Newbie Bike Questions

Zascar

Since the schools have some back the traffic is mental and I'm spending up to an hour in the car for a 15 minute journey. I'm thinking of changing to two wheels. I've always liked bikes but never had any real experience on them, but always intended to buy one one day. I'm thinking of taking the plunge but have no idea where to start, so a few questions:

I've never properly wridden a bike on the roads. Do I need 'lessons' first or do most people just jump on and figure it out?
Are you limited on the engine size of your first bike?
Is passing the test difficult?
What does insurance typically cost (I'm 27)
Where is the best place to look for 2nd hand bikes?

For my first bike I'd like to keep costs as low as possible - its only for commuting after all. I don't mind getting something a bit older. Can anyone give me some starter advice for what I should be after? Not exactly sure what type of bike I'm after. I've always liked the Suzuki Bandit but that would be too much I'm sure, somehting similar but smaller. Should i be after more 125-250cc? I drive a Honda Civic Type R at the moment.

Sorry for such gneral questions, any helpful advice appreciated.
Thanks

seamus

Zascar wrote:

I've never properly wridden a bike on the roads. Do I need 'lessons' first or do most people just jump on and figure it out?

Most people just jump on and figure it out, or get a mate to show them the basics. But PLEASE don't
I would strongly advise getting some lessons from a proper instructor before even looking at the road. For your own safety first and foremost. Driving a bike is not like driving a two-wheeled car. It's an entirely different way of approaching roadcraft.

Are you limited on the engine size of your first bike?

Yes, there are limits on the class A licence. It's not engine size that matters, but power output. I think there's a sticky with this info. You're limited while you're on a provisional and for two years after passing your test.

Is passing the test difficult?

Not if you have been well instructed

What does insurance typically cost (I'm 27)

Depends on the bike, rider, area - much like cars. I'd be surprised if you get a TPO quote for less than €1K

Where is the best place to look for 2nd hand bikes?

Go to a dealer for your first bike. Many second handers have been rallied and destroyed. At least with a dealer they'll usually have fixed it up and will guarantee it for six months or so.

Dara Robinson

seamus has already given you a lot of info there but I thought I'd throw my 2cent in

Zascar wrote:

I've never properly wridden a bike on the roads. Do I need 'lessons' first or do most people just jump on and figure it out?

Yes, yes and YES 100 times over. Ring these guys http://www.msa-ireland.com/ and if you complete their AON exam you could get upto 25% off your insurance. Helped me a lot before I got my full licence.

Zascar wrote:

Are you limited on the engine size of your first bike?

On the engine size thing, as seamus said no, its limited to output but I would recommend that you get a custom (chopper) style for your first bike. They are comfortable and they are not fast but they tend to be larger and better built than other 125cc bikes, safer as a starter bike.

Zascar wrote:

Is passing the test difficult?

http://www.msa-ireland.com/ have a very good success rate. I'd recommend them over ISM

Zascar wrote:

Where is the best place to look for 2nd hand bikes?

Money is always an issue, but if you can buy from a dealer great. Otherwise got to a motorbike garage and see if they will give you like a 3 or 6 month guarantee. I'd learn to change the oil, brakes, spark plugs and other minor things like that to 1) cut down on expenses and 2) you know its being done right. Also change your oil regularly (the key to a well maintained bike, couriers change it once a week for example but you wont be doing their mileage)
If not, I have bought some good bikes privately you just have to keep your eyes open and bring someone who knows bikes with you until you do.