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black donnellys on network 2 tonight

  • 14-08-2007 10:30am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,797 ✭✭✭


    first episode at 11.20


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭The Sparrow


    oh cool... cheers for that. I watched the first two episodes earlier this year and would like to see more!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Does this mean that RTÉ will show the full season? It was cancelled by NBC for those who don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    13 made, so I'm sure they'll show all of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,814 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    I tried to like it but nothing happened so I gave up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    but since cancelled does that not mean likley no ending? or even worse a TBC on the level of SAAB


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭idlesupernova


    Is it as good as 'Brotherhood'? Im counting the days until season two of that show, This might tide me over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    ^^ NO but its watchable, the first episode is great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Does Kirk Acevedo play a big part in this show?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    Is it as good as 'Brotherhood'? Im counting the days until season two of that show, This might tide me over.

    Brotherhood is in a whole other league of quality. Which really pisses me off, as they'll show this, but for some reason won't bother with the better show. It'd fit perfectly into that Thursday night slot left vacant by The Sopranos.

    F*ckin' RTÉ.:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Perhaps someone else picked up Irish rights to Brotherhood. Good show.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭idlesupernova


    Channel 6 showed Brotherhood.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    That solves that mystery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭neacy69


    Does Kirk Acevedo play a big part in this show?

    Yeah he plays nicky cottero

    So what did we all think of the first episode?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I flicked it off about half way through. It just didn't do anything for me. It was trying too hard to be wacky and it just ruined it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭Double C


    I saw potential when I saw both Alverez and Nappa from Oz, but this was short lived when I saw the rest of the show!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    I liked the first episode. I thought it shows potential. Hopefully RTÉ shows all 13 episodes. Does anyone know if the 13th episode wraps everything up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Don't think it has ever been shown anywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    bit slow to start with, was nearly going to switch it off, glad i didn't hope the rest is good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    I didn't see a single ad or mention of this show from rte. I just happened to catch it during an ad-break of a film I was watching on tg4 last night. It took about 10 seconds for me to realise what it was (Which is strange because I never saw it, but I read up about it a long time ago). I checked aertel and sure enough it was the Black Donnellys, but of course I didn't know if it was the first episode or not. **** rte. Shower of ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭idlesupernova


    A mob show for The OC watchers, horrible, shambolic. Glad it was cancelled. They show this over Brotherhood!!! Michael Caffee would have took care of those brothers in one go. Awful horrible show.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    A mob show for The OC watchers, horrible, shambolic. Glad it was cancelled. They show this over Brotherhood!!!

    Have another read over the thread and you will see that the Irish rights are held by Channel 6. How graphic do you expect a show made by NBC to be?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭BAZM8


    didn't hear anythin about it being on... no ads nothing.

    Any one know if they are repeating it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    RTÉ 2 repeats for shows like this are usually shown late on Friday or Saturday nights, have a look in the tv listings or on aertel. I reckon it'll be repeated on Saturdays at some stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Doesn't seem to be any repeat for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭datk


    User45701 wrote:
    but since cancelled does that not mean likley no ending? or even worse a TBC on the level of SAAB

    you may find you don't care how it ends up. I watched about six episodes but couldn't get into it properly. I think the show was pulled from TV but the remaining episodes were available download so I think it has some sort of ending.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭pokerwidow


    Jesus I must have terrible taste because I thought the pilot was brilliant :o
    It sucks about it not having a good ending, I hate when that happens. RTE better show the full 13.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    pokerwidow wrote:
    Jesus I must have terrible taste because I thought the pilot was brilliant :o
    It sucks about it not having a good ending, I hate when that happens. RTE better show the full 13.

    Nah, you've got taste, because I too liked it and I definitely have taste.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    I too loved it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭ekevosu


    I think the last five minutes of the show really made that first episode, from the snow patrol song on, great ending, really sets it up. I've only seen the first two episodes, second one was okay I thought so I'll reserve judgement. I haven't seen brotherhood so I can't compare them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭idlesupernova


    It's not belivable in the slightest, Those brothers are not exactly going to put the fear of god into you are they!? The new head of the neighbourhood is a college boy art student about 20 yrs old. They look like a bunch of kids in a Frames tribute band. He takes out the Italian and Irish bosses in one swoop:confused:

    Go back and watch the first Sopranos episode, you know then Tony is someone you would be afraid of, Look at Michael Caffe in the first episode of Brotherhood, not going to mess with him either. Then look at this piece of ****. As I said it's a wanna be mob show for teens, Thankfully it was dropped after a few episodes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    ekevosu wrote:
    I think the last five minutes of the show really made that first episode, from the snow patrol song on, great ending, really sets it up. I've only seen the first two episodes, second one was okay I thought so I'll reserve judgement. I haven't seen brotherhood so I can't compare them.

    The orginal pilot had the Arcade Fire song Rebellion (Lies) instead of that over played over rated snow patrol song. It worked a lot a better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    tvnutz wrote:
    The orginal pilot had the Arcade Fire song Rebellion (Lies) instead of that over played over rated snow patrol song. It worked a lot a better.
    It was far better that way. Why did they have to fúck with the music? Snow Patrol seem to be in everything these days, they're more commercialised than Moby.

    I thought that The Black Donnellys was very good, no Sopranos, but still good. I'd say it was pretty close to Brotherhood even, certainly not as bad as some are making it out to be.

    However, I wouldn't recommend anyone watch it. It got cancelled by NBC so it doesn't end, it just stops. You won't find out anything by the end and if you like it that'll píss you off. If you don't like it then you'll also be píssed off that you watched the show. So no one should watch it, it'll only leave you annoyed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    jor el wrote:
    However, I wouldn't recommend anyone watch it. It got cancelled by NBC so it doesn't end, it just stops. You won't find out anything by the end and if you like it that'll píss you off.

    Have you seen all the episodes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    jor el wrote:
    It was far better that way. Why did they have to fúck with the music? Snow Patrol seem to be in everything these days, they're more commercialised than Moby.

    I thought that The Black Donnellys was very good, no Sopranos, but still good. I'd say it was pretty close to Brotherhood even, certainly not as bad as some are making it out to be.

    However, I wouldn't recommend anyone watch it. It got cancelled by NBC so it doesn't end, it just stops. You won't find out anything by the end and if you like it that'll píss you off. If you don't like it then you'll also be píssed off that you watched the show. So no one should watch it, it'll only leave you annoyed.

    There is an ending. Whether RTÉ show it or not is a different question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭ekevosu


    tvnutz wrote:
    The orginal pilot had the Arcade Fire song Rebellion (Lies) instead of that over played over rated snow patrol song. It worked a lot a better.

    I hadn't really heard that snow patrol song very much before or never noticed it anyway so I liked it. It may have been a way to add a bit of oirishness to the episode, damien rice is in there somewhere as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭stakey


    It's just about watchable, i watched the whole (one) season and by the end of it there really wasn't much more they could do with the storyline. It was way to thin and becoming too drawn out for such a weak story. The main character annoyed the hell out of me too...

    In reality, if anyone clipped a made guy there'd be no questions asked, these guys would've been made to disappear by the end of the first episode!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 669 ✭✭✭pid()


    Just noticed this was on tonight. Raging, I never saw any ads for it!! Best show ever in my opinion. None of my mates have seen it and it's a balls to watch it without seeing the first episode. Oh well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    I was a bit confused by the end of the second episode.
    When Joey goes, "Tommy vowed there'd never be a reason good enough to kill again... Too bad he didn't tell Jenny that." - What the f*&k is that supposed to mean?
    Speaking of Jenny, Olivia Wilde is hot. If you agree, watch Alpha Dog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭idlesupernova


    Perfect review
    The Black Donnellys': A pretentious mishmash of cliches
    Let me be clear at the outset: I have no problem with a TV show depicting Irish-Americans as drunks, drug-takers, murderers and criminals.

    “The Sopranos,” a series that could have been a laundry list of clichés about Italian-Americans, is one of the most profound meditations on morality and greed in any artistic medium. So an ambitious show that depicts my fellow Irish-Americans as complicated, interesting drunks, drug-takers, murderers and criminals is fine by me.

    This pretentious mishmash is a paint-by-numbers Irish-American “Sopranos” ripoff that chronicles the misdeeds of four brothers on the mean streets of New York City.

    How many means streets, one might inquire, does New York have left? Aren’t they often lined with rehabbed brownstones and condo conversions these days?

    But this series asks us to believe that an Irish-American gangster would, in the shadow of Greenwich Village’s Washington Square Park, muse about his troubles with the local Italian mobsters. “Hughie took over the neighborhood from Old Man Mulligan,” the show’s narrator, Joey Ice Cream, helpfully explains. (That’s neighborhood as in “nay-bah-hood,” ya know?)

    Joey Ice Cream? An Irish mob boss within spitting distance of multiple Starbucks? A bookie named Louie Downtown? Perhaps that’s all meant to be “colorful,” but most of the details on “The Black Donnellys” feel too retro and ring false. This show is more artificial than a bowl of Lucky Charms.

    There are yet more lazy clichés: The saga of this clan also includes a raven-haired lass, Jenny Reilly (Olivia Wilde) who not only pines for Tommy Donnelly but cleans blood off the steps of his downmarket bar for him. And there’s Tommy’s (and Sean’s and Jimmy’s and Kevin’s) tough-talking Irish mama and more fights (and wakes) at that Donnelly’s bar than you will have the energy to count.

    Honestly, all this series is missing is Bing Crosby as a sad-eyed local priest and Jimmy Cagney shouting, “Top of the world, Ma!”

    If only. Instead, we’re stuck with the four Donnelly brothers, who are nearly interchangeable (they could have stuck a Declan or a Paddy in there and I would have hardly noticed). Jonathan Tucker manages to give the lead brother, Tommy, a compellingly mournful aura despite the show’s thin writing, but it’s uphill work.

    After all, this is a show that puts a Yeats quote on the opening credits of one episode, but then has a character utter a line such as this about the title family: “It’s like something is in their blood … it poisons whatever it touches.”

    Though the plots are complicated, they’re not involving. Very little happens in this show that isn’t easy to predict, and the occasional energetic sequences are offset by ponderously long scenes that go nowhere.

    This series also employs one of my TV pet peeves: A shocking lack of lighting. It’s actually difficult to see what’s going on in some scenes, there’s so little light. My response to this “cinematic” trend on TV: Turn a freaking light on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Mossy Monk wrote:
    Have you seen all the episodes?
    Yep, watched all 13 of them, including the original episode 3 that was web only. Don't know if RTE are showing that one. I didn't see anything too brutal about it, but it was NBC I suppose.
    There is an ending. Whether RTÉ show it or not is a different question.
    OK, there is an end as in it's over, but there isn't a finish, it just stops (quite in the middle of things).

    I do think it was worth watching (because I've seen it) but it was ultimately disappointing in the end which is why I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Lots of people think it's crap, and those who are enjoying it will not be best pleased with the lack of closure in the end.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Just finished watching the series

    Seemed to have potential and the ending of the first episode was fantastic

    And then it get steadily got worse.

    Not a patch on Brotherhood. And realy, the leader is an Art student? Michael Caffee would finish him in seconds.

    Worth a watch and I'll agree that the series ending was disappointing. Not suprised it got cancelled


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