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SE 500 game final table. 3 KQo hands.

  • 05-09-2007 5:04am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭


    Hand #1: Final table of the SE 500 game. Villain in the hand is chip leader. I've never played with him but he seems pretty solid and has not been very active. I didn't play a hand for the first 2 rounds of the table and this is the first pot I've raised. Earlier villain took out 8th place guy by shoving OTT on JJ8 flop with JT and was called by KK. The table is now 7 handed.

    Blinds are 1500/3000 with a 200 running ante.

    Effective stacks. Villain: around 200K. Me: 70K.

    I raise to 10K from second position with KQo. Villain calls on button.

    Flop T-Q-Tr. We both check. Turn is an 8. I bet 12K. He calls. River a 9. I check he bets 25K and I call.

    How's my line here?

    Hand #2: Table is now 4 handed. At the start of the hand I'm 3rd in chips with 100K. Second has 110K. Short stack has about 60K. Chip leader has about 400K.

    Blinds are 3000/6000/500.

    At this point my table image is probably pretty aggressive. I have come over the top of the chip leader atleast twice. I raise to 20K from first position with KQo. Chip leader in BB immediately puts me all in. 4 handed this is the 3rd time he has moved all in OTT against an opponent but the first time against me.

    Payouts are €13,000, €9,100, €5,600, €3,800. I have to call 80K to win 125K which should I win would leave me with twice the stack of second in chips and in with a big shout to win the tournament. Anyone gamble here?

    Hand #3: 3 handed now. Jayminater on button has 130K. I have 54K before I post my big blind. Blinds are 3000/6000/500. Chip leader has 600K so Jay and I are almost certainly playing for second place but it's a nice jump in the money from third.

    Jay raises to 20K on the button. I look down at KQo. What should I do?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    hand 1 you only beat a bluff on the river so totally opponent dependent. your line is good though up until the river call.

    hand 2 fold, and you lost 2k more than you should have

    hand 3 fold unless he is playing aggressively from that position. you have no folding equity and probably not the best hand. If he is opening here with any 2 then id push#

    well done on doing so well!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    #1 - I like bet/fold in the river rather than c/c. His hand looks like a made hand so bet gets value out of weaker ones, and fold if you get raised.

    #2 - I call, if he is getting it in all the time, then I think you have the equity here. Fold is ok too. I would raise less pf - maybe make it 15k.

    #3 - I shove


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    1 I probably fold, maybe bet fold, I know you have induced a bluff by checking the flop but a "solid" live player is rarely bluffing here. 2 I think I fold, you have a better idea than anyone else what his range is likely to be. 3 I shove unless he is particularly tight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭grey_abbey


    Hand 1: I raise flop tbh. There's 25k in the pot and we have 60k behind. I'd want to be taking it down here on that board. You're almost certainly ahead. The only reason i check is if i think he'l bet the flop. aa,kk are prob out, 10x unlikely and if he has aq so be it...As played i fold river

    Hand 2: I raise less although maybe that was the recognized raise at the table...I fold to push.

    Hand 3: I push. I think he'l be trying to apply pressure on you since you are his 2nd place rival.He wont want you getting walks.Think his range is big enough to think ul be ahead most of the time

    Well Done on the good showing...

    Criticism of above welcome particularly hand 1.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Hand 1: I wouldn't call the river, but I probably play the rest the same way.

    Hand 2: If he's pushing fairly light, as in low pairs, loads of aces and some decent kings, you may have a marginal call. But if he's tighter, it's a clear fold.

    Hand 3: Yeah, push.

    Hands 2 and 3 are perfect for running through ICM, although I haven't time to do it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Don't like bet-folding hand 1, I prefer check-folding to that line, really not much can call you that you beat.
    Hand 2 looks like a fold to me, people often overestimate the amount of times an opponents is playing back at them
    Hand 3 looks very close to me, seems like a marginal push imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    Hand 1, I called. He had 77.

    Hand 2. I folded. This was against Michael Muldoon. I find him almost impossible to read.

    Hand 3. I pushed but surely a stop & go is better here since its an autocall for Jay. A Stop n' Go gets a lot of Ax hands to fold.

    He had A7s and would have had nothing of the ten high flop so it probably would have worked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    well only if he sucks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    NickyOD wrote:
    Hand #1: Final table of the SE 500 game. Villain in the hand is chip leader. I've never played with him but he seems pretty solid and has not been very active. I didn't play a hand for the first 2 rounds of the table and this is the first pot I've raised. Earlier villain took out 8th place guy by shoving OTT on JJ8 flop with JT and was called by KK. The table is now 7 handed.

    Blinds are 1500/3000 with a 200 running ante.

    Effective stacks. Villain: around 200K. Me: 70K.

    I raise to 10K from second position with KQo. Villain calls on button.

    Flop T-Q-Tr. We both check. Turn is an 8. I bet 12K. He calls. River a 9. I check he bets 25K and I call.

    How's my line here?

    Hand #2: Table is now 4 handed. At the start of the hand I'm 3rd in chips with 100K. Second has 110K. Short stack has about 60K. Chip leader has about 400K.

    Blinds are 3000/6000/500.

    At this point my table image is probably pretty aggressive. I have come over the top of the chip leader atleast twice. I raise to 20K from first position with KQo. Chip leader in BB immediately puts me all in. 4 handed this is the 3rd time he has moved all in OTT against an opponent but the first time against me.

    Payouts are €13,000, €9,100, €5,600, €3,800. I have to call 80K to win 125K which should I win would leave me with twice the stack of second in chips and in with a big shout to win the tournament. Anyone gamble here?

    Hand #3: 3 handed now. Jayminater on button has 130K. I have 54K before I post my big blind. Blinds are 3000/6000/500. Chip leader has 600K so Jay and I are almost certainly playing for second place but it's a nice jump in the money from third.

    Jay raises to 20K on the button. I look down at KQo. What should I do?


    Hand 1: its ok till the river, i cant flat call there, its over half your stack, and since you have 22k already commited out of a 70k stack and you have a decision for 25k i cant flat call.....id probably have bet the flop tbh

    Hand 2:fold...

    Hand 3: ship it!! you dont have alot of fold equity but meh, gamble here me thinks


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