Women .... what's your problem??

shakenbake

Seriously, yous are the most uncourteous road users I've ever encountered. You are consistently stingy, mean and almost venemous to other road users. You gaurd the space infront of you like it's your gateway to heaven and have seemingly no generousity for other (male?) drivers.

The odd exception aside, I never encounter the same attitude from bloke drivers. Personally, I'm very courteous to other road users. As long as you're not taking the complete piss I'll let you into my lane, I'll let you out of that corner ... I'll even indicate when I'm using roundabouts!! But women are just plane MEAN.

Does anyone else see this, or is just me?

Personally I think they're so mean because they have a percieved inequality in life and compensate for that by instinctively ****ing men over every chance they get, with their little 'triumphs' for the 'sisterhood'. Valid?

Mena

Huge generalisation. I see the same attitude from both sexes on the road.

Anan1

No comment.:)

shakenbake

There's nothing wrong with generalisations, if they are correct

Volvoboy

shakenbake wrote:

Seriously, yous are the most uncourteous road users I've ever encountered. You are consistently stingy, mean and almost venemous to other road users. You gaurd the space infront of you like it's your gateway to heaven and have seemingly no generousity for other (male?) drivers.

The odd exception aside, I never encounter the same attitude from bloke drivers. Personally, I'm very courteous to other road users. As long as you're not taking the complete piss I'll let you into my lane, I'll let you out of that corner ... I'll even indicate when I'm using roundabouts!! But women are just plane MEAN.

Does anyone else see this, or is just me?

Personally I think they're so mean because they have a percieved inequality in life and compensate for that by instinctively ****ing men over every chance they get, with their little 'triumphs' for the 'sisterhood'. Valid?

Never encounted a unfriendly wimmen driver in my days, personally i think women are more safe drivers than us men, but we can parallel park!:p




-VB-

Atomic Pineapple

now that i think about it men seem to let you out more often when coming onto the m50 although that could be because there are more men driving?

Quint

This reminds me, I've given up letting anyone out at junctions or when changing lanes after about 90% of people decided not to give the wave of light flash. I fine women are the worst offenders.
As for volvo drivers comment, I think when men do something wrong they know they're doing it, but women just do crazy manouvers without even realising it!

Michael G

shakenbake wrote:

Seriously, yous are the most uncourteous road users I've ever encountered. You are consistently stingy, mean and almost venemous to other road users. You gaurd the space in front of you like it's your gateway to heaven and have seemingly no generousity for other (male?) drivers

Have mercy on them. It is a scientific fact that their spatial sense is less developed. That is why they (in their Micras and Corsas) cling to the vehicle in front of them, even if it is a tractor driven by a 90-year-old with dementia. (For that reason they are the main cause of queues.) Let them get past, and wait for a man to let you in.

Gauge

Thanks for bringing this issue to my attention. I'm sure women everywhere would be terribly upset that you have such problems with a gender as a whole. I'll bring it up at the next general meeting and hopefully you'll notice an improvement over the coming weeks.

Oh, by the way, every close call I've had while driving usually involves a male pulling out in front of me without bothering to check for traffic on either side. Perhaps you could address this problem, as they are clearly not isolated incidents, but occur as a result of the male gender's inability to turn their head from side to side while driving, perhaps also because men consider themselves 'superior' drivers who are able to detect oncoming traffic using their superior male senses.

Seriously, what IS your problem?

antodeco

One of the safest drivers Ive ever come across has been a female taxi driver!!

You know the saying, "two wrongs dont make a right".....There are exceptions to the rule of course!

mini Maple

What’s with putting down female drivers??? There are bad UN courteous drivers in both sexes! everyone gets annoyed if people try to get ahead if they have been sitting in bad traffic for hours trying to get home!!!

ballooba

mini Maple wrote:

What’s with putting down female drivers??? There are bad UN courteous drivers in both sexes! everyone gets annoyed if people try to get ahead if they have been sitting in bad traffic for hours trying to get home!!!

There's a difference between queue jumping and negotiating a junction. A bit of courtesy hurts nobody. I agree though poor (discourteous) drivers do come from both sexes.

Quint

Gauge wrote:

Oh, by the way, every close call I've had while driving usually involves a male pulling out in front of me without bothering to check for traffic on either side. Perhaps you could address this problem, as they are clearly not isolated incidents, but occur as a result of the male gender's inability to turn their head from side to side while driving, perhaps also because men consider themselves 'superior' drivers who are able to detect oncoming traffic using their superior male senses.

Are you sure you weren't pulling off a slip road and the man was on the main road? You probably stalled the car and got confused

Gillie

There are some Extremely poor drivers out there.
Both Women and Men.

kittex

Volvoboy wrote:

Never encounted a unfriendly wimmen driver in my days, personally i think women are more safe drivers than us men, but we can parallel park!:p

Oh yeah, rub our noses in it! :mad:

It's so true...:p

ToxicPaddy

There was a survey on this a while back.. Its not all women apparently..
Just women who are mid forties plus and usually ones who have successful careers..

From what they found, they had spent so much of their career fighting tooth and nail for what they got, they refuse to giv up anything, including any space in front of their cars on motorways, wont let you over take them as they feel like you're skipping the queue and wont let you into traffic from a junction as again you're taking what place is theirs.

Seems like a few here have experienced it..

I've experienced it from guys too, so not just the women who do it

Tox

Senna

Quint wrote:

I think when men do something wrong they know they're doing it, but women just do crazy manouvers without even realising it!

bit of truth to this. Men do stupid and dangerous things but could probably tell you afterwards exactly what they done wrong. More woman seem to just go into a cocoon when driving badly and block out everything and everyone around them.

Who's worse, the person that knows there driving badly (but will tell you they knew it was safe) or the person that doesn't realize their driving badly?

_Kaiser_

Have to agree that a lot of times that I let a woman out of a junction, there's no wave or flash of the hazards in response.. manners ladies!! :rolleyes: A man is similarly more likely to let you out I've found.

Women (and white van drivers) seem to be the ones that are always holding the phones too while driving.

Maybe this thread belongs in BGRH?

Balfa

I have to admit, I somewhat agree with the OP about women in Ireland. In my experience, men are more courteous. And it's not just that I'm a bloke. I've noticed when my sisters or ma are driving that women seem to be even meaner toward each other than they are to men.

It's different over here though, men are more likely to be pricks, while women are just airheaded.

quarryman

yep agree here. while not always the case women seem to be pretty greedy when it comes to the space in front of them.

oh they're happy if you let them out just don't expect them to return the favour to anyone...

again this isn't always the case but i see it a lot less with men.

McSandwich

I was walking back to my car in the supermarket car park yesterday when I noticed someone pulling into the space next to me. The driver parked well over the white line and close enough to my car so that I could not open the door. When I said it to the driver, she looked at me like I did something wrong and just walked away without reply...

I'm not saying that a man would not be capable of the same thing but I've never experienced such a lack of consideration from another driver.

um7y1h83ge06nx

I have an interesting one.

I know 2 paramedics who people would agree need the utmost courtesy given to them when they have an emergency and for people to allow them through traffic.

Both of them agree, and 1 is a woman, that women are the worst drivers on the road from their point of view. A lot either refuse or at very slow to make way for them every when they have an opportunity.

lassykk

wow i expected this post to have got a stronger reaction than it did.

personally ive had mixed experience wit this.. i travel a lot both as a passenger and a driver.. personally i feel much safer in the car with the male drivers compared to the female. now this could be just a coincidence but i feel that the male drivers are more aware of whats happening around them and seem to be more focused on the road.

on the other hand i was recently in an accident with a lady driver and despite it being her fault she was exceptionally courteous and sorted everything out with minimal fuss. When a male driver ploughed in to me 2 years ago i was afforded no such courtesy and had to fork out for the damage caused myself.

i also drove a motorbike for 2 years and as anyone who has driven one must be aware just how "nice" motorists are to bike drivers. This is not a male/female thing its just anyone. On balance though more male drivers did give me space to filter and more ladies did pull out under me at junctions. However male drivers were much more agressive if you were keeping to the speed limit and they couldn't force their way past you.

GTC

From experience, women drivers are the least capable, but are very aware of their limitations. Men are more capable, but seem to get very cocky very quickly.

Men are more spatially aware, but are too cocky, women are (in general) hopeless at distances and widths of gaps, but are more careful (in general) and have (in general) many small accidents (low speed) compared to men, who usually have a few catastrophes in their time!!

Actually, reading over this, it seems more complicated than I thought!
From the last few years in Traffic, the ones who cause the most holdups and problems for us are predominantly female. The most tickets for careless driving and yield offences etc. are female drivers. Speeding is mostly male. I'm open to correction if someone has the latest penalty points figures.

Theboinkmaster

I think the appalling driving in this country is not weighted to one sex above the other - both are as bad, but in different ways

I have noticed however young women becoming more aggressive on the roads - alot more so than 5 years ago even (can we blame the spice girls )

prospect

I'm going to make a small bit of a generalisation here:

I find bad men and women drivers are in equal quantities, (which is worrying because there are more male drivers on the road!)

I find that when a male driver does something stupid or dangerous it is usually a conscious decision, or an agressive manouvre.

I find that when a female driver does something stupid or dangerous it is usually because they are unaware of what is going on in their enviornment. They are usually too busy gossiping with an passenger or daydreaming to be paying attention to the road.

\m/_(>_<)_\m/

shakenbake wrote:

Seriously, yous are the most uncourteous road users I've ever encountered. You are consistently stingy, mean and almost venemous to other road users.

you sound suppressed..... why would you expect them to be any different on the road...

i went shopping with my wife once....holysh/t.
the way they guard their line down that isle with that weapon known as a shopping trolley... and god help you if you get in the way of the frozen foods.

astrofool

was recently turning right on the crossover at Cherrywood (to go down the sliproad northbound on the N11), lights went green but there was a woman driver still about 100metres away showing no signs of stopping, luckily I decide to wait and see if she's going to attempt to stop (I had pulled forward and turned the nose right slightly at this stage, but was still on my side of the junction in safety), and sure enough she goes flying through the junction, over the speed limit (about 90 in a 60 zone), and had finally noticed the very red light just as she hit the junction and was trying to apologise (moving her hands and her head in an "oh my gosh I didn't realise I could have killed some people) as she sped through the red light junction.

Owen

Us lads are convinced we rule the Tarmac, and that's a huge failing. But having said that, my better half can't park to save her life. I've even fitted blind spot mirrors to show her the kerb against her rear wheels, and fitted parking sensors. It's still an emotionally rollercoaster when it comes time to park it up.

Caliden

I find young males and construction/trade workers the most courteous.
Sorry to generalise but have to agree that most women wouldnt give you an inch.

mike65

This just happened to me and I really do think only a person of the distaff persuasion would have done this (or an OAP).

I was on the Outer Ring Road down here which is a dual carraigeway, young woman in car approaching from behind angled her head to the right to see past me She did'nt check her rear view mirrors as far as I could tell.

Mike.

Stark

I think Dublin drivers in general are desperate for furiously guarding their road space. It's something I don't notice half as much in Cork and it's something people from Cork always comment to me on if they're in a car in Dublin.

\m/_(>_<)_\m/

Stark wrote:

I think Dublin drivers in general are desperate for furiously guarding their road space. It's something I don't notice half as much in Cork and it's something people from Cork always comment to me on if they're in a car in Dublin.

i have to agree, Dublin drivers seem to be a bit less mannerly, down here i have no problem being let out or in, people are more friendly and polite on the road...

jameshayes

I always try to let people turn infront of me if they're turning right, i know it slows down traffic on the far side of the road, and I know what it's like to be stuck in this traffic!!

If only everyone would just slow down and let them turn(check your mirrors for cyclists first!!) it would make everyones life easier!

Gran Hermano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39qdhbkTko4

'nuff said

Anan1

jameshayes wrote:

I always try to let people turn infront of me if they're turning right, i know it slows down traffic on the far side of the road, and I know what it's like to be stuck in this traffic!!

That's grand, provided you're not doing it at the expense of the cars behind you.

pow wow

lol after reading the original post I went out to the shops and was more 'courteous' than usual by letting people pass when the obstrcution was on their side etc. and flashing people to cross in front of me.

I have to say not one man waved me thank you or anything. The women did.

But then I'm a girl so what would I know right?

stevenmu

In general I've found less women let me pull out, but the ones who do often seem to go further out of their way to do it, men seem to let people out more, but only if it's not really holding them up in any meaningful way.

RobAMerc

I find women are generally to busy struggling to control the car themselves to think about letting other people into the traffic - thats why they rarely notice anything else going on either, they are to busy driving the car i.e. using the controls etc to drive the car i.e. maneuver through traffic.

I once saw a woman holding up an Ambulance for about 10 mins on the M50 and only pulled out of its way when her off ramp came. ( but thats how we drive in Ireland - keep right till its your turn off.)

Marcus.Aurelius

\m/_(>_<)_\m/ wrote:

i have to agree, Dublin drivers seem to be a bit less mannerly, down here i have no problem being let out or in, people are more friendly and polite on the road...

What?? C, W, WD, KY, TS, TN and KK regs never let anyone pass them and rarely let anyone out of junctions. They're obnoxious (in general). WX drivers are the most courteous that I've encountered, nearly always let you pass them and always letting a car out while in traffic.

Tweaky

maoleary wrote:

What?? C, W, WD, KY, TS, TN and KK regs never let anyone pass them and rarely let anyone out of junctions. They're obnoxious (in general). WX drivers are the most courteous that I've encountered, nearly always let you pass them and always letting a car out while in traffic.

The WX cars are all rental cars driven by people from countries where the bad driving habits we see on our roads don't exist.

prospect

Tweaky wrote:

The WX cars are all rental cars driven by people from countries where the bad driving habits we see on our roads don't exist.

Awww such a sweet innocent naive little mind.

You go on believing that every other country in the world has perfect drivers.

Anan1

ellscurr wrote:

lol after reading the original post I went out to the shops and was more 'courteous' than usual by letting people pass when the obstrcution was on their side etc. and flashing people to cross in front of me.

I have to say not one man waved me thank you or anything. The women did.

But then I'm a girl so what would I know right?

This is an interesting one. To turn in to where I live, I generally have to make a right turn on a busy road. I have a small turn right lane, in which I sit waiting for a gap in the traffic. I am constantly surprised by the number of oncoming drivers who slow to a stop, bringing all the traffic behind them to a halt, to let me cross. These people are quite frankly too selfish/stupid to be driving, and the last thing i'd do is further encourage them by thanking them.

ballooba

Anan1 wrote:

I am constantly surprised by the number of oncoming drivers who slow to a stop, bringing all the traffic behind them to a halt, to let me cross. These people are quite frankly too selfish/stupid to be driving, and the last thing i'd do is further encourage them by thanking them.

:eek:

prospect

ballooba wrote:

:eek:

I know,
I see this regularly, people coming to a complete stop in the middle of flowing traffic on a main road, just to be corteous to another driver. This is taking it too far imo.

astrofool

ellscurr wrote:

lol after reading the original post I went out to the shops and was more 'courteous' than usual by letting people pass when the obstrcution was on their side etc. and flashing people to cross in front of me.

I have to say not one man waved me thank you or anything. The women did.

But then I'm a girl so what would I know right?

You shouldn't be waving to anyone, if you get in an accident while waving, you'll be held liable as you weren't in control of the vehicle. Politest thing to do is to be courteous when driving yourself.

On saying that, my mother can't help herself but to wave thank you, wimmin!

BrianD3

I agree with prospect and Anan1, a lot of stupid, pointless "misplaced courtesy" on the roads.

The worst is when someone is turning right out of a side road and the car coming from their right stops dead to let them out even though there is traffic behidn them and traffic coming the other way. The driver pulling out moves out halfway, traffic coming the other way now feels obliged to stop and let him complete his maneouvre. The end result is two lanes of traffic are inconvenienced just so someone can get a warm fuzzy feeling from doing their good deed for the day :rolleyes:

Seth Brundle

Following a complaint, may I remind posters that gender bashng isn't allowed on boards!

Vikings

I usually apply a 'first to the junction' type rule to my driving. Heard it first over in the U.S and it just kind of stuck with me since.

If there is a car at the same junction as me who arrived at it before I did then I will do what I can to let them through depending on the situation of course.

I agree with whats been said above about stopping a line of traffic to let out a car waiting to turn right coming the other way, it should not be done. I don't however have a problem with slowing down by say 10km and allowing a sufficient gap to appear between the car in front of yours so that the car you have seen waiting to turn can slip in between, if they want to wait then it is up to them. I will do this from time to time if I see a car that has been waiting a while to make a turn.

@astrofool, lifting 2 fingers from your steering wheel is hardly losing control of your vehicle. I have yet to see anybody giving a Soccer AM style wave for being let out of a junction!

Leeby

All I can say is I'm a woman and the only time in my life I didn't flash the emergency lights when someone let me in is in my first two weeks of driving and I didn't know what it meant when people did that. I knew after that, I always do it, and I always let people in unless they've been bootin it up the buslane past loads of traffic only to expect to be let in at the top.

I'd like to ask the OP what he thinks about the whole thing of young men generally getting higher insurance than young women, it must be great making a sweeping generalisation after one or two incidents that have annoyed you recently but I'm sure you hate the sweeping generalisation that as a young male you must be a little boy racer.

Anan1

Leeby wrote:

I'd like to ask the OP what he thinks about the whole thing of young men generally getting higher insurance than young women, it must be great making a sweeping generalisation after one or two incidents that have annoyed you recently but I'm sure you hate the sweeping generalisation that as a young male you must be a little boy racer.

I'm inclined towards agreeing with this sweeping generalisation too.