Halloween Remake

Loomis

As mentioned here

Is anyone really not looking forward to this? I really don't see the point. It's a true horror classic and think it's such a bad idea to try to remake it because unless it's amazing it's a complete waste of time and has a negative impact on the original movie and series as a whole. In my opinion anyway.
I saw Devil's Rejects which was also done by Rob Zombie and didn't think much of it to be honest. Since it's a remake though he has a hope of reproducing a good movie simply because the original was so good. Like the original it's using mostly unknowns (apart from Malcolm McDowell playing Dr. Loomis and Danielle Harris who was in Halloween 4 and 5; nice touch added her in I have to say) but again this could go wrong. I'll see it just out of curiosity but hope to God it doesn't leave the franchise looking terrible because of a crap remake stuck in after 8 movies.
Any thought?

remoteboy

Agree on The Devil's Rejects, although did quite like House of a Thousand Corpses.

The supporting cast is class though. Udo Kier, William Forsythe, Adrienne Barbeau (nice touch), Dee Wallace Stone, Clint Howard (ledge), Danny Trejo, Brad Dourif, Sybil Danning, Micky Dolenz(!). Even Michael Myers is Sabretooth from the X-Men (he won't get much dialogue, but he'll be scary as feck!).

I'll be more than willing to give it a go.

Karl Hungus

After the dozen or so garbage sequels, I don't see how a remake is going to have any negative impact at all.

Now I'm usually the one to hate a remake, but Rob Zombie has said before that it's not going to be a straight remake, and that he's adding a lot of original material that wasn't in the first film. I think the trick to making a good remake, is not to straight-out copy the original, but add something original to it, like The Fly or The Thing. So I'm rather looking forward to this one.

The Bollox

Karl Hungus wrote:

After the dozen or so garbage sequels, I don't see how a remake is going to have any negative impact at all.

Now I'm usually the one to hate a remake, but Rob Zombie has said before that it's not going to be a straight remake, and that he's adding a lot of original material that wasn't in the first film. I think the trick to making a good remake, is not to straight-out copy the original, but add something original to it, like The Fly or The Thing. So I'm rather looking forward to this one.

agreed. I mean for another example of a good remake: Aliens. it took the story in a new direction with a nest of aliens instead of just the one and it was savage.

actually no, I was thinking of sequels. I'll just stand over here

Karl Hungus

The Bollox wrote:

agreed. I mean for another example of a good remake: Aliens. it took the story in a new direction with a nest of aliens instead of just the one and it was savage.

actually no, I was thinking of sequels. I'll just stand over here

Still a valid point. I think sequels are often just as big a perpetrator in the "Nothing to add" sense as a lot of remakes. Under a lesser director, they probably would've followed the same premise of the original and had another alien stalk and kill another spaceship crew one by one ad nauseum.

film_gonzo

Yeah I think this mightn't be too bad. Plus it can't really be any worse than the recent sequels, can it?!?

*EDIT* Ah, my response times are a bit slow this morning.

Loomis

film_gonzo wrote:

Yeah I think this mightn't be too bad. Plus it can't really be any worse than the recent sequels, can it?!?

*EDIT* Ah, my response times are a bit slow this morning.

I actually loved H20.
Resurrection was decent too

triv88

heres a trailer fro the movie

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809784517/video/3545602/

koneko

I'm not usually a fan of remakes, but it's Rob Zombie, damnit. I'm looking forward to seeing what he's done with it. Ken Foree is in it too (yay!), and Brad Dourif rocks.

irishash

Karl Hungus wrote:

Now I'm usually the one to hate a remake, but Rob Zombie has said before that it's not going to be a straight remake, and that he's adding a lot of original material that wasn't in the first film.

I also read interviews with rob zombie going on about how he is creating a lot of new stuff for the film and how he wrote the script without refreshing his mind by watching the original. But having seen the teaser and full trailers, it seem to me that most of the sequences are carbon copies of the originals scenes, ie: the ghost bedsheet, pinned to the wall, the opening murder.

It seems to me zombie is going to expand more on the myers backstory (judging by the fact they are introducting the sister storyline in this movie, something that was only created for the terrible sequel) and his time in the metal hospital/relationship with loomis.

Still it looks slick, but cant shake the feeling of a studio just trying to cash in here.

Nerin

halloween has been a terribly up and down series of films.
if it wasnt rob zombie id fear the worst of this one.
he was also supposed to make a film in the crow series and i was disappointed when he dint.
crow one brilliant. crow 2 farely good. crow 3 terrible. crow 4 strangely funny.

film_gonzo

That trailer disappointed me more than anything else. Hopefully it won't be quite as formulaic as the trailer makes it out to be.

I'll also allow that H2o wasn't the worst (a long way form the original though) but Resurrection was muck. I really didn't like that movie and it's 'hip' webcam footage bull.

Loomis

Meh, don't like that Michael moves fast and fights 'normally' in the trailer. The creepy aspect of the character is that he ambles along and doesn't give a ****. He let's you hit and cut and shoot him and then rips you apart when he finally gets his slow ass over to you

qwertplaywert

i saw zombies first script posted somewhere and it was awful
although ive heard widespread talk that he has changed it drasically, and ,tbh,it cant be worst than nearly all of the sequels

worth a trip to the cinema i think

Hugh Hefner

My problem with this is that I have no faith in Rob Zombie. The trailer looks more generic than I'm comfortable with and I'm still unsure how I feel about showing Michael's "genesis" and development as a psycho. Of course I'll see it out of unadulterated curiosity.


P.s. I really liked H20, especially the opening scene with Joseph Gordon-Levitt, who at the time I only knew from 3rd Rock From The Sun. He and his anti-social stick were funny.

Galvasean

After the Wicker Man*, Texas Chainsaw and Hitcher I have had my fill of horror remakes.

Although much to my surprise Nic Cage's Wicker Man turned out to be the comedy of the year!

senordingdong

In fairness, I would believe that Mr.Zombie has utmost respect for the genre and will do ot justice.

irishash

just thinking something here :

michael myers kills his sister, gets locked up in a mental hospital, is basically comatose for most of the time for the next 10-15yrs. Then he breaks out, returns to his hometown and starts the slaughter of young teens (they really do deserve it )

in the trailer it shows him fighting with guards, hanging people on walls with knifes, generally being a badass and a big one at that.

so my thought is this (and yes i am bearing in mind this is fiction and a horror movie) - if he was basically a lump of non moving clay in the hospital, how in hell did he get so strong and agile and learn those badass fighting moves ?? was he bodybuilding while in a zombie state ??

in the original movies, they say michael is a supernatural being and explain it in that way, but the remake is meant to be a more realistic version of life. if that is the case michael should be a 300 pound fatass and that is the reason he walks so slow is because he unable to walk more than a couple of steps without pausing for breath.

senordingdong

Never mind rational explanations!
Just don't go into the closet!

Goodshape

The most recent trailer is fairly bland, not really showing anything we haven't come to expect from seeing the original, but it does hit of something extra towards the end.

Looking forward to this anyway -- maybe the first time I've ever been looking forward to a remake of a film I love, but I thought Devils Rejects was a fantastic horror film and can't wait to see what Zombie does here. Plus, as others said above, the Halloween series is hardly hallowed ground at this stage.

Loomis

Goodshape wrote:

The most recent trailer is fairly bland, not really showing anything we haven't come to expect from seeing the original, but it does hit of something extra towards the end.

Looking forward to this anyway -- maybe the first time I've ever been looking forward to a remake of a film I love, but I thought Devils Rejects was a fantastic horror film and can't wait to see what Zombie does here. Plus, as others said above, the Halloween series is hardly hallowed ground at this stage.

I think 1,2 H20 and Resurrection are brilliant. The rest are woeful.