Kings on scary board

cooker3

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $54.85
BB: $98.70
UTG: $30.90
MP: $50.50
hero (CO): $74.25
BTN: $89.20

Reads: Villain is 18/16/3.5 over 150 hands
Not been involved with him until now.
I have been generally aggressive, stealing, c betting etc

Preflop: hero is dealt K K (6 Players)
2 folds, hero raises to $2.00, 2 folds, BB raises to $6.50, hero calls $4.50

Flop: ($13.25) J Q T (2 Players)
BB checks, hero checks

Turn: ($13.25) J Q T 2 (2 Players)
BB checks, hero bets $8.00, BB calls $8.00

River: ($29.25) J Q T 2 8 (2 Players)
BB bets $14.00

Particulary interested in my turn bet and what to do on the river.

dvdfan

I would expect a 3.5 agression player to be raising the turn with a made straight unless hes obviously slowplaying it and even if he is isnt this the time to get a raise in.

I would definetely bet the flop on such a drawy board and youve outs to improve your hand and if you hit your probably not getting paid off so nows the time to get his money in.

On the turn as played i think betting $8-$10 is fine and now that horrible river card has complicated things and you cant rr because the only hands that are calling you are beating you. You still may be ahead, he played it very passively so i think i just call and hope he handnt something like Q9,J9,T9 and it could well be a busted flush draw or the other end of the straight draw like QK,JK etc and it played very much like a draw

RoadSweeper

I'd normally 4 bet pfe flop here, but against an aggressive opponent with position a call is good too!

I am unsure what i would do the rest of streets so be interested in replies.

Hitman Actual

I'm not great for these cash game replies, but if his preflop reraising range includes a lot of broadway Q/J type hands, then I think I bet the flop, trying to get the money in by the turn. If he's much tighter then I thread carefully. On the river, if his range still includes AQ/J/T, then just call I think. I'm not convinced of the merits of raising there.

looserock

With those stats and that flop I think you played it well enough, I think i'd prefer to bet the flop and take it from there, maby fold to a big turn bet, check if he checks the turn.

As played I'd have to fold now he may have AQ, but all the other hands like AK,JJ,QQ,10/10, have you beaten.

I'll take a guess and put him on QQ.

Mr.Plough

meh, ugly hand.

flop and turn look good to me.

as dvd said i'd fully expect him to bet this flop after 3betting with an af of 3.5and his c/call turn donk vb river line looks strong, and hes never checking that flop with aq btw.

fold for me

cooker3

dvdfan wrote:

I would definetely bet the flop on such a drawy board and youve outs to improve your hand and if you hit your probably not getting paid off so nows the time to get his money in.

What hand calls me that I beat?
If I am drawing then surely checking is better to get free card on the turn because if he c/r then I have to let it go.

I have not been involved in 3 bet pot with him, I think this is the 2nd time he has 3 betted pf from memory so I suppose his range is nines+ and AQ+

ianmc38

preflop is meh. id prefer to 4 bet, but calling in position is fine if they cbet most flops after 3 betting. turn bet is fine and i would probably call the river as your hand looks like nothing. He could easily have QK/AQ type hands here.

dvdfan

cooker3 wrote:

What hand calls me that I beat?
If I am drawing then surely checking is better to get free card on the turn because if he c/r then I have to let it go.

I have not been involved in 3 bet pot with him, I think this is the 2nd time he has 3 betted pf from memory so I suppose his range is nines+ and AQ+

Ah, i somehow overlooked the 3bet preflop which narrows hes range down alot and changes things completely.

If there wasnt a 3bet i think hands like Q9,J9,T9,KT,KJ,KQ,99 and flush draws will all call here on that flop and your giving all them hands a free look at a turn card, if he comes over the top hes clearly defining hes hand and you can let it go but i think in this case your not just drawing, you have already possibly the best hand and you need to protect it to because if an Ace drops your very unlikely to get paid off.

That was my original taught but the 3betting from a player that hasnt been 3betting light narrows his range and so i think the check in position is good as a set is much more likely to be in his range now aswell.

Running it through poker stove this is your equity on the flop giving your range of 99+,AQ+ which i think is pretty accurate for someone not 3betting light:

Poker tracker says youve 47% equity on that flop, 45% on the turn and 25% on the river so i think you played it spot on, check the flop for pot control, bet the turn after no scare card drops and he checks now twice and you feel your probably betting for value, after he calls the turn and leads on a scary river card i think its very very marginal, youve 25% equity and your 3/1 on the call, giving the strong line he took leading that scary river i think id lean towards a fold.

Also if you tighten hes range to TT+, AKo+ your equity decreases to 23%,16% and 2% on all 3 streets even though the 9 dosent make up any of hes range so its an easy fold on the river in that case and probably check/fold all the way

Id be interested to hear results did you see a showdown

DEmeant0r

If you have been regularly trying to steal his blind, maybe he was playing back at you?

You should've 4bet here to narrow his range down even more. I don't think villain would check his set/straight twice in a row, so I fold the river.

cooker3

dvdfan wrote:

Id be interested to hear results did you see a showdown

Sorry, can't do, I folded. I thought I was crushed.

phantom_lord

nit