5/10 deep,oop with AA

robinlacey

villain in this hand is about 25/22,and seems pretty agressive. he's floated me and raised my cbets,and a while ago i flat called his 3bet from the blinds when i was in position,the flop came JT4 with a flush draw and he check raised me and i folded.i'm starting to get sick of him to be honest.

2k effective stacks,i raise AA in the cutoff,he calls on the button,everyone else folds.

flop 9 3 8 with two diamonds,i bet 66 and he calls. (i don't have the Ad)

turn is a T,doesn't complete the flush draw. i bet 150,he makes it 390,i call (?)

river is a 5,no diamond,i check,he bets 1k.

Daithio

I think I call here. The turn raise looks to me like a semi bluff with a FD raising small so as to look strong. Considering how he has been playing I think you have him beaten here plenty. The main thing I would be worried about is 9T.

bottom feeder

even tho i dont play these stakes this is a tuff bloody spot to be in, sounds like he's really testing you robin and using his position on you - also because you have folded to him on a few occasions he probably thinks he can keep pushing you.
i think the call on the turn is fine, and i would probably call the river [another 1k to win 3k?] hoping the fu@ktard has missed his flushdraw, maybe thats because im a big fish...!

bops

he didn't flop a set/2 pair - he would have raised your flop bet
he doesn't have a busted FD - he wouldn't have raised you OTT, he may have OTF

the most likely hand that beats you is the nuts - JQ - or 67s maybe - he called the flop bet and hit, he raised your turn bet to build a pot, possibly puting you on a FD - (your line looks like one to me)

the river bet is a bit tricky - it is either the nuts, thinking that his aggressive image will get him paid - or it's air - i can't seeing it being anything else

i would lean towards air - only because he would possibly value bet here with the straight, but it would be a common sized bet for a bluff...it just depends how tricky you think he is!!

...maybe betting the river would have given you more info cheaper?? - i guess you had plans on check calling, but calling a slightly smaller bet?

i like his bet here if he has the straight, i also think it's a pretty good bet if he has air - he's asking the question properly!!

i'm gonna stick with my gut and say air - KT to be precise

gl

phantom_lord

he'd raise more on the turn and bet less on the river with missed draws/air right? i think it's a fold, since i don't think you're ahead enough to call a psb. although i'm nitty since i play in much more passive games.

cardshark202

I don't know how you play, but if its possible he can put you on a big overpair here alot it doesn't seem like a good spot to bluff.

Van Dice

ugggghhh, standard line is to disconnect the river?!!

AKQJ10

Daithio wrote:

I think I call here. The turn raise looks to me like a semi bluff with a FD raising small so as to look strong. Considering how he has been playing I think you have him beaten here plenty. The main thing I would be worried about is 9T.

Agree with this but i dont think 9T plays it this way. I call

Hectorjelly

Your description makes me want to call, but id like to have seen him play other hands. That turn raise doesnt really look like its designed for you to fold; but to really know what it means id like to know what level of thinking he is on. Anyway given the description im calling. I think when you are beat you are often looking at JQ

mdwexford

i think id find a call, you've given him a chance to bluff on the river by checking and you've under represented your hand to an extent as well. he might think you just double barrelled with air and gave up on the river and thinks its a good spot to bluff.

id be worried about 6-7 and 9-10 but i think given reads a call here is profitable against this villain.

insafehands

robinlacey wrote:

he bets 1k.

lol.

Moneymaker

From your decription of the villian I think I find a call here.

nicnicnic

robinlacey wrote:

.i'm starting to get sick of him to be honest.

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me to

cardshark202

Its the bet sizing that makes me want to fold here

Goodluck2me

cardshark202 wrote:

Its the bet sizing that makes me want to fold here

bound to be a bit of third level thinking goin on here too, he knows that bluffing after a missed flush draw is so obvious and so im sure they will often take a different approach for deception.

MrPillowTalk

I think your line looks like an overpair, but given your description I think I call here.

ZZR1100

i would fold. he knows you have a hand after calling the turn raise which isn't trying to get u to fold and he aslo (probably knows) that you are getting sick of him.So his bet on the river can be higher than a normal value bet as a result -- 67 im thinking

RoundTower

I fold and feel I got outplayed. I'm guessing you did the same.

ianmc38

With history I would fold as he knows it's more likely you're going to look him up lightly.

bops

lately, my biggest leak (well my only leak coz i rock) is patience....

WTF HAPPENED??

...if your gone on holidays or somethin Robin i will hunt you down!!

EDIT: just to add if you folded i will also do the above
EDIT (2): i have just discovered a second leak - curiousity - fk im an impatient station!!

robinlacey

well i'm glad i don't have all of you at my tables!

i was the villain here,i had A5s for a flush draw.i don't know if he had AA or not because he folded,but that was the best hand i was realistically trying to get him to fold.

i've changed my game recently so that i'm bluffing less,but following through more when i raise on a bluff.this is why the bet sizing on the turn is a little small,i'm trying to never raise without leaving enough room to continue on on the next street. (unless raising all in wouldn't be ridiculous of course)

i think with the games being so agressive these days everyone knows people are raising flops light,so you have to be prepared for them to call once with most hands with showdown value.with this in mind my raises have generally gotten a little smaller.

i've been finding all this very good so far,although obviously my sample size is tiny and i'm going more on a general impression than anything else.

in this hand i got away with it but felt that maybe i was pushing it a little so i thought i'd post it.i'm still not entirely sure what to think,most people here would call but AA is at the top of the range of hands i was trying to fold out,he could easily have had QT or A9 or something.

BigCityBanker

What do you raise to preflop? 35 or 30? if 35 then...

85 in the middle and you bet 66 and he calls.

217 in there on the turn and you bet 150?

Is your bet sizing not a tad off? if not then will u take a moment to explain them to me?

robinlacey

well this is one of those bizarro hands,i was actually the villain.

having said that,i would usually only bet around 3/4 of the pot,betting the pot all the time makes things escalate a bit too quickly for my liking,especially out of position,and also i like my frequent second barrells to be cheaper!

BigCityBanker

ty^^

sikes

robinlacey wrote:

also i like my frequent second barrells to be cheaper!

but you dont win as much!

robinlacey

lol,true

really i just mean that i like to be fairly active at the table,and betting the full pot all the time is going to give me slightly less room to manouver.

i think its more of a personal preference to do with my style of play than anything else...