Some 100nl Hands from Tonight

dvdfan

Havent posted in a while so trying to get back in the habit:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button PHNX666 ($111.72)
SB OLIVIA21 ($100.50)
BB Hero ($117.60)
UTG wickywickywild ($94.00)
UTG+1 ppaoss ($106.00)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with Kc Ks
3 folds, OLIVIA21 raises to 3.00, Hero raises to 10.50, OLIVIA21 calls 8.00.

Flop (23.00) Ac 7h 3c
OLIVIA21 checks, Hero checks.

Turn (23.00) 8d
OLIVIA21 checks, Hero checks.

River (23.00) 6d
OLIVIA21 bets 23.00, Hero??

Villain is 25/15/3.5 over 1.8k hands went to SD 18% Won at SD 44%
Sometimes ill bet the turn here after 2 checks, is this an easy call?

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Hand 2:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button MrW00DY ($88.19)
SB AstaJalUsta ($173.01)
BB Pubeskopf ($69.00)
UTG camillasen ($50.00)
UTG+1 Hero ($99.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 2s As
1 fold, Hero raises to 3.50, MrW00DY calls 3.50, 1 fold, Pubeskopf calls 2.50.

Flop (11.00) Ks 9d Ah
Pubeskopf checks, Hero checks, MrW00DY bets 5.00, 1 fold, Hero calls 5.00.

Turn (21.00) 7s
Hero checks, MrW00DY bets 6.00, Hero raises to 24.00, MrW00DY moves all-in for 73.69, Hero calls 55.69.

Villain is 48/10/3.5 over 200 hands, went to SD 25%, won at SD 42%

Seems a bad player, table has been tight other than villain and a few of my raises were getting folded around, ive a combo draw i have 2 options keep the pot small and take the good odds to hit my nut flush but if i hit the flush ive less chance of getting paid off in a small pot. Hows my line, should i have just called here on the turn.

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Hand 3:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button PokerJussi ($97.50)
SB Pubeskopf ($49.50)
BB InsideEdge ($101.40)
UTG Hero ($208.80)
UTG+1 MrW00DY ($104.88)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ts Tc
Hero raises to 3.50, 1 fold, PokerJussi calls 3.50, 2 folds.

Flop (8.50) 8s 5d 6h
Hero bets 7.50, PokerJussi calls 7.50.

Turn (23.50) 8c
Hero checks, PokerJussi bets 17.00, Hero calls 17.00.

River (57.50) Kc
Hero checks, PokerJussi bets 44.00, 1 fold

Villain is 21/15/4.5 over 600 hands went to SD 28% won at SD 60%

Is the turn call here poor, i was doubting hes strength due to hes agression of 4.5, i think if im checking this turn i shoud be check/folding especially if im going to fold to the 3rd barrell on the river. Should i lead here or any other comments?

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Hand 4:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button InsideEdge ($100.00)
SB Hero ($99.00)
BB MrW00DY ($118.88)
UTG AstaJalUsta ($201.91)
UTG+1 Pubeskopf ($50.50)

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Th Kc
2 folds, InsideEdge raises to 4.00, Hero raises to 14.50, 1 fold, InsideEdge calls 11.00.

Flop (31.00) 3h Ks 8d
Hero bets 23.00, InsideEdge calls 23.00.

Turn (77.00) 6h
Hero checks, InsideEdge moves all-in for 62.00, Hero

Villain is 21/17/2.61 more or less the same as me, Went to SD 26% Won at SD 68% over 1.5k, seems a solid TAG.
Ive been 3betting a bit more than normal as hes been aggressive from late position and i think hes sick of me at this stage, hes been folding PF or on the flop a couple of times so hes obviously 3betting light too so im not sure if hes making a stand or not. Comments??

RoadSweeper

Hand 1

I usually bet the turn here.
Why didnt you bet the flop?

I think you have to call here as you hand is very under represented and looks like you just tried a Re-steal.

Hand 2.

I'm not sure, i probally just call the turn, maybe because its easier and not nessicarly the best play. :rolleyes:

I would expect to see an other ace here alot and chances are your out kicked. Did you want a call? In doing this did you feel you had much fold equity considering his 25% (low enough for a 48 vpip player?) went to showdown?


Hand 3


I dont think there is too much wrong with the hand. What were you thinking when checking the turn? Did you expect him to bet?

I may fire two barrells and check call a moderate non dangerous river, but the way the hand has panned out, i call the turn and CF the river too.


Hand 4


I do find these hard to comment on tbh as you really need to be the players involved in the pre hand antics as you have the best judgment yourself.

I probally fold given the info tbh.

cardshark202

1: Def fold the river. When someone makes a full psb there they are rarely bluffing
2: I much prefer c/c on the turn there. I don't see the value of turning your hand into a semi-bluff vs an aggressive donkish player
3: I would just c/f turn, a player like that is never valuebetting a worse hand, and they are rarely bluffing
4: I'm not folding now given history. I think this is a clear call even though you will be beaten here a fair amount.

phantom_lord

1. bet the turn, call now.
2. i'd just call the 6.
3. normally i'd just bet it.

NeoSlicerZ

#1 I bet the flop/turn. I think I can find a call, though it's possible he had a small pair that's hit a set, as played it stinks of weakness to me.
#2 I would just flat call, I've found fold equity is pretty non existant with bad players + mediocre holdings.
#3 I'd bet/fold to a raise and probably c/c a teeny bet on the river. As played I think you got rivered.
#4 Can't really comment.... my inner nit tells me to fold, my inner donkey historian says a call is ok.

Macspower

good to have you back DVD.

1) Your right not to be the flop here... ever.... I would however be the turn... I would normally call a river bet ehre with an underrepped hand but I don't like the size fo the bet.... I'd prob call and expect to be behind

2) you need FE to make your move profitable and if he calls you ... well you have loads of outs.... these donks are sometimes going to call you with any part fo the board so I C/C and he'll still prob pay you if you hit.... I like your line against a better player

3) there are 2 reasons here to check the turn... forst is because you think you are behind .... in this case fold.... the other is to induce a bet from a weaker hand/bluff... in this case plan achieved..... not sure which it is though? when you checked the turn did u have a plan?

4) go with your gut.... given history I prob see it out... but make notes on the outcome because you'll be sure he'll remember it for again...

Good to have you back

Mr.Plough

a little cloudy right now but..

1 - callcallcall

2 - just call the turn bet. as played fold to turn shove

3 - i c/f turn most of the time, if i think hes capable of floating i peel one off sometimes. definitely c/f river.

4 - read dependant but i think im calling here.

phantom_lord

cardshark202 wrote:

3: I would just c/f turn, a player like that is never valuebetting a worse hand, and they are rarely bluffing

why do u say that reggie? he's pretty aggressive?

cardshark202

Well for him to be bluffing here, you have to give him credit for a float a fair % of the time imo. And since its 100NL, I wouldn't. And there is not much in his range that he can vb here that we beat.

ianmc38

1. I'd call. Your hand is underrepped enough though I expect to be beaten a ton.
2. I really hate your line here. Check raising the turn is really bad as his line is really strong and he can alsmot certainly beat your top pair crap kicker. I'd c/c and open shove a spade river.
3. Just check fold the turn
4. No way I'm folding now.

Van Dice

1 I call. I think check/bet/check, check/check/call, or check/check/bet are all fine to take

2 I don't like. Even though he's made weak bets on the flop and turn, we are way ahead or behind but have lots of outs. You don't want him to fold hands you're ahead of, and he won't fold hands you're behind to. What I'm trying to say is that you have no FE v hands you would like to have FE against. With your raise, three things can happen;
a) he shoves. Really bad for us cos now we make a dodgy call with poor equity
b) he folds. Not as good as it seems cos this guy is only folding worse hands than ours anyway.
c) he calls. Not a great spot unless a spade hits.

Take the odds he offered and see what the river brings. I think you will definitely get paid if you hit a flush, maybe not a full stack, but you can't have everything!

3 I don't like check-calling the turn. Because you're going to face an uncallable river bet a huge % of the time. As said, I suppose check-folding is ok, even though it seems very weak. If turn checks through assume you have the best hand

4 How can anyone have 68% W$SD???? tbh I think 3-betting this hand is terrible. You have really bad reverse implied odds, and you said you had been 3-betting him a lot anyway. That usually means it's time to tighten up and wait for your big pairs. As played you have to call, but I don't like how you've got yourself into a position where you have to make this call for stacks.

semibluff

hand one, yes bet turn. call river as played, he coulda caught up due to lack of turn bet but u should be good

hand two. i dont like the pre raise. dont like the flopo call, your hand may only have bluff value now if facing stronger ace. the flushdraw on the turn gives you outs, take em and try and catch up. you dont need to commit so much to the pot with a weak holding like this, on each street - considering the re-re raise you must be behind to a strong ace atleast

hand three - if you are going to call his bet on the turn, then perhaps make it yourself. then a re-raise would let you know his strength, but as played correct fold imo

hand four. its a shame then when he eventually is taking a stand your on such a marginal holding. but as you said yourself, he is a solid Tag, so i think you should fold here

dvdfan

dvdfan wrote:

Havent posted in a while so trying to get back in the habit:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button PHNX666 ($111.72)
SB OLIVIA21 ($100.50)
BB Hero ($117.60)
UTG wickywickywild ($94.00)
UTG+1 ppaoss ($106.00)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with Kc Ks
3 folds, OLIVIA21 raises to 3.00, Hero raises to 10.50, OLIVIA21 calls 8.00.

Flop (23.00) Ac 7h 3c
OLIVIA21 checks, Hero checks.

Turn (23.00) 8d
OLIVIA21 checks, Hero checks.

River (23.00) 6d
OLIVIA21 bets 23.00, Hero??

Villain is 25/15/3.5 over 1.8k hands went to SD 18% Won at SD 44%
Sometimes ill bet the turn here after 2 checks, is this an easy call?

The psb on the river didnt make sense as played, the only hand i could think of was QQ-JJ that didnt want a call from a weak ace or AT-AJ that didnt want to let the pot get out of control, i was surprised to see AA turned over but i dont think we see a strong Ace played like this after a 3bet PF, still a bit unsure wheter a call is good or not

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Hand 2:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button MrW00DY ($88.19)
SB AstaJalUsta ($173.01)
BB Pubeskopf ($69.00)
UTG camillasen ($50.00)
UTG+1 Hero ($99.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 2s As
1 fold, Hero raises to 3.50, MrW00DY calls 3.50, 1 fold, Pubeskopf calls 2.50.

Flop (11.00) Ks 9d Ah
Pubeskopf checks, Hero checks, MrW00DY bets 5.00, 1 fold, Hero calls 5.00.

Turn (21.00) 7s
Hero checks, MrW00DY bets 6.00, Hero raises to 24.00, MrW00DY moves all-in for 73.69, Hero calls 55.69.

Villain is 48/10/3.5 over 200 hands, went to SD 25%, won at SD 42%

Seems a bad player, table has been tight other than villain and a few of my raises were getting folded around, ive a combo draw i have 2 options keep the pot small and take the good odds to hit my nut flush but if i hit the flush ive less chance of getting paid off in a small pot. Hows my line, should i have just called here on the turn.

I like to play my combo draws very aggressive and im happy to get all in with them as it boosts my aggression and helps me get paid of when i do have a big hand but it looks like a resounding bad play here and i think Van Dices reasons why seem spot on but would i not fold out alot of better aces up to AT against a player who only sees 25% of showdowns and i dont think c/calling and leading turn for less than Half pot screams of strength, Although what Mac said is probably right that against a better player capable of folding weak Aces here it might be a better line.

He had A7 btw and had he not have hit his 7 on the turn im pretty sure he would have folded in that spot given hes Went to SD stat over a 200 sample

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Hand 3:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button PokerJussi ($97.50)
SB Pubeskopf ($49.50)
BB InsideEdge ($101.40)
UTG Hero ($208.80)
UTG+1 MrW00DY ($104.88)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ts Tc
Hero raises to 3.50, 1 fold, PokerJussi calls 3.50, 2 folds.

Flop (8.50) 8s 5d 6h
Hero bets 7.50, PokerJussi calls 7.50.

Turn (23.50) 8c
Hero checks, PokerJussi bets 17.00, Hero calls 17.00.

River (57.50) Kc
Hero checks, PokerJussi bets 44.00, 1 fold

Villain is 21/15/4.5 over 600 hands went to SD 28% won at SD 60%

Is the turn call here poor, i was doubting hes strength due to hes agression of 4.5, i think if im checking this turn i shoud be check/folding especially if im going to fold to the 3rd barrell on the river. Should i lead here or any other comments?

Well as i kind of hinted i dont think check/calling is good here because i planed to fold to the 3rd barell on the river. I dont think i should call this turn against these types of players, the reason i did was because of hes aggression i taught he might be capable of a double barrell although i had no notes to suggest and i taught i might get a check on the river but i dont think he checks the river enough to make this profotable and it screams of a set to me

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Hand 4:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button InsideEdge ($100.00)
SB Hero ($99.00)
BB MrW00DY ($118.88)
UTG AstaJalUsta ($201.91)
UTG+1 Pubeskopf ($50.50)

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Th Kc
2 folds, InsideEdge raises to 4.00, Hero raises to 14.50, 1 fold, InsideEdge calls 11.00.

Flop (31.00) 3h Ks 8d
Hero bets 23.00, InsideEdge calls 23.00.

Turn (77.00) 6h
Hero checks, InsideEdge moves all-in for 62.00, Hero

Villain is 21/17/2.61 more or less the same as me, Went to SD 26% Won at SD 68% over 1.5k, seems a solid TAG.
Ive been 3betting a bit more than normal as hes been aggressive from late position and i think hes sick of me at this stage, hes been folding PF or on the flop a couple of times so hes obviously 3betting light too so im not sure if hes making a stand or not. Comments??

I dont 3bet light too often to be honest mostly because im not that great at it but i will do it alot against button stealers with high att steal % that i know are raising light, i agree that i have reversed implied odds here but as i said he had been 3betting light from the button and folding alot so i wasnt worried too much about hitting, my plan was to take it down preflop and if not bet the flop and give up unimproved to aggression.

Trouble is i figured he was getting sick of it and if i came up against any aggression this time i would have tightened my 3betting range but as long as they keep trying to steal light and keep folding ill keep 3betting light as its going to be profitable. As played i did hit but i had a feeling he was making a stand and he figured i was 3betting light and missed. I called and he showed AhJh and didnt improve:)


Thanks for the replies lads. Results and comments in red above

semibluff

the call is fine in hand 1, a strong ace - ak < would bet the turn, just be glad u didnt get stacked

cardshark202

Really don't think the call in hand one is fine. Betsizing means you are beat here at least 90% of the time. And I was right.

semibluff

cardshark202 wrote:

And I was right.

lol

so you were!!

dvdfan

Hey Macspower,

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