Quick line for flushed board?

Macspower

Stacks 100bb's?

I raise with a small pp and get 2 callers.

Boards comes all spades A high but I hit middle set..

I'm first to act and I bet close to the pot and 1 caller..

Turn is a non spade....... plan??

suppose I bet the pot again and 1 flat caller

Plan for a non spade river? ( i have only a PSB left)


I'm of the opinion "if he flopped it he flopped it" and still want to get my money in.... am I right or anyone play it any differently?

BobSloane

I would bet near pot again on the turn usually and call a shove.
I might check a non-spade river to let him bluff his missed draw or might shove if I thought he had TPTK or the likes. Would depend really on what I thought he was more likely to have

jayteecork

I'm forever flopping flushes and losing to a paired board on river.
I know that doesn't have anything remotely to do with your question but I thought I might stick it in.
By the way, if you flop a set, what are the odds of upgrading to the house?
I've heard it's as high as 30%.

dvdfan

Id be more inclined to let him bluff with hes single K spades or Q spades on the turn and commit him to the hand and push over the top then. If he has flopped the flush then it dosent matter were not getting away from it anyway so were looking to get the most we can from the hands were ahead of now, of course that gives him the option of a cheap chance of hitting a 4 card flush but we also have 10 outs on the river too. I see people try to bluff a flush board too often so why not let them.

Were 3.5/1 to hit the full house on the turn so thats about 21-22%
And 2.5/1 to hit on the river so thats about 28%

RoadSweeper

Your 2:1 to hit your FH after i think?

pok3rplaya

Macspower wrote:

I'm of the opinion "if he flopped it he flopped it" and still want to get my money in....

correct.

dvdfan

pok3rplaya wrote:

correct.

Yeah but as i said flush will get all in for us here we dont need to do the work, TP, 2 Pair or 1 Card Flush Draw which were all ahead of probably wont call another bet on that board but might semi bluff giving the chance and then feel committed if we come over the top or someone might try a complete bluff either if we give them the opportunity.

Conspicuous

I've heard it's as high as 30%.

Im pretty sure its 36% with 2 cards to come

Macspower

Ok little update...

I bet close to the pot on the turn and he flat calls...

I check the river to allow him to bluff his missed draw and he oblidges with a half pot bet.....

Call or all in? If he's has missed his flush as I think he might have.... is raising here bad? as he prob only calls us when he's ahead? Or maybe we get called with Ax Qs or something? 1 pair 1 spade etc etc...

gosplan

You gotta bet the turn which you did.

I guess you've got to go on the river.

With how much is in the pot...flushes, especially small-medium ones would have pushed on the turn so you can pretty much say he's either missed it and is playing a decent A or top two.....or he's slowrolled a nut flush beyond any recognition.

If the latter is the case, he'll take your stack but played it poorly.

dvdfan

Conspicuous wrote:

Im pretty sure its 36% with 2 cards to come

Yep its around that IF we are all in on the flop

dvdfan

Macspower wrote:

Ok little update...

I bet close to the pot on the turn and he flat calls...

I check the river to allow him to bluff his missed draw and he oblidges with a half pot bet.....

Call or all in? If he's has missed his flush as I think he might have.... is raising here bad? as he prob only calls us when he's ahead? Or maybe we get called with Ax Qs or something? 1 pair 1 spade etc etc...

How much is in the pot when he bets half the pot and how much is left for him to call if you push??

cardshark202

Generally with hands this strong I prefer to shove as there are still a good few weaker ones which can call me. With a hand like AJ, I like to check-snap the river, letting him bluff the missed flush

Macspower

dvdfan wrote:

How much is in the pot when he bets half the pot and how much is left for him to call if you push??

Ok from memory..
Blinds 1/2
stacks 200 each.. I have 200 even as I 've just started at the table... It's actually my first hand..

I have 5h5d in the BB and 1 limper mid position and the sb competes.. I think it's a good spot to take the pot there and then so I make it 9. both limpers call.

Flop As 5s 3s
(pot 27)
SB checks I bet 25 MP calls and SB folds.

(pot 77)
Turn Qh I bet 65 He calls.

(Pot 207)
River 7d.... I check to allow him to bluff the missed flush/ bet his A etc etc...

He bets 50....... call / push? fold? (lol...well it is an option for those who think outside the box?)

valor

shove the river yourself, its half pot

gosplan

I'm guessing from omitting it in your first post that the fact the mighty 4-6 got there on the river doesn't make a difference.

Macspower

gosplan wrote:

I'm guessing from omitting it in your first post that the fact the mighty 4-6 got there on the river doesn't make a difference.

lol not quite...


Anway not worthy of much discussion really... the decision from most seems to be to ge the money in and if he has it he has it... and of course he had it!!! K8 spades with the limp call flops the nuts and I pay him all the way including shoving for my last 50...

ianmc38

Paul I'm still waiting to read a hand where you actually won!

Macspower

ianmc38 wrote:

Paul I'm still waiting to read a hand where you actually won!

you mean I can actually win some as well? wow... new take on things..

I only really post the ones that hurt me to see if I did it right........

Ok specially for you I'll come up with a hand that I won this week

phantom_lord

dvdfan wrote:

Id be more inclined to let him bluff with hes single K spades or Q spades on the turn and commit him to the hand and push over the top then.

i would think he's far more likely to check behind fds and other hands which he'd call a bet with.