tone though. That and the five 2 line posts in a row were deserving of a ban imho.

copacetic

Dudess wrote:

Copacetic, there were PLENTY of similar comments made by other people on that thread. And there was all that concentration camp/identity bracelet "banter" - tongue-in-cheek yes, but no better than what Demonique posted.

what has that got to do with it?

you said these comments weren't offensive. they are.

Pherekydes

copacetic wrote:

Originally Posted by trolling scum

Post reported.

RoundyMooney

Trolling.

Straight seven day ban.

Simple stuff, lads and lassies.

Copa, relax d00d, 'tis only the internet

copacetic

Slow coach wrote:

Post reported.

:rolleyes: of course we all knew pighead was joking and you weren't. your rep precedes you, and not in a good way....


roundy, i thought you would have at least got the (obviously too subtle) humour???


edit - post above edited to make attempt at humour a bit clearer..

Pherekydes

copacetic wrote:

:rolleyes: of course we all knew pighead was joking and you weren't. your rep precedes you, and not in a good way....

Eh? Explain?

Dudess

copacetic wrote:

what has that got to do with it?

you said these comments weren't offensive. they are.

And my point was, if that's the case, many other posts on the thread were also offensive.

copacetic

Dudess wrote:

And my point was, if that's the case, many other posts on the thread were also offensive.

i think there was at least another couple of bannings on that thread? either way that is no reason for this individual to think they would get away with it.

Karoma

She also created another thread of similar nature, picking on poor Anto, priot to this (Which ended up in the Thunderdome)
She posted repeatedly along the same lines to the point that it was seen as trolling. It was a judgement call. It was Terry's judgement. I can see where he's coming from.

She is either trolling, or an attention-whoring-scumbag-hating-wave-rider. Either way, you give her too much credit. She's no loss. Why do you see it as your battle, OP? Why didn't you PM Terry to discuss the matter?

Dudess

Fair enough (and my mistake for referring to Demonique as a guy thus far).
I wasn't fighting her battle, just nosey.
Copacetic, read the thread again - there are PLENTY of other comments in a similar vein to hers. Other than posting five comments in a row (which was being silly) I couldn't see anything any more offensive than what other people had posted.
Estebancambias was banned because he was actually being nasty. Nobody else was banned.
But I wasn't aware of Demonique's other stuff, so if she had it coming, she had it coming.

copacetic

Dudess wrote:

Copacetic, read the thread again - there are PLENTY of other comments in a similar vein to hers.

read my posts again. I didn't say there wasn't, I said that that isn't an excuse for her posts. The old everyone else was doing it excuse never flies. This is some farce of a fight the powah thread tbh.

6th

Dudess wrote:

Honestly, that's all. I'm just wondering why Terry banned Demonique from the thread "Let's talk about scumbags" on After Hours. I know he posted five comments in a row but they didn't seem that offensive. Terry says the banning is for trolling. Just wondering if he could give more detail.
It's really just out of curiosity. I honestly didn't think Demonique meant any harm... but I know I could be wrong.

If you honestly just wanted to know you would have sent a PM to Terry.

monkeyfudge

6th wrote:

If you honestly just wanted to know you would have sent a PM to Terry.

Oh, well when you PM Terry one thing leads to another.... usually with sexy results...

6th

Not always, and even when that happens he's a very tender lover. Actually on that note ..... Terry, call me?

Dudess

copacetic wrote:

This is some farce of a fight the powah thread tbh.

Oh for god's sake, how many times do I have to say it: it ISN'T a fight-the-powah thread. And why do you feel the need to point that out anyway? Who gives a **** whether it's a good thread or not? Are you having a bad day or something? You already made a hostile comment to Slow coach.
I didn't start this thread to DEFEND Demonique, my curiosity got the better of me. I didn't see any obvious reason to ban her, but I was bearing in mind that there may be other not-so-obvious reasons to ban her and I was feeling very nosey and bored (the nights are closing in earlier, it's getting cold - you know yourselves) so I decided to try and find out. Karoma informed me that, yes indeed, there were other reasons for the ban. End of story.

you said these comments weren't offensive. they are.

That's the angle I was looking at - whether there were other offensive comments on the thread. And there were plenty that were just as bad as Demonique's.

6th wrote:

If you honestly just wanted to know you would have sent a PM to Terry.

I see what you mean since a lot of people start threads in Feedback looking for a whinge and in the hope that others will join them in their whinge, but honestly that is not why I started the thread. I just decided to put it in Feedback - I don't know, it seemed logical and it was a spur-of-the-moment decision. I didn't think too much about how I'd address it. So, with respect, please don't make assumptions about me. You can't read my mind. And I did ask Terry on the thread itself and all I got as my reply was "trolling" so where's the guarantee he would have elaborated in a PM?
Anyway, I'm kind of afraid of him...

monkeyfudge wrote:

Oh, well when you PM Terry one thing leads to another.... usually with sexy results...

That too.

6th wrote:

when that happens he's a very tender lover.

Damn! Ok I hold my hands up. I should have PM'd him.

6th wrote:

Terry, call me?

Wow! A similar request from AlmightyCushion a few nights ago. Me and The Gooner fighting over you - Terry, you are one desired man! ... And you're not even around to experience it.

Karoma

I think we can let the original topic die, unless Demonique wants to add something.

Now, more importantly...Terry scares you? Are you often attracted to scary men?

Dudess

Darn straight!

Ask me who's hotter: Ming or Flash - no contest, Ming wins hands down.

RoundyMooney

Ming!

Awww Hawww!

He'll Scare Every One of Us!

Dudess

Yeah but I'd say all that pent-up aggression... filthy, filthy man!

Terry

Hi. I'm really drunk.
I'll be back in the morning and i'm going ot rip tihs thread to shreads.

dudess. You got away with two warnings today in AH. Don't push your luck.

Everyone else, I need head.

RoundyMooney

Blow me.

On a serious note, in his infinite sobriety (at the time), Terry was right.

No more to be said surely.

Terry

Dudess wrote:

Yeah but I'd say all that pent-up aggression... filthy, filthy man!

Check the dates.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055155722

Irish Wolf

Humour me please Dudess - provide a link to this total misjustice

I thought Terry had provided the link - but somehow I ended up in the ThunderBlow..

Dudess

Terry:
To be fair, Karoma kindly explained everything to me so I understand the banning now. I wasn't saying straight out that you were wrong, just that I couldn't understand what the banning was for.
I think it would make sense to lock the thread at this point, but whatever is decided, I've nothing more to say. My question has been answered.
Irish Wolf, I never saw it as an injustice - it just puzzled me, that's all. The offending poster had done previous stuff to piss people off and I wasn't aware of her history so it didn't look as obvious a banning offence to me. But I see now where the mods were coming from.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055154349

Terry

I don't ban people at random.
I always have a reason.

The Sweeper

(Psst!!! Is five pints a reason? I'm just wondering like.)

Dudess

Didn't think that either. Knew you had a reason and I was dying to know what it was (because I was fairly confident it was more than just the five posts and that the OP had some sort of history). And judging by that Thunderdome thread (of which I wasn't aware) you had bloody good reason.
Also, the fact that the OP didn't run over here whinging, added to my confidence that she had a history.

monkeyfudge

Dudess wrote:

Darn straight!

Ask me who's hotter: Ming or Flash - no contest, Ming wins hands down.

Bah... Klytus was the best.



Fetch me the bore worms!

Irish Wolf

Umm.. did you miss this post?

Why bring this to Feedback? You applauded Terry for banning estaban on the same thread.. You're not the only user on this site that can spot a troll - just cause your troll-dar was borked there's no need to open up this can of crap..

I say - fill Terry up with booze - he's way too nice when he's sober

Dudess

That's because Esteban was being really malicious, I didn't think Demonique was, but that's because I didn't know her history. However I do now.
I've explained ad nauseum why I brought this to Feedback - pure and utter nosiness, wanting to know what I had missed because it didn't seem like a troll to me (at the time).
No I didn't miss that post (as I also mentioned on this thread) but I was keen to get more info. It's not a very detailed answer.

Irish Wolf wrote:

You're not the only user on this site that can spot a troll - just cause your troll-dar was borked there's no need to open up this can of crap..

Why not? It's what Feedback is for. You're the second person to remark on what a crap thread this is - if it's that bad... um... why bother posting on it?

Irish Wolf

Dudess wrote:

if it's that bad... um... why bother posting on it?

Just out of curiosity, Dudess, just out of curiosity...

There's probably a good explanation for their behaviour - maybe they're from Wales.

monkeyfudge

Irish Wolf wrote:

Just out of curiosity, Dudess, just out of curiosity...

There's probably a good explanation for their behaviour - maybe they're from Wales.

I thought they'd found a cure for that... something to do with fire?

Irish Wolf

monkeyfudge wrote:

I thought they'd found a cure for that... something to do with fire?

Haha.. no - there's no fire in Wales since they closed the coal pits down.

6th

Terry wrote:

Everyone else, I need head.

faceman

demonique is soooo demonic with her posts!

cant believe no one else said it!

faceman

Irish Wolf wrote:

I say - fill Terry up with booze - he's way too nice when he's sober