Who will honestly miss the International Rules?

popebenny16

If I'm right, then this coming weekend should have been the slot for this years I-R series first match. I was expecting someone to have mentioned it in passing, but no-one seems to have spotted it. Will they return? Will the GAA stop acting like hypocrites when and if they do - "there's no compromise in international rules" -not until the Aussies stopped compromising there wasn't anyway.

I used to enjoy going to Croker for them, and the concept of the Mark always reminded me, every two years, why we should never adopt it for football as it could wreck the game. Mark, mark, point. GK kicks out. Mark. Mark. Point. Yawn.

So, bring it back? Or does the fact that no-one really seems to miss it mean never bother again?

_blank_

Wow, I never post on the GAA forum here, but here goes.

I know little or nothing about Gaelic Football, but a little bit about Aussie Rules, having lived in Sydney for a year, and followed the Swans. I caught the end of the season when they won the Grand Final - 2005, and most of the next one.

I loved the Aussie Rules, and it was great to see the Australian lads over here last year, especially Barry Hall. The man is a legend in Sydney, and an absolute monster on the pitch.

So yeah, I miss the series, but I don't think it should be resurrected until the Irish players go professional.

Was there any kind of prizemoney for the players in previous years?

If there was a big enough reward for the players, the Aussies might take it a bit more seriously, because they didn't seem to send their All Australians, more of a second string team.

Nalced_irl

DesF wrote:

Wow, I never post on the GAA forum here, but here goes.

I know little or nothing about Gaelic Football, but a little bit about Aussie Rules, having lived in Sydney for a year, and followed the Swans. I caught the end of the season when they won the Grand Final - 2005, and most of the next one.

I loved the Aussie Rules, and it was great to see the Australian lads over here last year, especially Barry Hall. The man is a legend in Sydney, and an absolute monster on the pitch.

So yeah, I miss the series, but I don't think it should be resurrected until the Irish players go professional.

Was there any kind of prizemoney for the players in previous years?

If there was a big enough reward for the players, the Aussies might take it a bit more seriously, because they didn't seem to send their All Australians, more of a second string team.

To be honest, i dont really care either way. Was enjoyable enough to watch but wasnt really a game. Was just 6 foot 7 inch Aussies who are about 5 feet wide (like Barry Hall, agree he is a legend!) against little Irish guys in comparison who get the sh*t kicked out of them. We only really stood a chance while the Aussies were inexperienced with the ball, goalkeepers etc. After they got the hang of it, they were always gonna be way to strong. Agree that it would be an idea to leave it until if/when GAA turns pro, which i doubt will happen. The mark system, i would absolutely hate to see it brought into GAA. It works better in Aussie Rules as firstly, passes arent as accurate with the balls shape so they arent just marks galore and also the bigger pitch means they tend to go for longer passes so more chance of interceptions etc.

I caught the latter stages of last years championship actually. Only went to one game which was Melbourne against the Western Bulldogs. Didnt find the game nearly as entertaining as most other sports tbh, however it was a bit of a non event of a game as the Bulldogs walked it. Was in Richmonds stadium (i think) for the GF, i think it was Richmond..very close to the MCG? Was a great day, bigscreen on the pitch, blazing sunshine and drink flowing. Was shouting for the Swans obviously with Hall and Keneely there. That game was far more entertaining in fairness.

jackbhoy

No is the short answer.

This type of bastardised game does nothing for either code and just bred contempt between the 2 sets of players and fans. The whole furore about Aussies violence and Sean Boylans comments last year were a joke, I was at the test and for the most part the Irish lads started the fights and then when Aussies fought back and beat them up they whinged to the ref and media about it.
On the other hand you have one or two cowardly Aussies like C Johnson who just used it as a playground to prove his neanderthal masculinity by beating up people half his size.

Marse

Yes is my short answer. Why?
Anything that fills some of the void from the Championship ending in September to the Cups starting in January is good for me.
Even if it usually degenerates into a game of bash the little Paddy.

Kojak

Marse wrote:

Yes is my short answer. Why?
Anything that fills some of the void from the Championship ending in September to the Cups starting in January is good for me.

Ah, what about the club championships. In their own way, they can give the best games of them all.

As for the I/R, I couldn't give a damn if it was never played again. It was a flawed concept so that the GAA could get some extra money to pay-off the re-development of Croker. With the soccer and rugby there for the time-being, I think that the I/R will take a back-seat.

RuggieBear

yep.

Now don't hate me when i say this but:

i thought the compromise rules is a better game than both GAA and Aussie rules

patmac

RuggieBear wrote:

yep.

Now don't hate me when i say this but:

i thought the compromise rules is a better game than both GAA and Aussie rules

Lol Ruggie stick to the Rugby Forum, although I used to look forward to it and the potential for a good game was there but it has been farcical the last number of years, and good riddance to it.

Marse

Kojak wrote:

Ah, what about the club championships. In their own way, they can give the best games of them all.

As for the I/R, I couldn't give a damn if it was never played again. It was a flawed concept so that the GAA could get some extra money to pay-off the re-development of Croker. With the soccer and rugby there for the time-being, I think that the I/R will take a back-seat.

I'm not dismissing the club championship at all. But it’s a long time since my club has provided me with a vested interest in that.
For me when watching a game it matters more when you have at least an association with one of the teams.

Yavvy

I will miss it. I know the gap between Professionalism and amateurism was widening but I still think it was a great sport and worthy of redemption. Altho until measures to protect the poor harmless Irish footballers from Australian savages is in place its a good idea to suspend the games.

Flukey

There was nothing wrong with the International Rules (apart from the ridiculous mark rule) when the rules were kept to.

Nalced_irl

Flukey wrote:

There was nothing wrong with the International Rules (apart from the ridiculous mark rule) when the rules were kept to.

Exactly, once everyone went by the rules, it was fine. Unfortunately over the last few years the rules went out the door. They would need to find a way to make sending off's etc have more impact on the player. As it stands, no-one on either side cares about being sent off as it has absolutely no impact. How about a sending off means a 500,000euro fine....Well, 100,000 for the GAA players as were not paid

bobzi

I for one hope they dont bring it back. It was embarrassing watching the Irish lads getting a hiding of those Aussies.

I dont watch much GAA but its much more entertaining than Aussie Rules which is the worst sport I've ever had the misfortune of wathcing

Nalced_irl

bobzi wrote:

I for one hope they dont bring it back. It was embarrassing watching the Irish lads getting a hiding of those Aussies.

I dont watch much GAA but its much more entertaining than Aussie Rules which is the worst sport I've ever had the misfortune of wathcing

In fairness, you can get some great Aussie Rules games, but a bad game can be the worst sporting memory you will ever hold! The final last year was a brilliant game i thought but the match i went to a few weeks before it was terrible. With two well matched teams it can be very entertaining tho.

bobzi

Nalced_irl wrote:

In fairness, you can get some great Aussie Rules games, but a bad game can be the worst sporting memory you will ever hold! The final last year was a brilliant game i thought but the match i went to a few weeks before it was terrible. With two well matched teams it can be very entertaining tho.

I went to a game in the MCG recently which was fairly close but it was still awful to watch. Theres just so little skill in the game - I cant think of any other sport where after having only played 9 times you could be playing at the highest level (Martin Clarke off Collingwood)

OhNoYouDidn't

I miss it. Any sport that sees Graham Geraghty getting a badly injured tase of his own medicine is ok with me.

It shattered the myth of the big tough Gaelic Footballer and showed the inherent hypocricy the GAA have towords violence, as in its only to be condemned when they come accross someone better at it then them. For that alone I think it was a worthy excercise.

K-9

bobzi wrote:

I for one hope they dont bring it back. It was embarrassing watching the Irish lads getting a hiding of those Aussies.

I dont watch much GAA but its much more entertaining than Aussie Rules which is the worst sport I've ever had the misfortune of wathcing

Strangely, 2 years ago everybody was saying it was a non-event because Ireland where on top for a couple of years. First game in Galway last year was ok. If a player get sent off they need to bear the consequences, in their own game, which wasn't happening.

Overall, I think it's worth keeping, if the rules are tightened up. Gives the players an international outlet and some recognition bar the All Stars.

And Ruggie, yes we do hate you! :rolleyes: Maybe an Australia V. Ireland Rugby game? Nah, by the looks of it that's cancelled as well!

popebenny16

bobzi wrote:

I cant think of any other sport where after having only played 9 times you could be playing at the highest level (Martin Clarke off Collingwood)

How about a game where you can be handing out cones on a training ground one day and managing a team at the highest level the next?

popebenny16

OhNoYouDidn't wrote:

I miss it. Any sport that sees Graham Geraghty getting a badly injured tase of his own medicine is ok with me.

It shattered the myth of the big tough Gaelic Footballer and showed the inherent hypocricy the GAA have towords violence, as in its only to be condemned when they come accross someone better at it then them. For that alone I think it was a worthy excercise.

I was surprised the first sentiment took so long to emerge on this thread lol. As for the second one, I agree totally, which is why I referenced the GAA's own advert for the games.

okarm26

[Originally Posted by bobzi]
I dont watch much GAA but its much more entertaining than Aussie Rules which is the worst sport I've ever had the misfortune of wathcing.

If you dont even watch GAA and hate Aussie Rules then whats the point you commenting?

If anyone watched last weeks Prelim final between Collingwood and Geelong then you watched one of the best games of the year .Even if you dont like AFL you couldn't but not have enjoyed that.

Like all sports there's gonna be crap games and decent games. Thats why we watch them ,hoping for a good game.

Follow GAA and AFL a lot and been to both compromise games last time around ,as a game itself I think its pretty boring to watch + 80% of the crowd havent a clue of the rules.

The way the game is played in Australia now pretty much cancels out our advantage with the round ball as its all about running with the ball with constant support beside you , which again goes against Irish players as we're still lacking a bit in fitness when it comes to AFL .

Its back next year though , over in Oz this time. Could be a messy one unless the sort out some sort of red card system.

DublinDes

In the beginning their was a novelty factor about it, but now I it's rubbish, we are better off without it.

TheDeficit

Not me, the whole thing was a joke. Paul Galvin said that the Aussies never showed us respect and treated it as a game that they could have a go at a bunch of amateurs.