Any Engineers Doing Broad Curriculum?

M450

Im going into 3rd year Engineering and was just wondering whether it'd be worth choosing a broad curriculum course to do in place of the management for engineers module...

any info from past 3rd years as to which would be better, and of course good broad curriculum courses?

I only found out about the possibility of replacing the management course the other day!!
Apparently it'll mean 1 less exam...??

Thanks

Which engineering are you doing? If it's Civil, you should perhaps consider how the year is worth 20% of your degree, and how Broad Curriculum courses (could, but not always) receive higher marks. Of course, this isn't foolproof and depends on the person.

I didn't do the BC option simply because I was unsure about doing management in 4th year having covered it in third year - but the only part that really came into it was the references stuff for your final year project. Saying that, I've heard it's completely changed and they even have the guy who owns Daft.ie giving lectures on business plans or something like that?

Newb

I regret not doing Broad Curriculum. I wasn't a huge fan of the Management for Engineers subject and everybody I knew that did the BC option loved it.

The Management for Engineers lecturers are really nice, but I just didn't like the subject. You are required to create a business plan and make a decent attempt to get that plan of the ground. Deep down, I am an engineer and not a business man. I met a few guys in my class that felt the same way.
Not my cup of tea.

Boston

Depending what BC you choose it will probably be alot less work for alot better results. The 3rd year module is self contained and nothing really to do with the 4th year one. We where meant to learn how to write academic scripts in the 3rd year course (since changed complete) but it was a waste of time.

Newb: By the same logic, I'm an engineer, bot an arts student. Some business knowledge will be handy as a huge number of engineers end up running companies. I think thats the idea behind it.

Newb

Boston wrote:

By the same logic, I'm an engineer, bot an arts student.

Not following your logic.

Boston

Newb wrote:

Not following your logic.

Broad Curriculum is about taking on courses you otherwise wouldn't do in your general studies. Many engineers take on arts courses like film studies. You're comment that you're an engineer not a business man so why should you do a 'business' module, cuts both ways, in that you're an engineer, why should you do an arts module. I really can't explain it simpler then that.

Newb

Boston wrote:

Broad Curriculum is about taking on courses you otherwise wouldn't do in your general studies. Many engineers take on arts courses like film studies. You're comment that you're an engineer not a business man so why should you do a 'business' module, cuts both ways, in that you're an engineer, why should you do an arts module. I really can't explain it simpler then that.

So? All I said is that I didn't like business. I never mentioned art at all. I like engineering - thats why I am in the course. I just didn't like Management for Engineers when I got into it.

I never said that business or arts shouldn't be mixed with engineering. I said that I AM not a business man. It is possible to be an engineer and not a business man.

Boston

Newb wrote:

It is possible to be an engineer and not a business man.

I am an engineer, as apposed to a student. You need an understanding of management to be an effective engineer in the real work. Its possible to be an engineer without the first clue about your field. Every year plenty of people graduate with engineering degrees from trinity who have neither the ability nor the inclination to work as an engineer. So yes I understand your point that its possible to be an engineer and not a business man, but you'll do a hell of a lot better if you had a little of the latter in you as well.

Newb

Boston wrote:

I am an engineer, as apposed to a student. You need an understanding of management to be an effective engineer in the real work. Its possible to be an engineer without the first clue about your field. Every year plenty of people graduate with engineering degrees from trinity who have neither the ability nor the inclination to work as an engineer. So yes I understand your point that its possible to be an engineer and not a business man, but you'll do a hell of a lot better if you had a little of the latter in you as well.

Agreed. I might have a change of heart about the course in a few years down the line. I still haven't decided what I am going to do when I leave in a year.

What happened to M450?

Boston

Newb wrote:

Agreed. I might have a change of heart about the course in a few years down the line. I still haven't decided what I am going to do when I leave in a year.

It will probably happen aroudn the time you get tired of making money for someone else.

M450

Boston wrote:

Depending what BC you choose it will probably be alot less work for alot better results.

That seems to be the views of quite alot of people... it seems that there is alot more work involved with management than some of the BC. Plus i believe that there's no BC exams?? whereas there is a management exam...

Boston wrote:

Some business knowledge will be handy as a huge number of engineers end up running companies. I think thats the idea behind it.

This is what makes me not want to give up on the management module, it seems as though it would be very useful to have under your belt after college.
I might jus not bother lookin at the BC courses...

BTW i chose computer engineering... :eek:

Crazy idea, but you could go along to the lectures on business plans etc. but not be examinable in it?

Boston

Myth wrote:

Crazy idea, but you could go along to the lectures on business plans etc. but not be examinable in it?

Myth is bang on with this, the management lectures happen during the day and the BC courses at night. You could do both for awhile. Be warned though, I did Computer & Electronics and I can saftly say third year was the hardest of the 4 years work load wise. The thing about BC is that you will be expected to do alot of reading and essay writing. Something engineers tend to find far more difficult then Arts arts students.

M450

Boston wrote:

The thing about BC is that you will be expected to do alot of reading and essay writing. Something engineers tend to find far more difficult then Arts arts students

Well if there's one thing I hate doing... its essay writing!! even when it comes to writing lab reports I get pissed off...

Boston

well then maybe BC isn't for you.

cunnins4

M450 wrote:

Im going into 3rd year Engineering and was just wondering whether it'd be worth choosing a broad curriculum course to do in place of the management for engineers module...

any info from past 3rd years as to which would be better, and of course good broad curriculum courses?

I only found out about the possibility of replacing the management course the other day!!
Apparently it'll mean 1 less exam...??

Thanks

maso ya c0ck, who told ya about this? Thanks for telling me! When's our timetable out btw?

Boston

You should have recieved numerous emails.

Timetable should be finished by the end of the month. Waddle into the Museum Building in Freshers' Week and the new timetables should be there.

M450

on another note...

I believe everybody except me has already payed their fees,
I havent received any letters as in previous years... wtf?

...turns out i failed the year n didnt know!!! :eek:

M450

M450 wrote:

...turns out i failed the year n didnt know!!! :eek:

How did you not know if you failed?

M450

Myth wrote:

How did you not know if you failed?

I was only joking!!! considering i didnt get a letter in post asking me to pay fees for next year...

You'll get the hired goons coming for you soon enough though