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  • 10-09-2007 5:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭


    5/10

    Hand 1. Villain is 32/28 over 150 hands. HAs been very aggro so far.

    Effective stacks of 1100.

    I open KK UTG to 25. Villain calls on the button.

    Flop (85)

    Qd Qc 2c

    I check. he bets 55. I call.

    Turn (195)

    6d

    I check. He bets 155. I call.

    River (505)

    4d

    I check. He bets 455

    Call/fold?


    Hand 2:

    3/6

    Effective stacks of 520.

    Villain is awful. 60/12/1.0 He minraises UTG. I call from the BB with A6.

    Flop (25)

    Q 6 2 rainbow. I check. He bets 6. I call.

    Turn (37)

    6

    I check. He bets 6. I make it 46. He instashoves.

    Call/fold?

    Hand 3:

    3/6 Villain is aggro tag. 22/18/2.8 over 90 hands.

    Effective stacks 400.

    He opens the button to 21. I call from SB with AKo as the BB is very aggro 3 and 3 bets and squeees alot. He folds.

    Flop (48)

    Kd 2d 3x

    I lead for 36. he calls.

    Turn (120)

    8d

    I check. He shoves. I have no diamonds. Call/fold?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭coillcam


    hand 1 is missing turn and river cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    Hand 1 is missing cards, I probably fold to the third barrell.

    Hand 2 Id snapcall he can have tons of hands you beat

    Hand 3 is tough, looks like something like QxQd, is he likely to overbet shove a made hand here? your hand looks like a lone King and he probably has you on KQ KJ etc is he capable of smashing it in on a scarecard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭BobSloane


    I call hand 2 anyway. If he's got QQ its a pretty big cooler.
    I'd probably fold hand 3. AK with the ace of diamonds looks likely?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    prolly fold hand 1, although in the moment I may well press the call button "because I induced it".

    hand 2 I call for sure

    hand 3. Anybody like bet/folding the turn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    sorry edited hand 1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭BobSloane


    If he's very aggro does he have the missed flush draw or air here 1/3 of the time? I'd say its very possible. Whats his general MO from the button?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Hand 1 is close, I would call given hes so aggressive
    Hand 2 easiest call ever
    Hand 3 bet/fold turn sounds good. Far less exploitable too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    1. I was the villain. I had 9cTc. He instacalled my river bet.

    2. He had 22. No miracle river.

    3. I was the villain again here. I had A2 no diamonds. Again, bet was instacalled.

    Moral of the story, I suck at bluffing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭30something


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Moral of the story, too many tracker software packages out there helping other players read my play like my cards are face up

    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    hand 1 is very thin givin hes (youve) been so aggro. i could call or fold and feel good about either, slightly leaning towards a river fold.

    hand 2 i go broke here nearly always.

    hand 3 against a good aggressive player i fold this. against an average player i'd call though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    Trying not to be results oriented, but I think 1 and 2 are clear calls. Don't like the bluff in hand 3 either, it doesn't really represent a hand imo, but he did have a hand at the top of his range. I think the part of his range that will fold to a bluff, will fold to a smaller bet than a shove though

    Bluff in hand 1 probably works when your image is better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    I dont know about 1. yes my image is aggro, but I was well aware of this. Villain in the hand was Theao3 who seems to be decent fwiw. Im representing either a big hand or air against whats an obvious JJ-AA. I think his call is very thin on the river as I only ever have AQ, KQs, a boat or air here. Im not going bananas with 88 or TT here for value.

    2 yeah i wasnt sure. Just thsoe overbet shoves are always the nuts or close to it. I almost folded thinking he ahd exactly that hand. But i guess im probs being results oriented.

    Why doesnt the bluff in hand 3 represent a hand? I think it clearly represents a flush, a set, some kind of combo draw or air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    Yeah his hand is face up, but he prob looks at the flop, your stats, and thinks 'I'm check-calling every street'. He doesn't like his hand but he's not folding to someone so aggressive, and every bet of yours he probably expects you to fire with a ton of your range. Obv you either have boat/Q/air.

    Leaving aside image, what do you think of the merits of betting 300 or so on the river rather than 455?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    when i was analysing my session i thought that was probably the mistake in the hand. Whatever about image, I think a smaller river bet was more likely to get through than the near psb i put in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    I wish I had got to this thread before the results, but I would call all three. Hand 1 im literally instacalling. I think this is a very bad bluff. Everyone goes mental bluffing on paired boards, so its really not a good idea. Also he has taken a check call line, nothing changed in the hand and theres no reason to think he is going to fold.

    Hand 3 is similar, it doesnt look like you want a call, and that you are representing diamonds. You may have a set but id call anyway.

    A big problem I see is that you describe yourself as aggro. If your image is aggro at a table then you really shouldn't be making big bluffs, always play against your image; especially in big pots. The time for doing stuff like hand 1 (which is basically never anyway) is when you have been very cautious and timid recently Not when you have the image of someone who could be bluffing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    ianmc38 wrote:
    I dont know about 1. yes my image is aggro, but I was well aware of this. Villain in the hand was Theao3 who seems to be decent fwiw. Im representing either a big hand or air against whats an obvious JJ-AA. I think his call is very thin on the river as I only ever have AQ, KQs, a boat or air here. Im not going bananas with 88 or TT here for value.

    2 yeah i wasnt sure. Just thsoe overbet shoves are always the nuts or close to it. I almost folded thinking he ahd exactly that hand. But i guess im probs being results oriented.

    Why doesnt the bluff in hand 3 represent a hand? I think it clearly represents a flush, a set, some kind of combo draw or air.

    Surprised Thea called there,I would expect a fold from him most of the time there hes a pretty big nit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Why doesnt the bluff in hand 3 represent a hand? I think it clearly represents a flush, a set, some kind of combo draw or air.

    Cos the SBs range looks like either a flush or some weakish one pair hands. From his point of view, why would you shove a set or a flush against that range? That leaves combo draws or air...


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