A few hands from Connies 250

ocallagh

a few hands from connie's game I am unsure of. 2 of these hands worked out well, but I don't know if I played any of them well.

1) This was intended to be a squeeze play, but once it didn't work out it turned into an odd value merge semi bluff or something.... not quite sure to be honest. The table has been playing very tight. UTG and Button are two of the tightest and won't go broke without close to the nuts on the flop or KK/AA pre. SB is willing to mix it up a bit. I've been playing regular TAG, but have had a few good hands so it might appear I am playing looser than I am.

UTG (8k) Limps for 150
Button (7k) calls 150
SB (7k) calls 75
I (22k) check on the BB with A8o

Flop (600) AdKc6d
SB checks
I check
UTG checks
Button bets 400
SB calls 400
I make it 1200 (comments?)
UTG folds
Button calls 1200
SB calls 1200

Turn (4200) 6s
SB checks
I bet 2500. Yes/No?


2) BB is a very good TAG. He will make moves, and he did so against a button raiser earlier in the night with KJ. He called and c/raised allin on QT flop. He has been card dead all night and while generally patient, he is clearly frustrated. I have been getting a lot of playable hands and have raised most of them, broadways pairs sc's Ax etc etc. A few orbits previously I had AQ and made it 1800 at 300-600. He made it 6k and I folded. I get AQo again in the same position 2 orbits later. Blinds 400-800 and I make it 3200. Folded to BB who thinks and shoves for another 17k. I have close to 40k left. Avg stack roughly 30k. Fold/Call?

3) 11 players left. 6 handed. Blinds 1k/2k with a 200 ante. Average is 45k but all the chips are on the other table, our table average is about 30k. I have 70k or so and have been playing quite aggresive both preflop and on the flop. Villain has 45k or so. He's only been at the table 30 minutes but in that period we have clashed about 5 times. My image in general is LAG and possibly a bit tilty. He is playing loose enough and has called a few of my raises oop. I don't know if he is a good player or not.

Folded to me on Button with 5d6d. Villain is BB.
I make it 6k (?)
SB folds
BB calls

Flop (15k) J82 all black.
Villain checks
I bet 8k (?)
Villain calls

Turn (31k) Qr
Villain checks
I check after some thought but I got the feeling he wasn't too happy with the hand.

River (31k) A
Villain checks after 5 seconds or so. He has just under 30k left.
Another barrel or give up? If we bluff, how much?

Theresalwaysone

Hand1: I raise more on the flop 1600-2000. And yeah as played ~2500 sounds good.

Hand2:Fold

Hand3: I like the raise, open limping is weak.
8k= Standard C-bet
I have a feeling he is fairly weak and you havent provided any reads to the contrary. I bet ~23k.

mdwexford

Hand 1 - i definintely raise more on the flop, about 2400
i like the turn bet, no way im checking there

Hand 2 - tough one, i think i call, but im not happy about it

Hand 3 - you played if fine but id give it up on the river, even if he had 9-10 on the flop it got there and with your image you will probably get looked up pretty light

Flushdraw

Hand 1: As others said, i would make it 2200/2400 if i'm going to try a squeeze play here. Your opponents should put you on 1 of 3 hands. A6, K6 or 66. Theyre the only hands that make sense for a CR here. The fact they all hung around means theres probably a bigger ace and a flushdraw out there.

When the 6 hits the turn, youre right to bet. If your read on UTG and the button is correct, they should give up their hands expecting them to be no good. The only question now is if the SB has the 6 or not

Hand 2: What position are you in? If its the cut off, he might see it as a steal so he has a chance to take down 4k in chips by making the move. He also knows your capable of laying down a decent hand here so i like his bet, especially as he's getting no cards.

Its 17k to win 21k and the amount of times he has AJ- or a smaller pair would lean me towards a call. If you lose, you still have 23k so youre still in good shape but winning gives you 60k+ and a good shot and going deep

Hand 3: You said you clashed with the villian about 5 times and he called your raises OOP but how did the betting go on the flop and what way did the hands play out. This would be really important in how i play this hand. Theres 30k in the pot that you have no chance of winning if you check. the villian has shown no willingness to take it either so i'd definetly fire a third barrel of 20k and the ace is the perfect card for it

Hitman Actual

Hand 1: I hate all your possible options on that flop. I suppose a squeeze is as good as any play, but trying to get 3 players to fold here is tough, especially seeing as the loosest guy is the last to act to your raise. Once you get action I think you're done with the hand.

Hand 2: With your laggy image and LP 'steal', and the fact that it looks like the BB knows how to play good push-style tournament poker, I think it's a call (assuming you have no problem taking shots as an 11/10 favourite, which I'd say you are against his range here).

Hand 3: How often do you think he'll fold? I think it's just a straight maths question here.

connie147

ocallagh wrote:

a few hands from connie's game I am unsure of. 2 of these hands worked out well, but I don't know if I played any of them well.

1) This was intended to be a squeeze play, but once it didn't work out it turned into an odd value merge semi bluff or something.... not quite sure to be honest. The table has been playing very tight. UTG and Button are two of the tightest and won't go broke without close to the nuts on the flop or KK/AA pre. SB is willing to mix it up a bit. I've been playing regular TAG, but have had a few good hands so it might appear I am playing looser than I am.

UTG (8k) Limps for 150
Button (7k) calls 150
SB (7k) calls 75
I (22k) check on the BB with A8o

Flop (600) AdKc6d
SB checks
I check
UTG checks
Button bets 400
SB calls 400
I make it 1200 (comments?)
UTG folds
Button calls 1200
SB calls 1200

Turn (4200) 6s
SB checks
I bet 2500. Yes/No?


2) BB is a very good TAG. He will make moves, and he did so against a button raiser earlier in the night with KJ. He called and c/raised allin on QT flop. He has been card dead all night and while generally patient, he is clearly frustrated. I have been getting a lot of playable hands and have raised most of them, broadways pairs sc's Ax etc etc. A few orbits previously I had AQ and made it 1800 at 300-600. He made it 6k and I folded. I get AQo again in the same position 2 orbits later. Blinds 400-800 and I make it 3200. Folded to BB who thinks and shoves for another 17k. I have close to 40k left. Avg stack roughly 30k. Fold/Call?

3) 11 players left. 6 handed. Blinds 1k/2k with a 200 ante. Average is 45k but all the chips are on the other table, our table average is about 30k. I have 70k or so and have been playing quite aggresive both preflop and on the flop. Villain has 45k or so. He's only been at the table 30 minutes but in that period we have clashed about 5 times. My image in general is LAG and possibly a bit tilty. He is playing loose enough and has called a few of my raises oop. I don't know if he is a good player or not.

Folded to me on Button with 5d6d. Villain is BB.
I make it 6k (?)
SB folds
BB calls

Flop (15k) J82 all black.
Villain checks
I bet 8k (?)
Villain calls

Turn (31k) Qr
Villain checks
I check after some thought but I got the feeling he wasn't too happy with the hand.

River (31k) A
Villain checks after 5 seconds or so. He has just under 30k left.
Another barrel or give up? If we bluff, how much?

Hi Niall,
On hand 3, I'm pretty sure I know the player you tangled with. He's a very aggressive player but not someone who'd be considered a good player . And if he has any piece of it, he'll probably look you up light. Not a player I'd try to bluff, the oppossite actually, if you ever find yourself on a table with him again,just over bet with big hands, he'll call most times.Because I know who he is and his capabilities,Id give it up on the river.

On hand 2, Ive a feeling I know that player even better so really, I shouldnt comment:)

On hand 1, I also raise more for a squeeze play if I'm gonna do it. I like 2200 on the flop but like someone else said,you are tring to take 3 people off the hand.

Hitman Actual

How did these hands play out, Niall? Am I the only one interested?!

kryogen

i have been wondering why people always want to know the results of hands posted here?? is it for the purpose of results based thinking or are you genuinely interested? im not trolling btw

just interested myself to know whether i am alone in thinking that results dont matter when discussing a hand or the correct line in a hand.

Hitman Actual

I'm genuinely interested for a couple of reasons: ocallagh is a very good tournament player and I like to know the lines he takes, and his reasons for making them, and I want to see if I'm way off in my own replies.

ocallagh

sorry, each time I went to reply to these I ended up getting lost in other threads!

Hand 1:
The flop is key in this hand. Each action by all 3 players completely changed the value of my hand.

Preflop
A8o with UTG limp on such a tight table.... check my option, looking for A8x flop.

Flop AdKc6c
SB checks >> I check fully expecting UTG to take the pot down on the flop but he checks. Right now, I think it's possible I have the best hand.

Button bets 400. >> He has had 3 checks ahead of him, he's in position and could easily be bluffing or betting with any Ace, King or draw. He is quite a tight player, so I rule out a complete bluff. but still reckon my A8 is not bad against his range. My plan was to c/call the button.

SB now calls >> This completely changes the hand now. Now that the SB is involved I hate calling as the chance of my hand being good by the river are very slim against both button and SB range. SB is more than likely on a draw and he's getting good odds. I consider folding, but decide that's way too conservative especially because I have a decent stack. I decide to over represent my hand here by c/raising. This is what I was unsure of. This is a bluff against two players (UTG and Button), but a value bet against SB. I reckoned I'd get the button to fold any ace that he limped with on the button that was ahead of me (ie: A9/AT/AJ) and that would leave me heads up with the SB who I have position on. In hindsight, making it 1200 was a bit weak. It didn't really achieve much except get rid of UTG. People are suggesting 2200 or 2400 on the flop. I think this might be a bit much because there is a small chance UTG has a hand. Maybe 1600 or 1800 is the right amount.

They both call the 1200 >> Now I'm positive the button has a better ace than me or a flush draw, and that the SB has a very similar hand. In fact, because of their stacks I was pretty sure they both had draws. The button was way too tight to have called the flop c/raise with a bad ace or king. He possibly had AT/AJ. Likewise for SB (leaning more towards a draw)

Turn 6s
SB checks >> This is a perfect card for me. It means I'm splitting the pot with AJ/AT etc (the two hands that most likely got this far and are ahead of me). I can't check now and give them both a free card so I had to bet.. and hope the SB does not have K6.


Will reply about other hands later. Going out for my first game of poker in a week!