Tonights kick in the teeth!!!! Variance or Play?

Macspower

Tonight has been one of those kick in the teeth nights and then kick you when your down even more... All this happened within about the last 2 hours which leaves this months profit in jeprody

Please don't direct me to the BB sticky as they are already in there but I'd be interested to know if I played these ok or if I could/should have got away from any of them... I feel that some of them were pure spewtardism at it's best...

Some are pretty standard stuff I think but still value a quick opinion....
Many thanks for any help...

Hand 1

Green Joker Poker 1.00/2.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button suzetel ($263.55)
SB demacc ($198.00)
BB InYourAceee ($209.45)
UTG ALPAGUN ($73.35)
UTG+1 BrunoTheHunk ($371.05)
CO malcolm1 ($124.50)

Preflop: , ALPAGUN calls 2.00, 2 folds, suzetel raises to 9.00, demacc raises to 25.00, 2 folds, suzetel calls 17.00.

Flop (56.00) 7 7 6
demacc bets 45.00, suzetel moves all-in for 237.55, demacc moves all-in for 127.00.

Turn (465.55) 9

River (465.55) 8

demacc shows K K
suzetel shows A A

suzetel wins 465.55 with Two pair, Ace's and Seven's with a Nine for a kicker

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Hand 2

Green Joker Poker 1.00/2.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button oreily86 ($199.10)
SB magoaq ($816.15)
BB demacc ($193.35)

Preflop: , oreily86 raises to 8.00, 1 fold, demacc calls 6.00.

Flop (17.00) Jd 8s 6s
demacc bets 14.00, oreily86 raises to 38.00, demacc calls 24.00.

Turn (93.00) 5c
demacc checks, oreily86 bets 78.00, demacc moves all-in for 147.35, oreily86 calls 69.35.

River (387.70) 8h

demacc shows Kc Ks
oreily86 shows Ac Ah

oreily86 wins 387.70 with Two pair, Ace's and Eight's with a Jack for a kicker

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Hand 3

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Button ProudArab ($205.65)
SB Bluffman21 ($95.20)
BB nozaking ($200.00)
UTG bruno25 ($119.20)
UTG+1 Turntable ($194.90)
CO demacc ($196.00)

Preflop: , 2 folds, demacc raises to 7.00, ProudArab calls 7.00, Bluffman21 raises to 21.00, 1 fold, demacc raises to 60.00, 1 fold, Bluffman21 moves all-in for 73.20, demacc calls 28.20.

Flop (199.40) 6c 6s 4h

Turn (199.40) 2s

River (199.40) Jd

Bluffman21 shows Kd Kh
demacc shows Kc As

Bluffman21 wins 199.40 with Two pair, King's and Six's with a Jack for a kicker

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Hand 4

Green Joker Poker 1.00/2.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button acetking ($86.85)
SB demacc ($263.85)
BB InYourAceee ($217.25)
UTG cozanostra ($200.00)
UTG+1 xRedDogx ($205.75)

Preflop: , 2 folds, acetking calls 2.00, demacc raises to 7.00, 1 fold, acetking calls 6.00.

Flop (18.00) Jc 3d 5s
demacc bets 16.00, acetking calls 16.00.

Turn (50.00) Jh
demacc checks, acetking checks.

River (50.00) Kc
demacc bets 35.00, acetking moves all-in for 62.85, demacc calls 27.85

acetking shows Th Jd
demacc shows Ah Ac

acetking wins 175.70 with Three of a kind, Jack's

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Hand 5

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Button StitchesAA ($135.90)
SB Piranha13 ($353.80)
BB thesorcerer ($87.72)
UTG MaharashamXP ($197.00)
UTG+1 demacc ($194.00)
CO Koppel2 ($100.51)

Preflop: , MaharashamXP calls 2.00, demacc raises to 9.00, 2 folds, Piranha13 raises to 25.00, 2 folds, demacc raises to 60.00, Piranha13 moves all-in for 327.80, demacc moves all-in for 125.00.

Flop (551.80) Th Qh 8c

Turn (551.80) 9h

River (551.80) 3d

Piranha13 shows Ah Ad
demacc shows As Kc

Piranha13 wins 551.80 with One pair, Ace

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Hand 6
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Button xRedDogx ($212.95)
SB acetking ($81.55)
BB demacc ($318.70)
UTG InYourAceee ($220.45)
UTG+1 ALPAGUN ($79.60)
CO BrunoTheHunk ($453.50)

Preflop: , 1 fold, ALPAGUN calls 2.00, 2 folds, acetking calls 1.00, demacc raises to 7.00, ALPAGUN raises to 28.00, 1 fold, demacc moves all-in for 309.70, ALPAGUN moves all-in for 49.60.

Flop (400.30) Qd 7c Td

Turn (400.30) Th

River (400.30) 7d

ALPAGUN shows Ac As
demacc shows Kc Ks

ALPAGUN wins 400.30 with Two pair, Ace's and Ten's with a Queen for a kicker

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Hand 7

Green Joker Poker 1.00/2.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button Turntable ($196.90)
SB demacc ($205.60)
BB ProudArab ($202.45)
UTG Bluffman21 ($197.65)
UTG+1 nozaking ($215.70)
CO bruno25 ($86.20)

Preflop: , 2 folds, bruno25 calls 2.00, Turntable raises to 6.00, demacc raises to 17.00, 2 folds, Turntable calls 12.00.

Flop (40.00) Qc Tc Kd
demacc bets 30.00, Turntable calls 30.00.

Turn (100.00) 9c
demacc checks, Turntable bets 82.00, demacc calls 82.00.

River (264.00) 3h
demacc checks, Turntable moves all-in for 66.90, demacc calls 66.90

Turntable shows Js Ks
demacc shows Ac Ah

Turntable wins 397.80 with A straight, King high

Captain Tom

hand 1 your 3b pre flop is a bit small. id make it like 30. rest is standard obv.

hand 2 id just 3b preflop. it's shorthanded, he might get outta line with something marginal. as played i probably just 3b flop and get it in. draw heavy board and your hand is fairly underrepped so he can stack off with worse.

hand 3 fine.

hand 4 is fine. checking that river is losing value most of the time.

hand 5 4b is too small. pretty standard otherwise unless he's a nit.

hand 6 standard.

hand 7 i probably just fold the turn. even though your getting sick odds on the river he basically never has a worse hand. he wont bluff with like 1/4th psb left and he wont v/bet anything worse.

dvdfan

Hand 1: Ouch

Hand 2: Not much you can do but why no 3bet?

Hand 3: Dont Like, saying that i dont anything about how much you or villain are 3betting light at this level

Hand 4: Sick

Hand 5: Same as 3, except i think this is worse

Hand 6: Start folding KK preflop seriously:eek:

Hand 7: Im starting a petition for you to have your own Bad Beat section but seriously if you were float on the market id put my bankroll on you and go and sit on a beach drinking Pina Colados because when your variance swings the other way theres no resolution screen available on the market that will be able to show both the top and bottom of the graph.

Edit///Ok judging by last reply i just no idea of how 3betting goes at the higher levels cause id never make these plays, obviously you need to be doing this with AK at that level to be getting paid off on your AK hands

Captain Tom

dvdfan wrote:

Hand 3: Dont Like, saying that i dont anything about how much you or villain are 3betting light at this level

did you notice stack sizes?

Van Dice

1 - happens.
2 - ditto. kinda like the way you played it tho
3 - are all the hands you posted coolers?
4 - seems like it. ul that he was shortstacked, against full stack it's an easy b/f river but suppose you have to call given it's so little, even though you are ahead about never.
5 - read dependent. i doubt that getting AIPF with AKo at 1/2 is profitable though.
6 - stop posting coolers!
7 - I think you can fold the turn here

In summary, you are a very unlucky human being

dvdfan

Captain Tom wrote:

did you notice stack sizes?

Ive alot to learn to be honest about 3betting, its one of my weaknesses, but they way i would look at it when playing my level is villains still a slight favourite if hes range is JJ+ and AQ+ and im a slight favourite if hes range includes AJo+ so id just flat call here, obviously peoples ranges for 3betting are lighter here so that dosent apply.

Macspower

thanks for advice guys...... going throught them myself I can now see the cooler element of some of the hands.... Sry for annoying ye with them.... Just posted all loosing hands

I don't mind the getting it AI with AK against the guy in hand 3 but I dont like hand 5.... hate calling an AI with AK this deep...