3 More 100 NL Hands: Part 2

dvdfan · 27-08-2007 11:44am #1

Hand 1: Results Will Follow Later

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button ($187.80)
SB ($42.95)
BB ($145.15)
UTG ($103.55)
UTG+1 ($100.00)
CO Hero ($108.50)

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with 7h 7s
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 4.00, Hero calls 4.00, 3 folds.

Flop (9.50) 7c Kh 3c
UTG+1 bets 7.00, Hero calls 7.00.

Turn (23.50) Ts
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 14.00, UTG+1 calls 14.00.

River (51.50) Ad
UTG+1 bets 47.00, Hero moves all-in for 83.50, UTG+1 moves all-in for 28.00

Villain is 20/9/2.38 over 1200 hands Went to SD 23% Won at SD 58% and river agression is 5.5

Comments on all streets please

Hand 2:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button ($91.95)
SB ($100.00)
BB Hero ($100.00)
UTG ($119.55)
UTG+1 ($141.40)
CO ($116.25)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 6s 6h
UTG calls 1.00, UTG+1 calls 1.00, 1 fold, Button calls 1.00, SB calls 0.50, Hero checks.

Flop (5.00) Jh 9h 6c
SB checks, Hero bets 4.00, UTG calls 4.00, 3 folds.

Turn (13.00) 2h
Hero bets 10.00, UTG raises to 20.00, Hero calls 10.00.

River (53.00) Ad
Hero checks, UTG moves all-in for 94.55, Hero ????

Villain is 63/5/1.82 over 200 hands, i had a note on him saying villain pushed on my flop bet with ???, now i usually write these type of notes quickly after calling with hands like TPTK when priced in and not too confident about winning the pot and the pot comes my way because usually they leave as soon as their busted and i find by the time i write the note and check the HH they are gone and you cant finish the note so this warns me he pushed light or with a bluff and i didnt get time to finish the note because he sat out. Hes won at SD is 40%

Call or Fold?

Nils2 is hes username BTW if anyone has stats

Hand 3:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button ($63.65)
SB ($186.05)
BB ($44.00)
UTG ($34.55)
UTG+1 Hero ($232.30)
CO ($100.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Jh Kh
1 fold, Hero raises to 3.50, 1 fold, SB calls 3.00, BB calls 2.50.

Flop (10.50) 8s Ks 3c
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 7.50, SB calls 7.50, BB calls 7.50.

Turn (33.00) Jd
SB checks, BB moves all-in for 33.00, Hero calls 33.00, SB raises to 66.00, Hero???

This one is very difficult with us nearly 200bb deep.

SB Is 30/14/1.65 Over 1k hands, agression by streets 1.84 / 1.27 / 2.08
Went to SD 28% - Won at SD 50%
BB jusr sat down and its hes first hand

ianmc38 · 27-08-2007 1:20pm

1. Raise the flop. Rest of the hand is fine though I'd rather you bet more on the turn ~18.

2. Looks like a fold. Hands he's showndown in spots like this are important

3. Has he ever minraised before? Would he ever play AK like this? I'd probably call turn and reassesss river.

dvdfan · 27-08-2007 2:25pm

ianmc38 wrote:

1. Raise the flop. Rest of the hand is fine though I'd rather you bet more on the turn ~18.

2. Looks like a fold. Hands he's showndown in spots like this are important

3. Has he ever minraised before? Would he ever play AK like this? I'd probably call turn and reassesss river.

On hand 3 ive no notes on his min raise, most of my stats are mined stats but its obviously a big hand, i dont think we ever see a 1.68 agression player min raise in a big pot like this with a big stack behind with less than 1 pair EVER.

TommyGunne · 27-08-2007 2:31pm

Originally posted by ianmc38
1. Raise the flop. Rest of the hand is fine though I'd rather you bet more on the turn ~18.

2. Looks like a fold. Hands he's showndown in spots like this are important

.

Hand 3: Ouch. The only hands i can see logically fit in are JJ and J8. Albeit the logic might be thin! On the other hand logic and non-boardie players usually don't go well together! Surely sets/2 pairs cr/bet flop? Does SB float much? At worst your getting 5/1 pot odds and 8/1 implied odds for a four outer (9%?) SB cant be bluffing here surely.
Any time this has happened to me I'm drawing very thin. I know you have monster pot odds, but I say get out of there.
Horrible spot.

ianmc38 · 27-08-2007 2:36pm

dvdfan wrote:

On hand 3 ive no notes on his min raise, most of my stats are mined stats but its obviously a big hand, i dont think we ever see a 1.68 agression player min raise in a big pot like this with a big stack behind with less than 1 pair EVER.

well ifs thats ur read, id fold as he's playing the hand exactly like a retard plays one.

TommyGunne · 27-08-2007 2:37pm

Originally posted by ianmc38
1. Raise the flop. Rest of the hand is fine though I'd rather you bet more on the turn ~18.

2. Looks like a fold. Hands he's showndown in spots like this are important

.

Hand 3: Ouch. The only hands i can see logically fit in are JJ and J8. Albeit the logic might be thin! On the other hand logic and non-boardie players usually don't go well together! Surely sets/2 pairs cr/bet flop? Does SB float much? At worst your getting 5/1 pot odds and 8/1 implied odds for a four outer (9%?) SB cant be bluffing here surely.
Any time this has happened to me I'm drawing very thin. I know you have monster pot odds, but I say get out of there.
Horrible spot.

dvdfan · 27-08-2007 11:03pm

Time for results so:

Hand 1:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button ($187.80)
SB ($42.95)
BB ($145.15)
UTG ($103.55)
UTG+1 ($100.00)
CO Hero ($108.50)

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with 7h 7s
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 4.00, Hero calls 4.00, 3 folds.

Flop (9.50) 7c Kh 3c
UTG+1 bets 7.00, Hero calls 7.00.

Turn (23.50) Ts
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 14.00, UTG+1 calls 14.00.

River (51.50) Ad
UTG+1 bets 47.00, Hero moves all-in for 83.50, UTG+1 moves all-in for 28.00

Hero shows 7h 7s
UTG+1 shows Qc Jd

UTG+1 wins 210.00 with A straight, Ace high

My taught on the hand, alot of the time ill look at the villains V$PIP to try and determine a range that hes raising with and i had him on a tight range considering hes raising from EP so i was thinking AK-AJ, AA-22 maybe KQs. After betting the flop and calling the turn raise i was thinking maybe AK or KQ or a set. River, i was pretty sure now he was on AK and i felt he would fold and he was pushed. I hadnt considered QJ in hes range so i never even spotted the straight but i think alot of the time hell show up with AK here.

Hand 2:
Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button ($91.95)
SB ($100.00)
BB Hero ($100.00)
UTG ($119.55)
UTG+1 ($141.40)
CO ($116.25)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 6s 6h
UTG calls 1.00, UTG+1 calls 1.00, 1 fold, Button calls 1.00, SB calls 0.50, Hero checks.

Flop (5.00) Jh 9h 6c
SB checks, Hero bets 4.00, UTG calls 4.00, 3 folds.

Turn (13.00) 2h
Hero bets 10.00, UTG raises to 20.00, Hero calls 10.00.

River (53.00) Ad
Hero checks, UTG moves all-in for 94.55, Hero moves all-in for 75.00

Hero shows 6s 6h
UTG shows 7s Td

Hero wins 222.55 with Three of a kind, Six's]

I taught for a long time and the combination of the notes i had on him that he pushed with some sort of marginal hands, plus the fact i cant see someone risking people folding TP and 2 pair hands on this board by pushing which led me to think he didnt have the flush although on a rare ocassion ive seen flushes played like this and after all i have a set for god sakes.

hAND 3:

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button ($63.65)
SB ($186.05)
BB ($44.00)
UTG ($34.55)
UTG+1 Hero ($232.30)
CO ($100.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Jh Kh
1 fold, Hero raises to 3.50, 1 fold, SB calls 3.00, BB calls 2.50.

Flop (10.50) 8s Ks 3c
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 7.50, SB calls 7.50, BB calls 7.50.

Turn (33.00) Jd
SB checks, BB moves all-in for 33.00, Hero calls 33.00, SB raises to 66.00, 1 fold.

River (165.00) Ts

BB shows Kc Qc
SB shows Jc Js

SB wins 165.00 with Three of a kind, Jack's

Just taught the SB's min raise here in a big pot screamed of a big hand, i taught about calling but i felt i was already behind to a set of 3's or 8's and calling to fold to a missed 4 outer on the river just didnt seem like a good play. I was getting 4/1 to call and hit a 10/1 shot and i was still only getting 7/1 implied odds so i think if im pretty sure im behind its a fold here.

dvdfan · 27-08-2007 11:11pm

ianmc38 wrote:

2. Looks like a fold. Hands he's showndown in spots like this are important

Not sure if my explanation was good here so you may have misenterpreted me. Basically when someone pushes on me and i call but expect to lose (for eg a set or 2 pair on a flush board) and you know the types that push with muck and leave before you can get a note on them so i quickly type a note like this:

Pushed on my turn on flush board with ???

so if they lose and leave straight away i know they pushed light but dont know what they done it with because i never had the chance to write the rest because by the time the HH was available he done a runner.

You might say thats a bit weird or overboard but i see these hit and run players alot and in this hand alone it has made me a nice few bob so i think its worth it. So in summary i have a note that he pushes light and this was the main reason for me to make the call