HFC T77 Full Metal GBB SMG

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http://www.airsoft-direct.co.uk/product.php?product=678&cat=118&subcat=206

Have to say I this looks plain but I am somehow fascinated with it
and want one! (with a fake silencer of possible)
Anyone know anything about it ? Performance.
If its a GBB firing at full auto things would get real cold. Worried
that if I bought one some time that it could be temperamental.

Found a bit on you tube
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=HPnskkihrsE
~B

tonyj_mc

can't find too much about it, like the look it looks diffrent. kinda like a bastard child of a MAC 10 and UZI

cherubaul

the guns basic design seems to be the same as the ingram Mac11.
If it is i would say stay well clear as although it will be fun, shoot hard and have a great kick and rate of fire it will be a tempermental nightmare.
it by the looks of it fires from and open bolt which can get clogged easily in muddy conditions, and it uses the M11a1 mags and speaking as an owner of 10 of these mags from KSC and HFC they have a tendency to double feed. add to this that due to the nature of the moving parts the bolt is prone to snapping and thus needing replacement by and expensiveish magnesium bolt which again has its own drawbacks. also as far as i know HFC doesn't have a replacement parts service.

in conclussion i would say stay away from this or the M11a1 as a gbb sub gun and try get your hands on a KSC TMP. I noticed at least 3 for sale on arnies with numerous mags at a decent price.

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Cool thanks for the Advice.

~B

o1s1n

cherubaul wrote:

the guns basic design seems to be the same as the ingram Mac11.
If it is i would say stay well clear as although it will be fun, shoot hard and have a great kick and rate of fire it will be a tempermental nightmare.
it by the looks of it fires from and open bolt which can get clogged easily in muddy conditions, and it uses the M11a1 mags and speaking as an owner of 10 of these mags from KSC and HFC they have a tendency to double feed. add to this that due to the nature of the moving parts the bolt is prone to snapping and thus needing replacement by and expensiveish magnesium bolt which again has its own drawbacks. also as far as i know HFC doesn't have a replacement parts service.

in conclussion i would say stay away from this or the M11a1 as a gbb sub gun and try get your hands on a KSC TMP. I noticed at least 3 for sale on arnies with numerous mags at a decent price.

As cherubaul said, these can be very tempermental.

When they work they're the most fun type of airsoft to fire (well I think so anyway). Always puts a smile on my face.

Make sure you get good gas for it too. I've found my own Mac 11 seems fire best with propane. Some other brands of gas, ICS in particular and it won't really fire at all.

Has no real use whatsoever in a skirmish though. Completely impractical. I only ever used it once and didn't even manage to shoot anyone with it.

Purely a showpiece really.

cherubaul

o1s1n wrote:

Has no real use whatsoever in a skirmish though. Completely impractical. I only ever used it once and didn't even manage to shoot anyone with it.

Purely a showpiece really.

believe it or not my Mac 11s have an excellent record of kills up in predator. they are the perfect entry gun for the fort up there and also for on the move in the scrubland or when crawling. i sling the bigger gun (the 36 or the AK) and draw the Mac 11. as i said and I will agree with you O1S1N that it has let me down very very badly on occasion like when i snuck up on a group of 3 and was ready to hose them i pull the trigger 1 round is expended and then the bolt snapped.

Spitfire666

i have my eye out for one of these or an ingram on the for sale sections here and on asi as i want one badly but dont wanna buy new.
i like the shape of this one. its realy just a slightly longer ingram frame with a grip bolted to the front.

Skatedude

i have the t77, looks and feels the part, but i havent really had much sucess with it, normally jams or runs out of gas too quickly so you dont get a full mag out of it, however, i havent had the time yet to set it up properly, the hop up needs adjustment, and using a tiny allen key which they forget to include with mine(manual says its in the box)
I removed the front grip as i feel it definatly improves the looks.
I'll have it with me on sat at hrta and will try to get it sorted,

Ps, since it empties the mag in about a second and a half, you will need lots of spare mags, Its a real spray and pray weapon