Sony Bravia Model No Question

ChippingSodbury

Hi,
Anyone know the difference between a KDL-32D3000E and a KDL-32D3000U?

Thanks.

Dont be at yourself

At a guess, Europe and US?

ChippingSodbury

Not so sure. The Sony.co.uk website lists the KDL-32D3000U while Komplett.ie list the KDL-32D3000E

8T8

I was about to buy the same TV but went for the 40" 40D3000U version as it was surprisingly cheaper at the local Sony centre anyway I looked into it and could not find any difference as NekkidBibleMan points out and what I also think is that it is for Europe as if you search for that model number it will come up on European sites.

Whereas the U model only shows up on UK sites might have something to do with freeview being advertised with the product Freeview being UK DVB-T service.

{It's a great TV tweaking options galore }

Oshbosh

KDL-32D3000 got a best buy from which.co.uk this month, not sure what the E represents but probably the same telly, their review for KDL-42D3000E is out in a few weeks.

It seems Panasonic and Sony are the best according to which.co.uk with Panasonic leading the way with 11 out of 15 best buys this month out of 70 tested sets.

The only thing with the Panasonics is that while they do have 1080p output, they do not have 'fullHD' 1920x1080 screen resolution and do not refresh at 24 frames per second. Hence not fully compatible with high definition DVD players. The Sony ones are fully compatible although also have the lower 1366 x 768 resolution.

The Panasonics don't have PC digital inputs either which seems strange, does this mean you can't connect your PC, sounds like it ?

I kind of like the Panasonics but would worry that in a few years they would not be compatible with next gen DVD players, would this be correct ?

cheers

Osh

8T8

1080p output is not for everyone for instance if you are particularly close to the screen then it does make that much of a difference over 720p.

HD-DVD/Blu-ray both output just fine at 720p even though the content is encoded at 1080p.

The 24fps is for removing judder or jerkiness in movies some notice it some don't it really depends on the person from what I've read on the topic but if your a movie buff and going all out with 1080p displays then it is something you should probably have (player must support it too though not just TV).

As for PC inputs I don't know the model you are referring to but VGA inputs are pretty much standard on most HDTV's and even without one you can use the HDMI interface as well.

HDTV Test UK is a great review site though they are offline for some reason they reviewed the KDL 3000 series a while back and it covers everything.

My own two cents on the 40" KDL-D3000U which is a 720p display;
* Great picture quality overall
* Wide range of tweaking options instead of one global setting there are lots of steps for settings which is great for finding the right balance e.g Noise Reduction filters for SD content has 4 settings and the motion enhancer has 3 settings at your disposal (their are many-many more like turning off dynamic dimming, colours,backlight control etc)
* Good de-interlacing filters works well with Chorus digital as I was noticing it but now is completely gone (Tweaking options for this too as HD-DVD through Xbox 360 did not like setting one causing jerky playback but setting it to "auto 2" was perfect).
* Nice speakers with some decent kick to them built in.
* Very fast UI the fastest I've ever used for the TV's menu.
* Motion enhancer some may turn this off but I leave it on standard and I like the effect it gives, the high setting though is too much as things look like they are going into fast forward, also takes a while for the eyes to adjust and get used to it.
* Custom settings for all inputs no need to mess with profiles everything gets its own unique settings.
* PC VGA input has a very good scaler for getting effective 1:1 pixel mapping, great for HTPC or media centres.

Negative points;
* For some reason it doesn't always switch back to the scart input with Chorus on it and remembers the other input you were on last, Samsung's always did this right but the Sony gets it right like 7 times out of 10 don't know why.
* A very low noise/pitch from it you have to be very close to the TV to hear it but it is there, comparing against the last set I had which was a Sammy there was no noise from it at all (that said many LCD sometimes get this and can fade away in time such as my own computer monitor which is a NEC had this).
* Remote control doesn't seem to work all that great at certain angles.

big_moe

The Panasonic plasmas have a VGA input for PC. If you have a DVI output on your computer, then buy a DVI-HDMI adapter and away you go. Sony are the same, VGA for analogue PC outputs, and use a DVI-HDMI adapter for Digital PC outputs.

The Full HD thing now, the Panasonic plasmas PV7 & PV70 (PX7 & PX70 in the UK, respectively) support 1080p signals, although they haven't got the high resolution panel. much the same as the D series sony. panasonic have new screens out that HAVE the full hd resolution TH-42PY70 42" and TH-50PY70 50" (TH-42PZ70 & TH-50PZ70 in the UK). Anyway, you're not going to notice the difference on 32" screen between HD (720p) and FULL HD (1080p).

With regards to the whole 24 frames progressively, I doubt very much you'll be able to notice the difference between standard 25 frames per second (fps) and this new 24p fps.

the Sony KDL-32D3000U is the Irish/UK model and the KDL-32D3000E is the European version.

moe

Oshbosh

ah, so

"not fully compatible with high definition DVD players"

doesn't mean NOT compatible,

thanks

Osh

big_moe

sony centres say "ah that panasonic isn't fully compatible with proper hd"

it will still work but just the 24p wont be supported. as i said before, i wouldn't notice the difference and i would have a very tuned in eye to these things.

moe

Oshbosh

where would be the best (cheapest) place to get a Sony 32D3000 / 40D3000 in Dublin ? thanks !

big_moe

ring around.. the usual places:

alliance electric
sony centres
peats

moe

John Dough

On older Sony sets the "U" on the end of the model no. meant UHF tuner only for the U.K. while the "E" meant dual tuner VHF/UHF for Ireland and Europe.;)