One, look for a safe place, two, dont hurry stop and wait

fuzzbox

INNNN ONE

1/2 6-max

Effective stacks ~250

hero is running at sorta 32/25 or something. Villain is 17/10 or something.

Preflop
villain opens sb to 8, hero calls with Js9s

Flop (16)
Kh Jd 9d
villain bets 14, hero thinks and makes it 38 to play, villain insta-shoves ... and hero?

INNNN TWO
1/2 6-max
Stacks 200
I dont know villain, he is not at the table very long.

Preflop
villain limps his SB, hero makes it 6 with AA, villain calls

Flop (12)
Jh 8d 7c
villain leads for 20, hero calls

Turn (52)
9h
villain shoves for 175, hero?


And bullies special prize
1/2 6-max
Stacks 200
Hero is running at like 35/24
Villain seems 20/10 or something like that.

Preflop
Hero opens AJo to 6 in MP, villain calls in blinds

Flop (12)
3 4 8r
chk/chk

Turn (12)
A completing rainbow
Villain leads 8, hero calls

River (28)
7
villain leads 21, hero?

LuckyLloyd

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mrflash

hand one, i fold, he could have kk, q10 suited, too dangerous for all my chips when i dont have top pair, your two pair is not good enough for all your money. even if you are ahead, he only has to hit his kicker if he has a k.

hand two, fold, you have to respect him, with no info you have believe that he has a ten.

hand three, call/fold, like his stats enough to respect the bet, this one would take me a while to decide on. villain might be putting out a bet because he feels he is ahead with an ace(lower kicker) or you could be hammered but i think i would call in this situation.

Ste05

1: That's a pretty savage overbet, hmmm with those stats it's close, I can't ever see us being a huge favourite so I probably err on the side of caution and fold, I probably wouldn't have raised though.

2. ugghhhh, god that is disgusting without a read for what the huge bets mean, I probably fold.

3. Just call now, I would have probably cont. bet against someone so tight but could easily check too based on my image, if I checked I would have raised the turn, but again could also call at times, it's a pretty dry board, on the River it's probably a fold, but I'd always make the call in reality because we induced some bluffs by checking the flop and smooth calling the turn. But I would expect to be beaten alot. I'd say it's close either way...

[EDIT: P.S. Please post more hands just for the thread titles... although maybe it's the imagination needed that's stunting your posting prowess lately..]

opr

1/

I don't think we are good against his range in this hand so i fold.

I am sure thier are loads of combo draws i am missing but we are flipping against most of these so they don't matter that much in the calc.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

53,460 games 0.140 secs 381,857 games/sec

Board: Kh Jd 9d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.125% 54.78% 00.35% 29284 186.00 { KK+, JJ, 99, AKs, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, Ad9d, KQs, KdJd, KdTd, QdJd, QTs, JdTd, AKo, KQo, QTo }
Hand 1: 43.875% 44.53% 00.35% 23804 186.00 { Js9s }

Edited as i hadn't KQ in range which is a big part.

2/

Meh i might call i stuggle to see what he plays like this. Does someone really tank the turn with a 10 here and the only 10 that makes sense is J10 ? but i suppose without playing with him longer its a fold.

3/

Call.

ocallagh

call, fold, fold

cardshark202

I fold all three though that might change depending on the villains AF's

opr

The reason i call 3 is i think we have induced the river bet so i think we have to call because of this.

Opr

cardshark202

We have called the turn after raising preflop. An ace is in pretty much all of our range

mdwexford

call
fold
call

RoundTower

fold 1, I think most of his range is stuff like KdQd but you still get crushed.
fold 2, how can he have a draw here really? or KJ style hands are unlikely. And I don't think it is likely to be a bluff.
call 3, you have top pair which is a good hand. I know our hand looks like exactly what it is but still doesn't mean he has to have better.

robinlacey

first one i'd fold but if his stats were just a little bit looser i'd probably talk myself into a call. what's his AF?

second one insta fold,am i missing something here?

third one call,i can't really see doing anything else

fuzzbox

Results:
A fair amount of different opinions, which is nice, as it shows that I didnt post up trivial hands .

I folded all three.

In 1 - yeah I think he has me crushed v.often or else we are flipping. He has to be going gung ho with one pair hands for me to be good here, and he was pretty tight and he insta-shoved, so I passed.

In 2 - I also cant see what I beat, but ... I have AA in battle of blinds. Still, crazy overbets from unknowns are usually the goods ...right?

In 3 - I have been calling this type of bet a lot with AJ/AT type stuff, and its never good. Its fairly clear that I have an ace, and the dudes just dont value bet A9 there, so I folded.

BobSloane

Hand 2 looks to me like 10xh where he's hoping you have a ten also and he can freeroll for the flush...or maybe not.

fuzzbox

Ste05 wrote:

[EDIT: P.S. Please post more hands just for the thread titles... although maybe it's the imagination needed that's stunting your posting prowess lately..]

Why thank you, but its actually my lack of playing time that has stunted it most of all.

fuzzbox

opr wrote:

1/

I don't think we are good against his range in this hand so i fold.

I am sure thier are loads of combo draws i am missing but we are flipping against most of these so they don't matter that much in the calc.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

53,460 games 0.140 secs 381,857 games/sec

Board: Kh Jd 9d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.125% 54.78% 00.35% 29284 186.00 { KK+, JJ, 99, AKs, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, Ad9d, KQs, KdJd, KdTd, QdJd, QTs, JdTd, AKo, KQo, QTo }
Hand 1: 43.875% 44.53% 00.35% 23804 186.00 { Js9s }

Edited as i hadn't KQ in range which is a big part.

I should call against this range though ... right?

There is 16+38+38+200 in the pot (292) and I have to call 200.

So I get 3:2 on a ~5:4 shot, so its a call (although its close).

However, I am looking and I think you missed that the Jd & 9d is on board (you have to remove AdJd, KdJd, QdJd, JdTd , Ad9d from your range calcs). That prolly changes the game quite substantially.

cardshark202

Ok I won. Whats the prize?

fuzzbox

cardshark202 wrote:

Ok I won. Whats the prize?

I'll give it to you when I see you.
I made it myself.

ligger

fuzzbox wrote:

INNNN ONE

hero thinks

Are we sure this is Fuzz??

Should have guessed you'd FLAG to all 3.;)

Lack of play these days. Kids = Bad beat sticky.:p

opr

fuzzbox wrote:

I should call against this range though ... right?

There is 16+38+38+200 in the pot (292) and I have to call 200.

So I get 3:2 on a ~5:4 shot, so its a call (although its close).

However, I am looking and I think you missed that the Jd & 9d is on board (you have to remove AdJd, KdJd, QdJd, JdTd , Ad9d from your range calcs). That prolly changes the game quite substantially.

Yeah sorry heres the calc without the combo draws that should not have been included and it actually better not worse.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

53,460 games 0.005 secs 10,692,000 games/sec

Board: Kh Jd 9d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.125% 54.78% 00.35% 29284 186.00 { KK+, JJ, 99, AKs, AdQd, AdTd, KQs, KdTd, QTs, AKo, KQo, QTo }
Hand 1: 44.875% 44.53% 00.35% 23804 186.00 { Js9s }

When its this close i tend to fold as i feel while the equity calc is close he needs to be as you say yourself pushing the one pair hands fairly hard for this calc to be accurate enough that its a call. Even when we think he is its so close i am not sure that its worth it.

Opr

valor

2 and 3 arent close IMO, I think the fold is pretty bad in 3, we are good there a bunch because people are dumb and they DO value bet worse aces for sure

#1 is very close, I think folding is marginally better though. I dont like the raise size though, I would make it more

fuzzbox

valor wrote:

#1 is very close, I think folding is marginally better though. I dont like the raise size though, I would make it more

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