33 flops set in BB vs SB(pre flop raiser) $50NL

coillcam

Yippee reached $50NL today after 14.7k hands at 20NL :cool:

As the poker gods smile upon me, they further oblige me in flopping a set:eek:


For hand in question villain is 22/13/1.75 over 94. I am 19/15/3.2 over 300

I would appreciate a line check here post-flop on the latter streets.

Am I being to passive?

And is raising the turn the best way to nudge stacks across the line?

Paddy Power 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker


Button PongPong ($58.05)
SB slaskar ($60.08)
BB Hero ($71.65)
UTG DaBeear ($30.90)
UTG+1 leffeh ($48.00)
CO monzedk ($153.32)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 3 3
4 folds, slaskar raises to 1.50, Hero calls 1.25.

Flop (3.50) 3 4 Q
slaskar bets 3.00, Hero calls 3.00.

Turn (9.50) A
slaskar bets 5.00, Hero calls 5.00.

River (19.50) 6
slaskar bets 15.00, Hero raises to 40.00

BigCityBanker

coillcam wrote:

reached $50NL today after 14.7k hands at 20NL

well done.

Given the action I deffo raise turn.

Macspower

you now have a masive hand and you want to get your stack in the middle... calling wont achieve this for you and leaves you having to make too big of a bet on the river to try and get money in..

I'm raising the flop here and if not the flop then definately raising the turn.... If he folds he folds you probably weren't getting much more anyway... Played as is he needs a very strong hand to pay you off now

Ace2007

i think u played it fine, you could have raised the turn as BCB, but there's no possible scare cards that can come on the river,so just flat calling the turn allows him to fire on the river, and ultimatly probably call your raise.

basically wat i'm trying to say in a round about way is- if you raise the turn, he is either going to go all in(on the turn and if not fire all in on the river) or fold, in which case waiting to the river you get at least $15 out of him if nothing more...

but then again some ppl competely ignore my thoughts

BigCityBanker

Macspower wrote:

I'm raising the flop here and if not the flop then definately raising the turn....

I'm not so sure about raising the flop here on such a dry board? Im very open to opinion though.

opr

BigCityBanker wrote:

I'm not so sure about raising the flop here on such a dry board? Im very open to opinion though.

Problem is by check calling the flop and then check rasing the turn i think your hand is now face up. By taking this line we always have a set or AQ imo.

Opr

Macspower

opr wrote:

Problem is by check calling the flop and then check rasing the turn i think your hand is now face up. By taking this line we always have a set or AQ imo.

Opr

Agreed...

I think he needs a much bigger hand to call a turn raise than a flop raise... I'm still for getting my stack in ASAP

Ace2007

Macspower wrote:

Agreed...

I think he needs a much bigger hand to call a turn raise than a flop raise... I'm still for getting my stack in ASAP

would ASAP not be the river though as played by the OP?

cardshark202

Raise the flop, bvb at that level and most levels, guys will felt with top pair. I make it 11 -13 on the flop. I think calling the flop and raising the turn is fine too though. River is the worst spot to raise here as you will only generally get called by 2pair+ after this action. However, since you didnt raise at any other point you might as well shove it in now.

opr

Sorry i misread this hand and thought the raiser was on the button hence my c/c and c/r comments.

Rasing flop or turn is fine here.

BTW i think the hand is much more interesting if the raiser was on the button

Opr

cardshark202

If he's on the button I'm re-raising or folding preflop

Hectorjelly

raise the flop

cooker3

I raise the flop to see where we are at.

In seriousness, when I flop a monster the first thing I do after I fistpump is to atthe effective stack sizes and see what is required to get it all in.
By calling the flop and turn you have left yourself in a position to get $50 in a $19 pot, this is very hard

If you call and raise the turn to say 15 and he calls, the pot is around 40 and he has 40 behind so requires a psb to get it all in which is doable but tricky.

If you raise the flop to say 9, the pot on the turn is 21 and you have 50 to get in so you can bet about 2/3rds of it which is around 15 and if he calls then the pot is now 51 and you have to just get 35 in the middle which is just another 2/3rds pot bet which is easier then b and far far easier then a. Your also playing 50nl so they are likely to stack of with a lot.

Hectorjelly

cooker3 wrote:

I raise the flop to see where we are at.

In seriousness, when I flop a monster the first thing I do after I fistpump is to atthe effective stack sizes and see what is required to get it all in.
By calling the flop and turn you have left yourself in a position to get $50 in a $19 pot, this is very hard

If you call and raise the turn to say 15 and he calls, the pot is around 40 and he has 40 behind so requires a psb to get it all in which is doable but tricky.

If you raise the flop to say 9, the pot on the turn is 21 and you have 50 to get in so you can bet about 2/3rds of it which is around 15 and if he calls then the pot is now 51 and you have to just get 35 in the middle which is just another 2/3rds pot bet which is easier then b and far far easier then a. Your also playing 50nl so they are likely to stack of with a lot.

very good post