Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Weird BB smooth calls

  • 26-09-2007 11:57am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭


    50NL, 100bb effective. Second hand at the table. I'm in the SB with As Kc. UTG pots it ($1.75), Button calls and I make it $8 to go. BB smooth calls and the original raiser and caller fold.

    Flop: Ks Ts 6c - Pot: $19


    Whats your plan for the hand?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭*Counterfeit*


    Lead, and keep leading?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭ozpoker


    You're way past the commitment threshold for the effective stack sizes, and you caught a good flop that is very draw heavy. Design a line that gets the stacks in, probably bet pot on flop, bet pot all in on turn. If you are beat, don't worry about it too much until you play in a deeper stacked situation.

    -Oz-


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    bet call all in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    id usually just bet/call but i think checking is fine. it will make is earier to stack QQ/JJ, which he probably has a fair amount of the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭BobSloane


    I would probably bet and keep betting. Obviously its nicer when the flop comes A high instead of K high but if he has smooth called with AA pre-flop with 2 players to act behind him and risked going to the flop 4-way thats his business.
    Its an interesting situation though - you're going to have to bet say $15-$17 on the flop which pretty much means you can't fold after that. He's not calling that bet though with worse than AK so is there any actual value in betting the flop here?
    Most people here would advocate betting strong hands hard for value at $50NL and I suppose this is a strong hand..?

    In the OP you have the K of clubs and the K of clubs is also on the flop..?:confused:
    If you had AsKs or the K of spades is on the flop giving you 4 to the nut-flush then I'm betting it with a lot more confidence of course


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    ianmc38 wrote:
    bet call all in.

    You don't think smooth calls like this represent a very narrow and crushing range?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    BobSloane wrote:

    In the OP you have the K of clubs and the K of clubs is also on the flop..?:confused:

    Good catch. Fixed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    pok3rplaya wrote:
    You don't think smooth calls like this represent a very narrow and crushing range?
    since you don't know the player it's just as likely he's a fish who could call you with any pair and more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Usually a 50NL won't smooth call with AA or KK. 1010 is the only hand I worry about but not to much, bet etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    pok3rplaya wrote:
    You don't think smooth calls like this represent a very narrow and crushing range?


    edit: oops, misread the op.

    not really, since it's 50nl he's most likely a fish, i doubt he folds any pair here anyway, and could even turn up with some other stuff.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 900 ✭✭✭CaptainNemo


    A lot of bad players will smooth call like that with any pair trying to hit a set and not realizing they don't have the correct implied odds.

    You're either way ahead or way behind (i.e. he is unlikely to have a king unless he has 2 of them) and he's unlikely to have any draws you should worry about (surely he hasn't smooth called with AsQs there?) so I think check/calling it is a valid way to play and may induce him to think he is ahead with QQ/JJ. If you bet the flop and he call/raises you may be in trouble, yet still committed to the pot.


Advertisement