Some 50PLO hands

Ste05

I'm trying to learn the basics and thus far it's going really well, I'm running at something like 20PTBB/100 so obviously it's not sustainable, but some of the players quite simply are completely clueless, it's really quite nice... although I suppose that's the case with most players at this level... Anyway onto the hands, they're probably basic enough, but that's what I'm trying to get to know.

Hand 1:

Seat 1: expekt3558970 ($20.10 in chips)
Seat 3: Ste05 ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 5: HermetoPascoal ($19.55 in chips) DEALER
Seat 6: sterios ($74.80 in chips)
Seat 8: trigger0909 ($53.71 in chips)
Seat 10: CbrPnk ($47.75 in chips)
sterios: Post SB $0.25
trigger0909: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ste05 [7h 9s Ah 5s]
CbrPnk: Raise $1.75
expekt3558970: Call $1.75
Ste05: Call $1.75
HermetoPascoal: Fold
sterios: Fold
trigger0909: Call $1.25
*** FLOP *** [6s 10h 8h]
trigger0909: Check
CbrPnk: Check
expekt3558970: Bet $7.25
Ste05: Raise or Call to hope to induce action behind me, obviously the shorty that lead is stacking off but he only has $20 and I'd like to play a huge pot with this hand, so is it better to call and risk the board pairing or just raise and see what happens?

Hand 2:

Seat 3: HermetoPascoal ($62.10 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: twagma ($29.00 in chips)
Seat 6: CbrPnk ($48.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Ste05 ($129.14 in chips)
Seat 10: PARISGR ($14.20 in chips)
twagma: Post SB $0.25
CbrPnk: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ste05 [As 9d Ad Jd]
Ste05: Raise $1.75
PARISGR: Call $1.75
HermetoPascoal: Call $1.75
twagma: Fold
CbrPnk: Fold
*** FLOP *** [10d 8s 8c]
Ste05: Check
PARISGR: Check
HermetoPascoal: Check
*** TURN *** [4d]
Ste05: Bet $6.00
PARISGR: Fold
HermetoPascoal: Call $6.00
*** RIVER *** [Kd]
Ste05: Check
HermetoPascoal: Bet $13.00
Ste05: ??? Do you call here even though it's a paired board?

Hand 3: I was kind of at sea this whole hand and I’d appreciate comments on all streets

Seat 1: pumpbogeys ($14.20 in chips)
Seat 3: scrub247 ($55.80 in chips)
Seat 5: xickexxx ($88.70 in chips)
Seat 6: Ste05 ($55.55 in chips)
Seat 8: McGerm ($57.85 in chips)
Seat 10: Disco20001 ($36.80 in chips) DEALER
pumpbogeys: Post SB $0.25
scrub247: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ste05 [8s Ac As 8h]
xickexxx: Call $0.50
Ste05: Raise $2.25
McGerm: Call $2.25
Disco20001: Fold
pumpbogeys: Fold
scrub247: Call $1.75
xickexxx: Call $1.75
*** FLOP *** [Qs 4h Jd]
scrub247: Check
xickexxx: Check
Ste05: Bet $8.00
McGerm: Call $8.00
scrub247: Fold
xickexxx: Fold
*** TURN *** [6h]
Ste05: Check [Was this a mistake as no str8 draw hit and there’s now another draw, I didn’t want to get raised having to throw my hand away and decided to give a free card and didn’t like my hand too much after getting called]
McGerm: Check
*** RIVER *** [Ah]
Ste05: Check
McGerm: Bet $12.50
Ste05: ?? even though basically every possible draw just hit should I be calling this??

5starpool

I might reply more tomorrow, but I am tired and off to bed now.

Hand 1: I usually raise here as anything from 6-Q is a bad card potentially unless it is a heart that doesn't pair. Calling isn't terrible but be prepared to slow down big time if a crap card hits.

Hand 2: I usually bet the flop here, and if any action let it go a lot unless you hit cheaply on the turn. As played, marginal on the river, but unless I had a reason not to I think a fold is best.

Hand 3: I check/fold the flop a lot here if it is bet. River bet stinks of a middle flush or straight. If you think he might fold then raise, but there is no value calling here I think most of the time. Fold mostly.

Then again I am on the conservative side mostly.

Ace2007

Hand 1: i reraise since if the board pairs your in trouble more than likely in the long run, and you do want to get into good habits.

Hand 2: As 5starpool said bet the flop just to see where you stand, as it is i fold, i can't really see HermetoPascoal bettin here with out the house.

Hand 3: yea you gotta fold here, too many hands beat you...

Daithio

Hand 1: I raise I think. There are alot of cards that can come on the turn which will make you have to slow it down.

Hand 2: Bet the flop, give it up if there's any action. I think I call the river as played. He will have been slowplaying here a fair amount of the time but I think he's an idiot enough of the time to make it a profitable call.

Hand 3: I check fold the flop here against that many players on that sort of board. So likely you are already beaten or up against at least a big draw. As played I defo bet the turn again having gotten it HU. As played on the river I defo don't flat call. Maybe do as 5star says if you think he may fold but I doubt it's very profitable at this level.

5starpool

Ace2007 wrote:

Hand 2: As 5starpool said bet the flop just to see where you stand, as it is i fold, i can't really see HermetoPascoal bettin here with out the house.

How dare you....

RoundTower

hand 1 definitely raise, you will still get calls from weaker draws if they are out there. Also shorty might not stack off on all turns.
hand 2 is very read dependent, against some guys I would fold 8T here.
hand 3 I think you played OK and can just fold the river, slightly read dependent though. Sometimes I bet the turn but checking is OK too.

Killme00

Hand 1: Raise, you dont need to flat call to enduce action behind you, if they are strong enough they will come along for the ride, you dont want to make it cheap for them.

Hand 2: Bet the flop not the turn, it will make it easier to play later streets. As played i fold the river

Hand 3: Preflop: Do you ever check call or check raise with aces from early position. I would check call the flop and bet the turn, i find its alot stronger bluff. As played call the river.

ianmc38

RoundTower wrote:

hand 1 definitely raise, you will still get calls from weaker draws if they are out there. Also shorty might not stack off on all turns.
hand 2 is very read dependent, against some guys I would fold 8T here.
hand 3 I think you played OK and can just fold the river, slightly read dependent though. Sometimes I bet the turn but checking is OK too.

What RT said.
A quick note on hand 2. I would rarely bet the flop. Its almost impossible to get action from a worse hand there and it also allows for tonnes of semi bluffing draws and loating etc by other people.

Ste05

Hand 1: I raised pot and it was folded around to the shorty who had the idiot end of the str8 and no re-draw, I had 92% equity, he had 1% and it was 7% the draw. I wasn't sure if I should have called hopefully inducing someone else in so I wanted to check because I had the nuts a re-draw to the nut flush, so once the board doesn't pair I was likely to win the hand.

Hand 2: I called and he had 1010, I just couldn't see him playing it so passively on the flop and turn, but meh.

Hand 3: I thought about bluff raising the River but I didn't think anything was folding at this level, I think I should have folded but I called and he had K10xx for the straight. I wasn't sure whether I should have fired again on the turn or not but again I didn't want to get raised and thought a turn bet might be a little spewy.

RoundTower

ianmc38 wrote:

Its almost impossible to get action from a worse hand there and it also allows for tonnes of semi bluffing draws and loating etc by other people.

how can both of these be true?

Ace2007

5starpool wrote:

How dare you....

?

kryogen

Daithio wrote:

Hand 1: I raise I think. There are alot of cards that can come on the turn which will make you have to slow it down.

Hand 2: Bet the flop, give it up if there's any action. I think I call the river as played. He will have been slowplaying here a fair amount of the time but I think he's an idiot enough of the time to make it a profitable call.

Hand 3: I check fold the flop here against that many players on that sort of board. So likely you are already beaten or up against at least a big draw. As played I defo bet the turn again having gotten it HU. As played on the river I defo don't flat call. Maybe do as 5star says if you think he may fold but I doubt it's very profitable at this level.

Agree.