The Tree of Life and DNA

dj_quinn

Who gave the ancients knowledge about the structure of the DNA molecule and why was it revered as the tree of life? These images are of, #1. The DNA molecule. #2 The Mesopetamian tree of life, 3. The Olmec Indians of mesoameica's tree of life. You be the judge.

hiorta

Very interesting, DJ.
It is usually assumed that todays 'us' is at some kind of apex of human development.

I came across this - and others - some time ago.
How accurate, I do not know.

(I don't know how to post the file itself from one place to another - dragging and dropping did not work.)

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Our History

Civilizations on this Earth go back 500 million years. The planet is a star seed to which external life forms have come from all over, combined with each other, generated new life forms, and left. Each of the life forms they created has gone through five levels of consciousness. Right now we are on the second of the five.

Almost all the evidence from past advanced civilizations has been put out of context or ignored. For instance, we have a connection with the star Sirius about which little is known but which is essential to understanding our present plight. Robert Temple's book "The Sirius Mystery", presents the following: There is a tribe near Timbuktu in Africa called the Dogon. For more than 700 years this group has had information that presumably it cannot have-information our scientists have had for only the last twenty years or so, and it took sending satellites into space to get that.

The Dogon know about the star Sirius in detail. Sirius is the brightest star in our sky, situated to the left and straight down from the belt of Orion. The Dogons said that there was another tiny star rotating around Sirius and made of the heaviest matter in the universe. This star completed its rotation once every fifty years. It was a very old star. Because scientists couldn't see this star through our telescopes, ethnographers thought it was just Dogon mythology. In I970 a telescope launched into space found a white dwarf star rotating around Sirius. Like the one in Dogon "myth," it is a very old star. One cubic inch of it is estimated to weigh 2,000 pounds. The orbit of the star was calculated to be 50.1 years. This star was named Sirius B and the original Sirius renamed Sirius A.

When a team of scientists visited the Dogon tribe to find out how they knew about this, the elders said that a flying saucer landed. Beings emerged and made a large hole in the ground which they filled with water. The occupants, who looked like dolphins, jumped into the lake they had made, then came up to shore, and talked to the Dogon people. They told them that they were from Sirius and related many Sirian stories.

The Dogons had an even more incredible bit of information. They had a visual image of the movement of Sirius A and Sirius B from Earth for the time period between 1912 and 1990, culminating in an exact image of where these stars would be at this time. They also had a great deal of information about the planets in our solar system, including various moons.


:: Our Creators ::

"On their planet Nibiru, the Anunnaki/Nefilim were facing a situation we on Earth may also soon face: ecological deterioration was making life increasingly impossible. There was a need to protect their dwindling atmosphere, and the only solution seemed to be to suspend gold particles above it, as a shield."

So they came here to mine gold. After 200,000 years or so of enforced labor the miners rebelled and decided to create a subservient race - us-- to mine the gold for them. It is notable that in Southern Africa in the oldest known gold mines, archaeologists have found the bones of Homo Sapiens and artifacts that go back to at least 50,000 B.C. They believe gold mining in Africa goes back much further than that. Sitchin asserts that the Nefilim created us about 300,000 years ago, but Thoth is very exact. Thoth says we were created exactly 200,209 years ago (from 1994).

Zecharia Sitchin

Sitchin theorizes that the Nefilim created us through genetic experiments, but according to Thoth the Nefilim couldn't do that alone. They had to have help from outside the Solar System. That external help came from a familiar source. The Sirians joined with the Nefilim to create us. They first landed in the ocean and emerged as half-men and half-fish. They went underwater initially to make contact with the dolphins, who are on a similar consciousness level to them. At one point, according to Thoth, the Sirians decided to leave, but they wanted to leave a certain level of consciousness behind. Seven of these beings dropped their bodies and formed spheres of consciousness. They merged into the seed of life and created an ovum. When seven beings link together geometrically in this way to form the seed of life, a flame appears, four feet tall and of bluish-white light. It is cool but looks like a flame. This was then set in the "Halls of Amenti."

The Halls of Amenti are a very ancient place, built more than 5 1/2 million years ago. No one knows how old the Halls of Amenti really are or who erected them, because of that event 5 1/2 million years ago that broke the Akashic records of the planet. Remember-even though history on the planet goes back 500 million years, we have access only to the last 5 1/2 million years. The Halls of Amenti are actually a dimensional warp in space resembling a womb. There is only one way in, but once you get there it is like being in infinite space. Such a warp sits always one dimensional overtone higher than the vibrational level of the Earth. It is located usually 440,000 miles out in space, but during the era of Atlantis it was on the surface of the Earth. Now it is 1,000 miles inside the Earth.

[All answers to all our questions concerning these subjects lie right beneath our feet]


Simultaneous preparation for this creation or trans-semination was being made on Sirius B, or, more precisely, the third planet out from Sirius B. Sixteen males and sixteen females who comprised a married family there traveled to Earth from Sirius B and went directly to the flame in the Halls of Amenti. They lay down and merged with the flame. Their conception period here was 2,000 years. These two separate races were involved in our creation- one from Nibiru and one from Sirius.


According to Sitchin's interpretation of the Sumerian texts in "The 12th Planet", after the Nefilim created us to work in the gold mines in Africa, some of us were brought to Mesopotamia to help in the gardens in E.DIN. The "gods" loved us because, after all, we were made in their own image. But in the garden in E.DIN where the Nefilim had their orchards we were told not to eat the fruit of a certain tree called the tree of knowledge.

We disobeyed.

Eating this fruit and gaining its "knowledge" was significant because it gave us the ability to reproduce sexually. Up until this point we were hybrids, a cross between two different species, and like all hybrids we were incapable of reproduction. Sitchin interprets the Sumerian texts as saying we are a cross between the Nefilim and Homo erectus, the predecessor of Homo sapiens. It is through Thoth that we get the additional information about the role of the beings from Sirius.

Not surprisingly, the Nefilim did not want us reproducing. They wanted to maintain control of their own experiment. The knowledge we gained from eating the fruit was not scientific as such- it was the knowledge of how to procreate, how to turn ourselves from sterile hybrids into a new species fully capable of reproducing. The Nefilim were angry when we gained the ability to reproduce, and they made us leave the garden. According to scholars of ancient texts, the Sumerian records precede the Biblical records, and the Biblical creation stories seem to be just a summary of older Sumerian texts.

Although we had to leave their garden, the Nefilim allowed us to grow food on our own. We went to the mountainous area east of the gardens in Mesopotamia. According to Thoth, we remained there for a long time. But then there was a big shift in consciousness and another pole shift, and that continent sank. Many of the survivors went to Africa, but the most evolved went to Lemuria, a land which rose above water when the other continent sank.

http://www.worldgain.com/skew/metaphysics/melchizedek/drunfris.html

Gillo

DJ_quinn I definitely think you are reading too much into those pictures the Mesopetamian tree of life, looks like it may be related to the Kaballah's Tree of Life or Knowledge (sorry I can't remember what it was called, and it'll take a few hours looking through numerous books to find the right name - what more could I be doing on my day off!!).

As for hiorta, personally I think you are way off the mark there, but obviously everyone has a right to their opinion. Apart from the Sirius Mystery, is there much evidence to support what you are saying?

hiorta

Hi Gillo.
I have no opinion on that stuff, just that it, too related to the mists and myths of origin, in keeping with the other post.

Whatever myth we may choose, if any, is certainly bound to be exaggagerated, invented even, in many respects.

Talliesin

Even your picture of the Mesopotamian Tree of Life doesn't look helical. If the example you've found doesn't match your hypothesis, it's a bit of a stretch to expect us to find one.

So far you're argument comes down to "these two things look completely different; obviously they are connected".

Why not at least go for something helical in mysticism (e.g. the path of the kundalini?) You'd still have to argue that there wasn't another perfectly good reason for the helix (it's not like DNA is the first helix ever found - they exist plenty in both nature and manufactured items) but it'd be a start.

Agree with gillo that it's interesting how there are surface similarities between the Mesopotamian Tree of Life and the QBL Tree of Life.

Nevyn

/me is once again boggled why this is in the parrots normal forum.

6th

Talliesin wrote:

Even your picture of the Mesopotamian Tree of Life doesn't look helical. If the example you've found doesn't match your hypothesis, it's a bit of a stretch to expect us to find one.

So far you're argument comes down to "these two things look completely different; obviously they are connected".

Have to agree, I'm not seeing it.

6th

Thaedydal wrote:

/me is once again boggled why this is in the parrots normal forum.

Now that IS a mystery.

monkeyfudge

Should be in the Stargate forum.

But I'm the of the same opinion as Talliesin. The Mesopetamian looks nothing like DNA and the Olmec tree has snakes wrapped around it like that as it's aesthetically pleasing.

Talliesin

Thaedydal wrote:

/me is once again boggled why this is in the parrots normal forum.

Why's it in any forum? That DNA looks nothing like the mesopotamian tree of life isn't really all that remarkable.

monkeyfudge wrote:

the Olmec tree has snakes wrapped around it like that as it's aesthetically pleasing.

And because snakes wrap around in a helical fashion when they mate.

Snakes in helix -> DNA does not make as much sense to me as snakes in helix -> that's what snakes do!

Sapien

gillo wrote:

looks like it may be related to the Kaballah's Tree of Life or Knowledge (sorry I can't remember what it was called, and it'll take a few hours looking through numerous books to find the right name - what more could I be doing on my day off!!).

Otz ha Chayyim (עץ החיים). Tree of Life.

beans

I have read accounts of the Mes. Tree of Life and Cannabis Sativa claiming them to be one and the same. Certainly bears more of a similarity to that than to a double-helix.

The Dogon thing, now there's a good paranormal puzzle. Their supposed knowledge of a star-system only discovered in the latter quater of the last century by our telescopes always made me think.

stevenmu

Thaedydal wrote:

/me is once again boggled why this is in the parrots normal forum.

/me is once again boggled why people who think a thread should be moved don't pm me or report the post



Anyway, good thread. My first thought was to move it to the Mysticism forum, but I can't find that.

Spirituality forum ?

Gillo

I was half thinking Conspiracy Theories, myself.

On a different it's been a couple of week's, will someone start a new Most Haunted thread:rolleyes: