Two $2/$4 Two Pair Hands.

NickyOD

Hand 1:

Villain is 15.5/10.5/2.5 over 350 hands and has been very quiet this session. I'm not quite sure what my table image is. I have been playing prety aggressively but haven't shown down any trash.

Effective stacks me ($502) Villain covers.

I get dealt Ah/Ks on the button. It's folded to me and I make it $16. Villain calls in the BB.

*** FLOP *** [D3 HK H7]

We both check.

*** TURN *** [SA]

He checks. I bet $24. He raises to $96. I call.

*** RIVER *** [HQ]

He bets. $204.00 and I?
Hows my line so far?

Hand 2

Villain is 18.5/9.5/1.25. He has $513 and I cover. My table image is probably laggy.

Villain limps UTG and it's folded to me in th eBB. I check my option with 6-8o.

*** FLOP *** [S8 S6 HA]

I bet $8. He raises to $24. I call.

*** TURN *** [HQ]

I lead for $44. He calls.

*** RIVER *** [C10]

I check. He bets $115.Blech!!

Call or fold?

jimmii

Hand 1:
After you've checked the flop he could well think a wide range of Ax hands are good on the turn. On the river its pretty close but I think your ahead enough. The only hand that he could have that beats you is ThJh I don't see them showing up with 33 or 77 that much as I would think they lead out on that flop.

Hand 2:
I would have bet again on the river easy fold then if he raises. This sort of line looks like someone with 7s9s but that seems a little out of his UTG range really. I think he has you on this one.

ianmc38

jimmii wrote:

Hand 1:
After you've checked the flop he could well think a wide range of Ax hands are good on the turn. On the river its pretty close but I think your ahead enough. The only hand that he could have that beats you is ThJh I don't see them showing up with 33 or 77 that much as I would think they lead out on that flop.

How often do you donk bet a set into thee preflop raiser when you're oop? A checkraise is a far more common line for the average player.

I think the river is pretty marginal. Although our hand is underrepresented alot because of the flop check, I still think his line looks alot like 33/77. Based on your read I would lean towards a fold. Anytime I ever look up a big bet like this, it always seems tobe a big hand.

cardshark202

Hand 1: You should def bet this flop, especially given your image. Bleh since you've been playing aggressively, its vaguely possible he could show up with a worse 2 pair, but you will be shown 33 or 77 a lot. I'm a station though so call.

Hand 2: Get it in on the flop. Fold now.

jimmii

H1: The average player doesn't run at 15/10 though so I don't think you can really put him in that boat. I'd bet it looking to be raised by an aggressive player. I don't think a tight player is going to put in that much of a bet on the river with 33 or 77 either. In theory i'd call but in reality i'd probably bottle it and fold.

fuzzbox

I bet the flop in hand 1, and if 15/10 dude c/r me then I fold there. As played you have underrepped so much its often too easy to pay off. When the Qh hits and he bets so strong, I dont think AK is good there v. often. That said, I would often have my money in the middle somewhere along the way.

In hand 2, I question what an 19/10 dude open limps utg with? I doubt you are good when he blams the river like this. You have shown a strong line, so he prolly expect you to call ... (and has AQ).

NickyOD

Hand 1: I don't see why betting the flop is so automatic. Sometimes I bet sometimes I don't and under representing your hand is not always a bad thing. I called the river bet. He had 44.

Hand 2: Suggesting getting it in on the flop is bananas with these stacks as I have no idea what his range is really. I made a very bad call on the river though. His hand should have been transparent enough. He had AsTs.

cardshark202

Well you are beating almost anything a guy with those stats can limp utg

Gholimoli

fuzzbox wrote:

I bet the flop in hand 1, and if 15/10 dude c/r me then I fold there. As played you have underrepped so much its often too easy to pay off. When the Qh hits and he bets so strong, I dont think AK is good there v. often. That said, I would often have my money in the middle somewhere along the way.

In hand 2, I question what an 19/10 dude open limps utg with? I doubt you are good when he blams the river like this. You have shown a strong line, so he prolly expect you to call ... (and has AQ).

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except where Fuzz says he would fold the flop in hand one if he gets raised i have to say i would like to be able to fold but would prob call.
folding is best obviously.

ianmc38

Checking the flop in hand 1 is essential some of the time in order to randomise our frequencies. That way we disguise our hand and also add more credibility to our cbedts and delayed cbets.