AA 3way facing action on turn

dvdfan

Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button ($100.00)
SB ($82.23)
BB ($102.00)
UTG ($110.15)
UTG+1 ($99.50)
CO Hero ($108.00)

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with Kd Ks
2 folds, Hero raises to 3.50, Button calls 3.50, SB calls 3.00, BB raises to 10.00, Hero calls 7.50, Button calls 7.50, 1 fold.

Flop (36.50) Td 6h 3d
BB bets 25.00, Hero calls 25.00, Button raises to 50.00, BB calls 25.00,Hero???

Button is 20/13 Flop AF 8.0, Turn AF 1.4, River AF 5.0 over 200 hands
BB is 18/16 Flop AF 6.5 Turn 0.5 River Infinity Symbol over 100 hands

I know i should have 4bet but i was hoping to get action from the button which isnt so clever and this is exactly the reason why i should have 4bet so i could at least narrow their range and get heads up, now im in a bad situation and there range is harder to pin point now so i got what i deserve but as played any comments

Rb

So, kings are the new aces, eh?!



EDIT: And the flop is the new turn, eh?!?!

On the flop, I don't really like the flat call of the $25, but we can't raise to leave enough for a big bet on the turn, so I'd shove.

BigCityBanker

I shove here - though that is probably the wrong move

edit - just seen u actually had KK. Im not as comfortable now.

Hectorjelly

when you flat call you ensure a multiway pot in middle position with kings, you got what you wanted; just push over the flop bet and hope that no-one flopped a set

shoutman

I four bet preflop, reraise the flop, fold to any more opposition on the flop.

As played I fold as I can only see you beating qq and jj and possibly a strong flush draw in this spot.

Hectorjelly

shoutman wrote:

reraise the flop, fold to any more opposition on the flop.

the first action on the flop is a bet, if we want to raise its a raise not a reraise. Also the guy bets out $25 and we have $100. What amount do you want to raise to and then fold to an all in?

Rb

shoutman wrote:

I four bet preflop, reraise the flop, fold to any more opposition on the flop.

4-bet to what? ~$25/$30
If we get called and he bets $25 on the flop again, we've now $78 behind, so we raise to...? min raise to $50 and fold to opposition?

As is played, if we raise the flop to $75, we're leaving ~$20 behind for a bet on the turn, which is pretty useless.

Mr.Plough

i shove here givin their afs, not sure if i like it though.

shoutman

Leave me alone im still half asleep. lol. Apologies for offering spewy bad advice.

I still fold as played though.

cardshark202

Why didn't you re-raise preflop? As played shove the flop and hope for the best

dvdfan

cardshark202 wrote:

Why didn't you re-raise preflop? As played shove the flop and hope for the best

It was just bad play and been greedy, i wanted the extra action from the BB but now that i got the extra action on the flop im hoping the BB folds to the min raise so i can get heads up which he dosent. I just flat called the bet because i wanted to see what the BB would do, if im willing to push here because i think im ahead then why not let the BB call and i can push the turn.

If the range of hands im ahead of AK,QQ,JJ is what im up against then they dont have alot of outs 3 for AK assuming they dont both have it and 2 outs for QQ or JJ then im happy to bring the two of them along and let them committ themselves, is this wrong. I tend not to worry about the flush so much in 3bet pots because its more often than not a PP of some sort as theres not many 3betting light at this level and i have the K of diamonds so nobody has AKs.

I really should have 4bet to narrow their range and now im in a situation where the stacks arent big enough to raise for information without being committed which just makes my situation all the worse.

phantom_lord

you're not 4betting to narrow their range, you doing it for value, and to get as much of their stack in pf. just shove now.

dvdfan

Well, i folded to the min raise as i couldnt see what 2 hands i was ahead of, BB called and showed QQ and Button had 66 for the set.

valor

this is a really ugly spot, i actually think its a fold

i definitely 4 bet preflop because the 3 bet is so small they are definitely going to call behind you