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Anyone else notice the spate of Cardiac problems?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    DesF wrote:
    That is such a sad video, I can hardly watch it.
    Isnt it just.

    Watching Tiago and Simao and the other plays crying almost made me cry aswell, so, so sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4632546396732254867
    That's the one i originally saw, shows clips from the funeral as well, very sad indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    JERUSALEM (AP) -- Chaswe Nsofwa, a forward who played for Zambia at the 2002 African Cup of Nations, collapsed during a practice session Wednesday in the Israeli city of Beersheva and died minutes later in a hospital, the Israeli rescue service said.

    Nsofwa was with Hapoel Beersheva, which plays in Israel's second division. Israel TV reported he collapsed during a practice game in the desert city. Rescue workers tried to restart his heart for several minutes on the field before taking him to Soroka Hospital in Beersheba.

    ...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AnE7MxNvEpRbYARzvyTdf1Q5nYcB?slug=ap-israel-playerdies&prov=ap&type=lgns


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭odonnell


    www.mcquillancup.com

    its only just gone live, in tribute to my mate and all about the UCD football tourney we are throwing in his name. Theres links to C.R.Y (Cardiac Risk in the Young) there if anyone is interested in learning more about the condition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    To me its just unbelievable how quick governing bodies are to get players to piss in a cup after games but yet have done absolutely nothing about this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭juanveron45


    I find it weird that this is alot more common now than say 30-40 years agao and it seems to only affect young men into sport, I never hear girls dropping dead.Does anyone think that sports supplementation could be factor, im not saying it is but sads is a relatively new phenominon and so is sports supplementation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Well, I dunno if its more common - I think perhaps we're just more aware of it happening now.

    Perhaps now in the age of the internet, satillite comms, digital tv, etc.. it's easier for us to come across these incidents in reports we would have never otherwise have read. As an example see eirebhoy posted that Yahoo! report from Israel but it appears to yet to be reported on a traditional news source such as the BBC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    A tunisian player died this time last year as well, he was only 24.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2158583,00.html

    they are saying that youngster Reid who died had recently passed a cardiac scan, and they aren't sure on Clarke specifically but apparently Sunderland players routinely undergo a cardiac examination of sorts so there is a good chance he had one recently enough. it's odd, maybe the tests aren't complete enough...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    There was a piece on Newstalk this morning about this. A doctor said that sometimes tests can't detect the arhythmia thing, and even in some cases a post mortem shows nothing. However, there is a very specific test that can be caried out, different to the ECG, that has a better chance of catching it. But even still, because it's a 'fault' with the electrical impulses in the heart muscle, it isn't always picked up.

    Cormac McAnallen's mother was on too, calling for some standard tests to be introduced accross the board for professional sportspeople (including GAA, who are professionals in every sense of the word, apart from admitting to getting paid).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Another player has died...

    Zambian player Nsofwa dies in training
    JERUSALEM, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Zambian striker Chaswe Nsofwa of Israeli second division side Hapoel Beer Sheva collapsed and died during a practice match in the southern desert city on Wednesday, ambulance staff said.
    Nsofwa, 27, was pronounced dead at Beer Sheva's Soroka Hospital after resuscitation efforts on the pitch failed to revive him, the Magen David Adom ambulance service said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Archimedes wrote:
    Another player has died...

    Zambian player Nsofwa dies in training
    JERUSALEM, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Zambian striker Chaswe Nsofwa of Israeli second division side Hapoel Beer Sheva collapsed and died during a practice match in the southern desert city on Wednesday, ambulance staff said.
    Nsofwa, 27, was pronounced dead at Beer Sheva's Soroka Hospital after resuscitation efforts on the pitch failed to revive him, the Magen David Adom ambulance service said.

    aye it's mentioned on the previous page. that's 3 in 10 days and a fourth in hospital. has there ever been that amount in such quick sucession? or is it a case of just more media coverage these days meaning we're hearing more about this than we would have previously?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Well lads, this really hits home when someone you know is affected.

    I found out last night that my flatemate's cousin collapsed on the football field last saturday, and is now sitting in Beaumont hospital with a heart complaint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    DesF wrote:
    Well lads, this really hits home when someone you know is affected.

    I found out last night that my flatemate's cousin collapsed on the football field last saturday, and is now sitting in Beaumont hospital with a heart complaint.


    Bummer, I hope he's ok


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭odonnell


    it puts the frighteners up you when it happens. Everytime i feel dizzy on the pitch now i stop and take a moment to make sure its ok.... i know a lot of the lads are the same.

    its a kick up the arse like...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    I was not able to listen to the news yesterday... did they find out why those 2 boys died?

    one was in P.E and the other was in GAA training right?


  • Posts: 14,379 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Astonishing that it could happen to a 10 year old. Scares the sh*t outta me to be honest. The whole thing is so surreal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Similar story. Last week I was playing ball and felt dissy so like some of you I just walked off the pitch. Not willing to take a chance any more and play on.

    My gf works in a hospital and from talking to some of her friends (surgeons etc..) one was telling me exactly what the suden adult death syndrome is. Apparently and forgive me for not having the technical info/terms here, there is an electrical pulse either going to or eminating from your heart. Can't quite remember which. Essentially it tells your heart to beat. Hence why they shock you if your heart stops in hospital. Well for reasons they have not been able to figure out yet this pulse simply stops.The result being that the heart just stops. Very scary stuff and according to one of them it seems to be the more active fitter people that suffer from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    iregk wrote:
    Similar story. Last week I was playing ball and felt dissy so like some of you I just walked off the pitch. Not willing to take a chance any more and play on.

    I'd like to know what the manager had to say about this?

    Was he understanding, or did he have a go?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    DesF wrote:
    I'd like to know what the manager had to say about this?

    Was he understanding, or did he have a go?

    Well it wasn't a proper club match. Probably should have said kickabout match with lads. was 11 a side all right but no management/ref/anything of the sort.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    iregk wrote:
    Well it wasn't a proper club match. Probably should have said kickabout match with lads. was 11 a side all right but no management/ref/anything of the sort.
    Ah cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,585 ✭✭✭patmac


    16 year old died in the Gym this week in Moate, another in Tyrone, and I have just heard another 16 year colllapsed playing soccer in Marist College Athlone this afternoon, condition unknown, school has been closed, everyone in the Midlands is trying to figure out what is going on, I'm 46 and nothing like this ever happened when I was younger, I played rugby at a high level and did a lot of cross-country running, maybe the more 'scientific' training nowadays is contributing to this or could it be mobile phones, electrical impulses and all that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    patmac wrote:
    16 year old died in the Gym this week in Moate, another in Tyrone, and I have just heard another 16 year colllapsed playing soccer in Marist College Athlone this afternoon, condition unknown, school has been closed, everyone in the Midlands is trying to figure out what is going on, I'm 46 and nothing like this ever happened when I was younger, I played rugby at a high level and did a lot of cross-country running, maybe the more 'scientific' training nowadays is contributing to this or could it be mobile phones, electrical impulses and all that?

    That boy was pronounced dead in hospital today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Another one in Tyrone today, what is going on?? RIP all four.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0908/tyrone.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Scary stuff, could it be something that people are eating or drinking that raises the chance of this happening, because 4 deathes in one week in almost the exact same circumstances is really eery.

    RIP and my heart goes out to their families:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Scary stuff, could it be something that people are eating or drinking that raises the chance of this happening, because 4 deathes in one week in almost the exact same circumstances is really eery.

    RIP and my heart goes out to their families:(
    I was just thinking this, a sports drink or something similar. Definitely warrants massive research and compulsary tests for ALL children.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    patmac wrote:
    16 year old died in the Gym this week in Moate, another in Tyrone, and I have just heard another 16 year colllapsed playing soccer in Marist College Athlone this afternoon, condition unknown, school has been closed, everyone in the Midlands is trying to figure out what is going on, I'm 46 and nothing like this ever happened when I was younger, I played rugby at a high level and did a lot of cross-country running, maybe the more 'scientific' training nowadays is contributing to this or could it be mobile phones, electrical impulses and all that?


    While its awful Id imagine that back in your day these things simply didnt make the news. For all we know sudden death syndrome happens maybe, i dunno, lets just say once every 3 weeks. It gets highlighted when McAnallen or Foe dies, but it only becomes a big worry when young people start purely coincidentally dropping off within the same 2 odd week period of each other. This type of thing probably happens every, i dunno, 20 day, its only because there has been so many since late August until now that the media report it heavily and therefore we know about it. The last 10 days had seen what, 4 young lads dead? If the same 4 had died over a 3 month period we would hear next to nothing about it. And its quite possible that between, say, now and November, we wont hear any more about it (hopefully). Its the same with, for example, drug related murders. If 4 or 5 people die in a week, as happened a few times last year or early this year, its a national emergency. I cant remember the last fatal shooting reported in Dublin, hasnt been one in months far as I know and therefore no fuss, its only when these things come in 3s or 4s that they attract attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Unbelievable really...that's the 4th I can recall this season alone:confused: - Puerta, O'Donnell, Clarke, Randriana.
    Former Birmingham City player Marco Randriana is recovering in hospital after suffering a heart attack during a Ligue 2 match with his club Niort in Sedan, a Reims hospital spokesman said on Saturday.

    The 24-year-old midfielder collapsed in the 23rd minute of the game on Friday night. Medical staff rushed to his side and used a defibrillator.

    'They probably saved his life. He recovered consciousness in the ambulance during his transfer to the Reims hospital.

    'He is now in stable condition but will stay under observation in the emergency ward for a few days,' the spokesman said.


    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0119/football.html?rss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Pretty scary stuff.
    One theory doing the rounds is pretty believable also.

    Doctors are less and less likely to prescribe painkillers due to addiction issues etc, and especially to athletes where many of the substances involved are banned.
    They are instead prescribing anti-inflamitarys such as Ibrufen and others whic have been linked when over used to heart conditions already, but the fact that they contain many blood thinning agents is also raising alarms in this instance.

    Obviously im no medical scientist and im open to being shot down here, but im just passing on my ideas of what ive been readig etc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Pretty scary stuff.
    One theory doing the rounds is pretty believable also.

    Doctors are less and less likely to prescribe painkillers due to addiction issues etc, and especially to athletes where many of the substances involved are banned.
    They are instead prescribing anti-inflamitarys such as Ibrufen and others whic have been linked when over used to heart conditions already, but the fact that they contain many blood thinning agents is also raising alarms in this instance.

    Obviously im no medical scientist and im open to being shot down here, but im just passing on my ideas of what ive been readig etc.

    Ive heard this as well.

    Players are fitter and monitored more than ever before. It must be something being introduced into their systems, painkillers, injections? isotonic drinks?


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