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Mark III

  • 12-08-2007 4:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭


    Hi All

    Just wondering what is the latest on the Mark III (A F problem) as I would be very interested in purchasing one, Only when all the teething problems are resolved

    I also saw a thread that there may be a 40D on the way has anyone an idea of the cost mmmm!!!



    Regards
    Fireman


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    I have my own theory on the AF problem... It's the lenses at fault, not the camera... I mean, you're gonna have to have pretty fast AF to keep up with 10fps...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    interesting idea Al. a couple of the Nikons shoot at up to 8fps...anyone know if there were similar issues with the D2Xs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    the d2x use a high speed crop method to keep up the speed so the speed is the same as the MK 2n. there has been soo much testing on this subject, results were if you had a bad copy expect a 40% out of focus test and a good copy were 7% out of focus. I am holding on at the moment for one, it was between this and a 1Ds MKII, so if the MK 3 comes good I will get one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    rumour has it the 40D will have an fps of 6.75. I have to say that close enough for jazz for me if it happens so I'm hoping for a 40D rather than a 1DMkIII


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,332 ✭✭✭311


    Is it not better value ,to go from a small frame sensor to a full frame sensor ??

    If someone with a 20/30D goes for a mk3 ,they won't get the wide value of a 5D.

    Can't understand the logic of spending so much on a 1.3 sensor. Regardless of the hardware around it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭ThOnda


    Full frame chip PENTAX DLSR, hmmm... What a dream :-)
    But it doesn't belong here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    _Brian_ wrote:
    Is it not better value ,to go from a small frame sensor to a full frame sensor ??

    If someone with a 20/30D goes for a mk3 ,they won't get the wide value of a 5D.

    Can't understand the logic of spending so much on a 1.3 sensor. Regardless of the hardware around it.

    TBH Brian, it's not all or always about the frame size. For me, there are two key selling points for the 1D: 1) weather proofing and 2) the fps/cache values for continuous shooting.

    For that I have to take a hit from a 1.6 crop to a 1.3. Now, depending on the type of photographs you take, that might not be important, might be important. For me to go from a 1.6 CF to a full frame is a massive loss. I wasn't especially pleased about the possibility of doing it but I have to factor it against what I do need which is better fps cos the 30D doesn't quite come up to scratch there.

    You need to bear in mind that different photographers have different needs. I'd take the hit from 1.6 to 1.3, but not from 1.6 to full frame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Its the 1d body that you pay all the money for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭leinsterman


    I have no problems with mine ... but better ask Valentia ... he probably used the AF to its full extent more than I have ... he's been using it for a week while I was travelling with his 5D ...

    We did some AF testing on the old firmware and noticed perfect sharp shots ... I have not tried it with the new firmware ...

    I'll be going to some matched soon hopefully I'll give it a good run then ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭Fireman


    Thanks to all who replied, leinsterman glad to hear that you are happy and the AF is working OK. Looking forward to seeing you're football shots

    Fireman


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    _Brian_ wrote:
    Is it not better value ,to go from a small frame sensor to a full frame sensor ??

    If someone with a 20/30D goes for a mk3 ,they won't get the wide value of a 5D.

    Can't understand the logic of spending so much on a 1.3 sensor. Regardless of the hardware around it.

    Sounds like my most recent epiphany :D Decided to wait until the 5D successor is announced, see what the new model is like and maybe go full frame then. Works out nicely, won't have the money to buy until then anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭Valentia


    I did find af issues with the MkIII. I did a couple of hundred shots at the regatta in Valentia and while many are excellent there were a number that were out of focus for no apparent reason. Shots taken in sequence seemed to cause problems with some in the burst OOF. It had a tendency to shift focus to the background very quickly on bird shots, even when locking focus initially. It could all be down to my technique though. I hadn't enough time to experiment with settings. If anything my gut feeling is that the focusing area is too big. I love the feel of the camera, the quality and the speed at which everything responds. I think I'd be inclined towards Brian's idea though and see what the 40D brings with its 1.6 crop and Digic III processor. Five frames/sec should be enough for most of us.

    I see Rob Galbraith still has serious issues with the Mk III compared to the Mk II.

    The quality of the 5D has not been surpassed either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭mikeanywhere


    rymus wrote:
    Decided to wait until the 5D successor is announced,

    6D all the way baby!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    my mouth is watering in anticipation :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭mikeanywhere


    rymus wrote:
    my mouth is watering in anticipation :D

    I've already made a small mess *looking for a cloth to clean it up*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    careful now :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭Carrigman


    rymus wrote:
    Decided to wait until the 5D successor is announced, see what the new model is like and maybe go full frame then. Works out nicely, won't have the money to buy until then anyway.

    The successor to the 5D will most likely only have incremental improvements. Something similar to the "improvements" that the 30D has over the 20D - not enough to encourage one to upgrade.

    The 5D has never been better value. You can order one from Albert for less than €2k. A lot of money but a SIGNIFICANT drop from its original price.

    Think of the unsurpassed IQ. All those MPs. The 40% bigger sensor.

    You know it makes sense.

    Albert is just a click away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    you're just plain evil damn it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    I want a 40D. And I reckon it'll be around 2K as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    d'ya reckon? I can't see how they'd get away with charging so much for a 1.6x body. I would have thought it'd come in less than €1400. Maybe that's 'around 2k' though... depends if you're a glass half full or half empty kinda person :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    I would buy a 5d in a heartbeat if only for the 1d build quality. Its a pain in the rear listening to all the crap going on about the 1d MK3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    Hmmmm 1Ds MKII :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭Valentia


    Borderfox wrote:
    I would buy a 5d in a heartbeat if only for the 1d build quality. Its a pain in the rear listening to all the crap going on about the 1d MK3.

    I put my 5D through a fair amount of sand, salt and Atlantic waves and she is still ticking away. She's more robust than you'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    I know they can take a bit of abuse but you aint seen the days I have had to work in. I have a 70-200 f2.8 IS so that paired up with a 1d body will be weatherproof, well more so than anything else. It swinging towards a 1ds at the moment to take in commercial and any other work that comes my way. I know a friend in an advertising agency who can throw some work my way. 1ds mk2 is €5200 from you know who and a 1d mk3 is €4100 over the counter here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    rymus wrote:
    d'ya reckon? I can't see how they'd get away with charging so much for a 1.6x body. I would have thought it'd come in less than €1400. Maybe that's 'around 2k' though... depends if you're a glass half full or half empty kinda person :D

    made the guess on the basis of 1) the weather proofing and 2) the fps and enlarged cache. If it comes in at 1400E I'll be happier again.


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