BMW 3-series question...

galwaytt

......because I'm lazy, and I know that other people know in their heads........can you tell me bhp/torque/very approx mpg of an 01 3-series coupe with the following engines.......and have I the cc's right??

318 (1.9 4-pot)
320 (2.2? 6-pot)
323 (2.5? 6-pot)
325 (2.? 6-pot)

TIA

tuxy

I know you said you are lazy but just go to www.parkers.co.uk

milltown

I think:

318 = 118 Bhp
320 = 170 Bhp
323 = 170ish Bhp (superceded by the twin vanos 2.2l 320)
325 = 190 Bhp (2.5l)

Elessar

Lazy:

318 (1.9 4-pot) 118bhp
320 (2.2? 6-pot) 170bhp
323 (2.5? 6-pot) 190bhp
325 (2.? 6-pot) 200+??

I have the 320. Man is it a sweet engine.

MarkN

325 was a 2.5.

318 (the 2L version) was 143 bhp.

The 320 was 150bhp - very heavy car and very underpowered although the E46 320 engine does sound pretty nice.

The 323 was 170 bhp (now gone) and the 325 was 192 bhp.

unkel

318 - depends. 1.9 118bhp was replaced by 2.0 143bhp late '01. Both 4-pot, not BMW's core competency

All others mentioned are straight 6

320 - 2.2l 170bhp (0-100km/h in 8s) This engine replaced the 2.0l 150bhp in '00

323 - there's no such thing as an '01 323. The 2.5l 323 was replaced by the 2.5l 325 in '00

325 - 2.5 192bhp (0-100km/h in 7s)

MarkN wrote:

The 320 was 150bhp - very heavy car and very underpowered

See above. The '01 320 is pretty damn quick. The older one is a lot more sedate with 0-100km/h in 10s and less power / torque compared to the 2.2l. In fact, it is slower than the 2.0l 4 pot 318 mentioned above

Very fecking confusing, those model numbers

Yakuza

I can attest to the 01 320's oomph. Plenty of poke on the motorways and around town. I took it to France last year and it ate up the KM on the autoroutes (most of the time in the overtaking lane with the indicator on hehe).

A few weeks ago I hired an E90 320d in Spain (it might have been a 318d (wasn't badged) but they're both 2 litre 4-pots) and damned if it wasn't very smooth to drive. Plenty of poke for a 4 pot (me being used to the 6) but the kicker was I was getting around 5.6 l/100km (~50mpg) at ~130km/h (no cruise control!) on the autopista and about 7 l/100km (40 mpg) around town.

MarkN

Unkel there was deffo a 323 in 2001. I nearly bought one a few years ago! A guy I know owned it at the time, it was navy, had a lovely BMW kit on it and some sort of graphite coloured BMW wheels with grey leather and it looked the business. Now whether it was lying around somewhere before it was registered, I do not know but it had a 2001 plate on it.

Back on the 320i - it's really a matter of opinion I guess. I drove a 2005 320ci only last weekend and compared to my car it was not fast. Personally, I wouldn't consider a car that takes over 8 seconds to get to 60 as fast. I think they're nice cars, they sound lovely but an M3 they are not. :-)

omega man

MarkN wrote:

Unkel there was deffo a 323 in 2001. I nearly bought one a few years ago! A guy I know owned it at the time, it was navy, had a lovely BMW kit on it and some sort of graphite coloured BMW wheels with grey leather and it looked the business. Now whether it was lying around somewhere before it was registered, I do not know but it had a 2001 plate on it.

Back on the 320i - it's really a matter of opinion I guess. I drove a 2005 320ci only last weekend and compared to my car it was not fast. Personally, I wouldn't consider a car that takes over 8 seconds to get to 60 as fast. I think they're nice cars, they sound lovely but an M3 they are not. :-)

Yes but it looks great, 6 cyl engine, rwd and so on. Getting from 0-60 in less than 8 seconds wouldnt be a priority for me personally. With traffic in Dublin in particular and a heavier garda presence on the roads (ie penalty points) is a very fast car highly desirable? A minority of people will be impressed with speed with most people it will be looks as lets face it your average person wouldnt have a clue what the difference is between say a 320 and a 330 or in your case an A3 or an S3.

MarkN

Couldn't agree with you more Omega - on both points.

I just think some people need to experience fast cars and then you won't find someone claiming a car with 170 bhp is fast. In a Nissan Micra, it would be fast, in a heavy BMW, it's not. Maybe it's the Irish 1.4 car attitude that we've all been reared on

unkel

MarkN wrote:

Now whether it was lying around somewhere before it was registered, I do not know but it had a 2001 plate on it

That might very well be it

MarkN wrote:

Personally, I wouldn't consider a car that takes over 8 seconds to get to 60 as fast

Pretty high standard there

I'd say more than 99% of people will never accelerate a car from 0-100km/h in under 8s

MarkN wrote:

Maybe it's the Irish 1.4 car attitude that we've all been reared on

He he, maybe

richie_rvf

unkel wrote:

.....4-pot, not BMW's core competency .....

What about the original and, for some people, still the best M3

The E46 325ci was released in late 2000 (I have one of the first) there were a good few 2001 E46 323ci as a result of phasing the 325ci in.

Richie.

unkel

richie_rvf wrote:

What about the original and, for some people, still the best M3

You got me there