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safe sex

  • 25-09-2007 5:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    just want to know how safe is having sex with a condom and not to ejaculate in the vagina?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭Knockoff Nige


    Fairly safe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Safe in what way ?

    The % of the possiblity of pregnacy occuring or of contracting a sti ?
    There are some sti that condoms to not prevent against, like gential warts and herpes.

    Using condoms is part of practicing safer sex but there are other factors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭AdrianII


    just remember condoms can rip during sex


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    '
    Thaedydal wrote:
    Safe in what way ?

    The % of the possiblity of pregnacy occuring

    yes pregnacy.. we check condoms every time we finished having sex.. we just using condoms at the moment untill my girlfriend goes on the pill which when she does we will still use condoms.. so just want to know are we safe having sex with a condom without me coming inside her?'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    Gonorrhea, chlamydia, and trichomoniasis are transmitted when infected semen or vaginal fluids contact mucosal surfaces. Because condoms block the discharge of semen or protect the male urethra against exposure to vaginal secretions, condoms provide a greater level of protection against these STIs.[2]
    Condoms also provide some protection against genital ulcer STIs—such as genital herpes, syphilis, and chancroid—which are transmitted through contact with mucosal surfaces or infected skin.[2,4] Because these STIs may be transmitted across surfaces not covered or protected by the condom, condoms provide a lesser degree of protection against them.[2]
    With typical use, 85 percent of women relying on male condoms will remain pregnancy free
    info from http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/factsheet/fscondom.htm

    To be honest, pregancy wise, you'll generally be able to tell if there's a tear or if it's rolled off too much and their is a risk of seminal fluid contact with your partner, in which case she can go and get the morning after pill within 72 hours. In my experience, I would say that condoms broke about 40% of the time, but we only used the thin ones as he didn't like the extra safe ones. Needless to say we now use another form of contraception, but only condoms provide the greatest protection against STI's , so if you're not in a monogomous relationship, I would recommend using them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    . In my experience, I would say that condoms broke about 40% of the time, but we only used the thin ones as he didn't like the extra safe ones.


    dude - you were using them wrong. in 10 years and 2 long term relationships I think 3 times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    It disturbs me to type this, but I think King of Kings might be right here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 669 ✭✭✭pid()


    Oh that's going into the signature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    I can probably (sort of) understand what you are asking. However, you may need to adapt your way of thinking. If you are having sex and are constantly badgered by whether or not a pregnancy will result, then you are, most likely, not getting the maximum out of it. Let's face it, there is a certain amount of risk with any type of contraceptive and those risks are low. Just accept the odds and be mindful of the consequences of the odds going against you.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Safe enough, is she on the pill too?! just make sure u put it on the proper way n u shud be fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    dude - you were using them wrong. in 10 years and 2 long term relationships I think 3 times.
    its happened to me once in 3 years with my gf and no kiddies yet. Definitely not using them right


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    you squeezing the air out of the tip? That can cause tears.


    uuuuh, so I am told! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    SDooM wrote:
    you squeezing the air out of the tip? That can cause tears.
    Never made me cry anyway! :D

    40% failure rate? One or both of you needs to file your fingernails!

    OP: Wear two if you are worried.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    In my experience, I would say that condoms broke about 40% of the time, but we only used the thin ones as he didn't like the extra safe ones.
    Dude, are you that guy from "40 Year Old Virgin"!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Carrigart Exile


    just want to know how safe is having sex with a condom and not to ejaculate in the vagina?

    I think you should have sex with a woman instead:D

    sorry:D

    If you are effectively practising two forms of contraceptive, condoms and withdrawal then I would say you are pretty safe. There is always a very very slight chance of condom failure, and either pre-cum or you not getting out on time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Safe enough...

    U can get a dose of the scratchies if she has them but they wont kill you.

    Take the advice given above by the previous posters it pretty much covers it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Loomis


    esel wrote:
    Never made me cry anyway! :D

    40% failure rate? One or both of you needs to file your fingernails!

    OP: Wear two if you are worried.

    Always thought wearing two was just as, if not more, likely to cause tears as the two would rub off one another and split


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    esel wrote:
    OP: Wear two if you are worried.
    THIS IS THE WORST PIECE OF ADVICE ON THE THREAD, DO NOT DO THIS.


    This highly increases the chances of it bursting due to the friction of the two together. Honest to god, I worry sometimes about the quality of advice given around here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Loomis


    THIS IS THE WORST PIECE OF ADVICE ON THE THREAD, DO NOT DO THIS.


    This highly increases the chances of it bursting due to the friction of the two together. Honest to god, I worry sometimes about the quality of advice given around here.

    Kinda stepped on my point there ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    esel wrote:
    OP: Wear two if you are worried.
    Stated already but when someone says something like this it can't be refuted strongly enough.

    DO NOT WEAR TWO CONDOMS - IT MAKES THEM FAR MORE LIKELY TO COME OFF OR RIP

    The only reason for putting on two condoms is to then point at your penis and to say in a thick faux-Kerry accent "ah, to be sure to be sure". This is funny for about 3 seconds. And only the first time.

    It is a completely useless practice as far as contraception or disease prevention goes because they will stick to each other and then be worked off your penis during intercourse, along with possibly ripping each other.

    If you want to "double bag" then use one male condom and one femidom.

    Oh. And read the bloody leaflets. They don't just exist to boost job-creation amongst copy-writers.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Kinda stepped on my point there ;)
    Yea but when advice is that bad u have to drill it home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    esel wrote:
    Never made me cry anyway! :D

    40% failure rate? One or both of you needs to file your fingernails!

    OP: Wear two if you are worried.

    This is a good example of why you shouldn't ask random strangers for advice. I realise the irony in this, but my advice is "don't ask random strangers on the internet for advice" in anything of a personal or serious nature.

    No matter how authorative they come accross, their advice is at best to be treated as unsubstantiable. You wouldn't ask a 12 year old standing outside Spar for recommendations in safe sex, would you? But, consider, for all you know everyone who replied to you could be just that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Loomis


    Bet esel will get a jolt when they read this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    So you're saying wearing 2 condoms is a..... good idea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Porkpie


    If you really want extra protection you could try wearing a helmet, shin guards and knee pads!

    Seriously though, I've heard before that if you don't wear a condom and don't ejaculate, some pre-cum can still come out, and you run the risk of getting your partner pregnant. I've heard conflicting opinions on this, tbh I get a bit confused myself. I'm clueless in some areas I'll admit. I've taken alot of gambles before, I suppose I'm lucky.

    ALWAYS WEAR A CONDOM. Durex extra safe - can't go wrong there. They've never ripped on me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    Talliesin wrote:
    It disturbs me to type this, but I think King of Kings might be right here.

    ah i'm touched.
    does this mean we're friends?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    Porkpie wrote:
    Seriously though, I've heard before that if you don't wear a condom and don't ejaculate, some pre-cum can still come out, and you run the risk of getting your partner pregnant. I've heard conflicting opinions on this
    It's pretty much established that pre-cum can cause pregnancy. There's a difference of opinion as to just what the risks are, in particular there have been progresses in understanding of both quantity and viability of the sperm in pre-cum.

    All very interesting if you find these things interesting, but mostly beside the point if you want to avoid pregnancy; all you really need to know then is that it can indeed happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condom
    snyper wrote:
    Safe enough...

    U can get a dose of the scratchies if she has them but they wont kill you.

    Take the advice given above by the previous posters it pretty much covers it.

    Herpes and genital warts while they will not kill you once you catch them you have them for life and condoms do not prevent a person from becoming infected.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Thaedydal wrote:
    Someone else <3 videojug too?! *hugs*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    thanks for the advise so far but cleary i know more about safe sex than other poeple.. two condoms!! i thought everyone knew they can make each other rip, so does everyone agree that sex with a condom without coming and checking the condom after would be very safe sex even nearly 100%??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    Condoms have a pregnancy rate of 2% a year with correct use and 10%-18% a year with typical use (varies considerably between studied populations). Coitus interruptus of 15-28%.

    Whether it combines in a simple multiplicative way is hard to say (I don't know of any studies about combining the two).

    Condoms effectiveness with STIs depends on the STI. E.g: correct use reduces HIV transmission is by 85% compared with unprotected intercourse, some other infections less so, or not at all.


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