www.driveadeal.ie

foxy06

Has anyone used this site to sell their car? I got a text off them the other day randomly and I was going to use them. Any one any experience from them?

bazz26

No experience of this crowd.

To be honest I think you should wait and see if you can sell the car yourself. Personally I don't see the point in giving a middle man €50 for something you can do yourself.

Seth Brundle

You got a random text off them? Did you supply them with your details and agree to that?
If they did effectively spam you then I would complain to the data protection commissioner rather than give them business.

smash

€20 more expensive than carzone.... and they have no reputation

Gregor Samsa

foxy06 wrote:

I got a text off them the other day randomly and I was going to use them.

Assuming you did get an unsolicited text, why would you respond to shady business practice by entertaining the idea of giving them your custom? In sending you the unsolicited text, a company is basically saying "We're either ignorant of, or unconcerned with, the law. Are you gullible enough to give us some money?".

As kbannon said, report them to the DPC and bring your custom elsewhere.

fletch

steve06 wrote:

€20 more expensive than carzone.... and they have no reputation

But they advertise it on carzone and autotrader for you(this alone would cost the €50) and then a few more sites too.

Gregor Samsa

Of the 8 websites they say they'll advertise your car on, 5 are powered by Carzone...

and mickscars.ie and micksgarage.ie are the same business.

So they advertise on 3 sites, not 8.

smash

Well I doubt they have an agreement with these companies so I doubt they'll last long.

fletch

I wonder if your car doesn't sell after 4 weeks, will they repay the €20 to autotrader to get the ad renewed or do they have a deal with autotrader.

smash

more to the point... if you're dublin based how does he sell your car to your target market... he's based in limerick!

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Search&MaxRows=150&BusinessID=1723

I'd say he'll be pulled down for abuse of service from carzone. Looks like he's reselling their service.

Chris Scallon

My Name is Chris Scallon and I own the site your are talking about. I was glad to see that some have found it of help. You may find it of help to visit our other sites to realy find out what we do. We also buy and sell cars every day and that is the main reasion we text people selling vehicles.

One of the most important parts of vehicle buying after the vehicle its self is how much you end up paying for the loan. If you care to check out our site you will clearly see what we do every day for customers --link removed-- Should any one like to contact me my email is --link removed-- my mobile is xxxxxxxxx and the office no is xxxxxxxxx. You see we have nothing to hide and will in any way help when we can. Regards & Thanks. Chris Scallon

P.S. If you read the Customer Testimonials on our main page --link removed-- You may get a better feel for us.

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mike65

*ahem*

Mike.

aye

Chris Scallon wrote:

My Name is Chris Scallon and I own the site your are talking about. I was glad to see that some have found it of help. You may find it of help to visit our other sites to realy find out what we do. We also buy and sell cars every day and that is the main reasion we text people selling vehicles.

One of the most important parts of vehicle buying after the vehicle its self is how much you end up paying for the loan. If you care to check out our site you will clearly see what we do every day for customers --link removed-- Should any one like to contact me my email is --link removed-- my mobile is xxxxxxxxx and the office no is xxxxxxxxx. You see we have nothing to hide and will in any way help when we can. Regards & Thanks. Chris Scallon

P.S. If you read the Customer Testimonials on our main page --link removed-- You may get a better feel for us.

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could you explain why the OP got a random text off you?

Chris Scallon

I have no understanding as to why anyone other than someone selling a car would every get a text from us. After all it costs us to send then and we are only in the car and car finance business we also offer leasing. Perhaps we miss keyed it. Should we have done so we are most sorry as it has never been are practise to do so. I hope this answers your question and please look at the sites so you can understand what we do and the amount we can save the public.

smash

Do you have an affilliation agreement with the sites you advertise on?

foxy06

I had the car advertised in the Buy and Sell. But never asked for the text. I actually got a call from carzone too about selling the car too and didnt ask for a call from them either.

Also don't think you can put up pictures on the site so that could be why its cheaper than doing it through all of the sites seperatly.

bazz26

I maybe wrong here but my gut feeling is that this whole thread is just pimping the website.

foxy06

Well I can assure you that I have nothing to do with them and I started the thread. I just put an ad in the buy and sell and them got a random text. I checked out the site address given in the text and wanted a bit of reassurance from the experts here before I try it. I thought it would work out cheaper but I'm not really convinced quite yet from what everyone is saying.
Dont want to pay for advertising twice for the same thing.

smash

foxy06 wrote:

I had the car advertised in the Buy and Sell. But never asked for the text. I actually got a call from carzone too about selling the car too and didnt ask for a call from them either.

Also don't think you can put up pictures on the site so that could be why its cheaper than doing it through all of the sites seperatly.

carzone don't cold call and I know that for a fact... are you sure it wasn't autotrader?

sesswhat

Chris Scallon wrote:

My Name is Chris Scallon and I own the site your are talking about. I was glad to see that some have found it of help.

Who found it of help?

Chris Scallon

foxy06 wrote:

Also don't think you can put up pictures on the site so that could be why its cheaper than doing it through all of the sites seperatly.

To try and answer all your questions.. Yes have an affiliation with all of these sites. It just works differently for us as we are a car dealer registered with them rather than a member of the public hence why we can offer the service for a discount.
Regarding the photos yes you can send us photos to upload on all of the sites unfortunatley at the moment our website is under construction hence the reason you cannot upload them from there.. However, you are more than welcome to send them via an email to the same address and we would be more than happy to include them for the same price!! As for renewing with Autotrader after four weeks be assured that once your car is advertised with us it does stay online until it is sold this even includes the autotrader!!

De Hipster

Chris Scallon wrote:

To try and answer all your questions.. Yes have an affiliation with all of these sites. It just works differently for us as we are a car dealer registered with them rather than a member of the public hence why we can offer the service for a discount.

You are affiliated with Carzone and Autotrader as a reseller? Will they verify this?

smash

So any of us can register as a dealer and then just resell the service no problem?

aye

steve06 wrote:

carzone don't cold call and I know that for a fact... are you sure it wasn't autotrader?

No neither of them cold call. Car Buyers Guide does tho, perhaps it was them. To be honest when i get cold called, or a random text i generally wouldn't put my car up on the site because if i wanted to i would have already.

alias no.9

I've been the recipient of cold calls from advertisers in the past when I had cars for sale in the B&S. I certainly didn't appreciate them. They're probably exploiting a loophole w.r.t. data protection since, by advertising, you've invited calls regarding the car for sale. For others advertising cars, it's useful to add the words 'no canvassers' to your add if you don't want to have to put up with this crap. If they text or call you then, they're quite clearly in violation of the Data Protection Act so report them to the DPC.

Finally, Chris Scallons first post quite clearly includes advertising, even though it's for a service rather than a car. That's in violation of the charter of this board. Could a mod remove the offending phone number, e-mail address and URL. Nuisance agents should not be getting a free ride here.

oleras

alias no.9 wrote:

I've been the recipient of cold calls from advertisers in the past when I had cars for sale in the B&S. I certainly didn't appreciate them. They're probably exploiting a loophole w.r.t. data protection since, by advertising, you've invited calls regarding the car for sale. For others advertising cars, it's useful to add the words 'no canvassers' to your add if you don't want to have to put up with this crap. If they text or call you then, they're quite clearly in violation of the Data Protection Act so report them to the DPC.

Finally, Chris Scallons first post quite clearly includes advertising, even though it's for a service rather than a car. That's in violation of the charter of this board. Could a mod remove the offending phone number, e-mail address and URL. Nuisance agents should not be getting a free ride here.

the guy is on defending his business, and as for getting a call if you add "no canvassers" to your add.......... in breach of data protection ?? maybe you could show me that section of the law.........:rolleyes:

Seth Brundle

alias no.9 wrote:

Finally, Chris Scallons first post quite clearly includes advertising, even though it's for a service rather than a car. That's in violation of the charter of this board. Could a mod remove the offending phone number, e-mail address and URL. Nuisance agents should not be getting a free ride here.

They have been removed now.

OKenora

Totally pointless rant about "advertising" and even more pointless editing.....The topic title is www.driveadeal.ie, maybe all references to that URL should be removed too as it's blatant advertising ? Then again this topic would have little point if it was removed (as if it has much anyway)

While you are editing, edit out every other url or phone number on boards that is likely to generate business for anyone, oh wait that would be stupid and pointless too.

biko

Chris Scallon wrote:

I have no understanding as to why anyone other than someone selling a car would every get a text from us.

It does not seem Chris explained how they got OPs number in the first place

A bit of research show that driveadeal is owned by vehicleconsulting.ie which is loosely affiliated with autotrader.ie so I guess once your number is available to AT everyone gets it somehow?

alias no.9

oleras wrote:

the guy is on defending his business, and as for getting a call if you add "no canvassers" to your add.......... in breach of data protection ?? maybe you could show me that section of the law.........:rolleyes:

He can defend his business without seeking to advertise.

I don't have the text of the law but I'll explain it to you. It is similar to when you get a cold call, you can ask them to delete your name and contact details from their records and never contact you again, if they do contact you again, it's an offence.
If you want to be more proactive about not getting unsolicited calls, you can also contact your phone service provider and tell them you do not want to recieve any unsolicited calls and they'll accordingly put you on a register. Any unsolicited callers are then commiting an offence.
Similarly, you can contact AnPost and tell them you do not want any junk mailings. They put you on a register. Again, anyone who then sends you junk mail is comitting an offence.
In this case, you would be quite clearly stating that you do not want anybody to contact you that is seeking to sell you a service or act as an intermediary. You're being proactive, similar to contacting your phone service provider or AnPost, except this time it's regarding the specific case rather than in general. They can no longer claim to be responding to your add. To call in this situation will be an offence.

Chris Scallon

By posting my URL's, personal email address and my mobile telephone number I made a very clear statment that we simply have nothing to hide. As a company we buy and sell cars for a living and many advertisers are indeed very happy to sell us their vehicles. It seems that most, if not all, didnt take the time out to check the website out which I wont repeat least I offend anybody again!!
If you're selling a car we may want to buy it. Hope this helps.

alias no.9

OKenora wrote:

Totally pointless rant about "advertising" and even more pointless editing.....The topic title is www.driveadeal.ie, maybe all references to that URL should be removed too as it's blatant advertising ? Then again this topic would have little point if it was removed (as if it has much anyway)

While you are editing, edit out every other url or phone number on boards that is likely to generate business for anyone, oh wait that would be stupid and pointless too.

I have no problem with the title, it was a genuine query. I have no peoblem with people sharing experiences of good service from any company or recomending a company.
When a company or a representative of a company seeks to promote their own business, that's where I draw the line, I don't think it's on. The charter for this board says the same.
Maybe it's the type of service that this guy is promoting and the fact that I've got nuisance calls from similar in the past that gets my back up. If they haven't got a high enough profile to get customers onto their books, they should buy some advertising.

alias no.9

Chris Scallon wrote:

By posting my URL's, personal email address and my mobile telephone number I made a very clear statment that we simply have nothing to hide. As a company we buy and sell cars for a living and many advertisers are indeed very happy to sell us their vehicles. It seems that most, if not all, didnt take the time out to check the website out which I wont repeat least I offend anybody again!!
If you're selling a car we may want to buy it. Hope this helps.

The practice of companies soliciting people to advertise with them by trawling through adds published elsewhere really annoys me, in case it wasn't already obvious. I do have two questions for you all the same

1. Do you buy cars into stock?
2. If so, do you source these in small adds such as in the buy and sell?

Chris Scallon

Yes we buy cars into stock and we sell them. I have been in the motor business for over 20 years. Anyone in the Limerick area would most probably have heard of me. I opened Ireland's first car supermarket in Limerick back in 2001 and one in Galway and Cork. I won't add the name as that would be advertising a company that I sold some years back. With regard to advertising you can find our leaseing company in the Limerick Post most weeks (No Names Again). I have always used the small adds to find cars and also web sites. Without trying to advertise our services I would like any one to find a company that takes the phone calls for you on your car for sale and because we offer the lowest rates of car finance in Ireland makes their car as affordable as we do.

biko

Chris can you explain how you obtain telephone numbers for text advertising?
I always go private for cars so don't get these texts.

Chris Scallon

Unfortunately I dont really understand the question.. We buy cars from companies and private individuals alike and have been doing so in limerick in excess of 6 years. In fact we are often the only people that will do it as dealers often refuse to do so even though they've sold the car in the first place and most likely made a handsome profit. Hope this helps.

yop

What a bow licks thread "Has anyone heard" and shock bleeding horror the owner just happens to appear on boards too!! Fate is magic isn't it!

Chris Scallon

yop wrote:

What a bow licks thread "Has anyone heard" and shock bleeding horror the owner just happens to appear on boards too!! Fate is magic isn't it!

We were totally unaware of any conversation concerning out business until we received and email at approx 12.30 telling us that we'd been rumbled, that we were charging €20 more than carzone and that our website was **** with a link to this thread!!
The last time I came across something like this it was sent by a web designer trying to gain more business. I cant quite remember the name of the company but it was something to do with light and they were based in Ranelagh Dublin. I understand they often use this ploy to extract large amounts of money on web design thats totally unnecessary!!

oleras

Chris Scallon wrote:

We were totally unaware of any conversation concerning out business until we received and email at approx 12.30 telling us that we'd been rumbled, that we were charging €20 more than carzone and that our website was **** with a link to this thread!!
The last time I came across something like this it was sent by a web designer trying to gain more business. I cant quite remember the name of the company but it was something to do with light and they were based in Ranelagh Dublin. I understand they often use this ploy to extract large amounts of money on web design thats totally unnecessary!!

Chris, i dont think you should be sending unsolicited text messages advertising your business, slap on the wrist for that one, tis against the law to be generating potential client lists from the likes of buy and sell, maybe you were unaware of this.
As for the nature and quality of your business, i dont think that is in question here, you are a second hand car salesman after all........

Chris Scallon

I need to run now and will be back in the morning. Thanks for all your coments. Getting back to the question in hand Try it see what happens. Most of you have my details. I am here to help.

Regards & Thanks

Chris Scallon

Darragh29

steve06 wrote:

carzone don't cold call and I know that for a fact... are you sure it wasn't autotrader?

It was more than likely Car Buyers Guide, the king of the cold callers. They have a whole team of people based in Sandyford cold calling people who put ads in Autotrader and also Buy & Sell. Obviously staff turnover is extremely high when your cold calling all day long, which explains why they have several "Sales Executive" jobs advertised permanently on their own website and also on www.jobs.ie. These jobs have been permanently advertised for around two years now.

foxy06

OKenora wrote:

Then again this topic would have little point if it was removed (as if it has much anyway)

I thought this was a forum? I had a question and I asked in the right forum so whats the problem? I didn't ask him ( the business owner) to come on.

I want to say AGAIN that I have nothing to do with this company its a genuine question and BOARDS.ie is hardly an anonymous little forum hiding in a hole in the internet......I'm sure he may have heard it off someone.

Anyway I've decided against the idea and will advertise it myself.
Thanks everyone with helpful replies.

sicruise

Chris Scallon wrote:

I need to run now and will be back in the morning. Thanks for all your coments. Getting back to the question in hand Try it see what happens. Most of you have my details. I am here to help.

Regards & Thanks

Chris Scallon

Your charging €50 euro per ad to private sellers! This is completely against your agreement with carzone.ie...

Check the T&C

4.6 The Advertiser warrants that: a) it is a motor dealer and it has (or the relevant motor dealer it is acting on behalf of has) the right to offer for sale any vehicle advertised by it and it will not use the site to offer vehicle resale on behalf of undisclosed third parties.

BTW... sorry about the signature... nearly as bad as him!!

smash

Chris Scallon wrote:

The last time I came across something like this it was sent by a web designer trying to gain more business. I cant quite remember the name of the company but it was something to do with light and they were based in Ranelagh Dublin. I understand they often use this ploy to extract large amounts of money on web design thats totally unnecessary!!

Wow Chris that's very professional and mature of you... I ask you a few questions that you don't like and you can't answer so you look me up, find my company and discredit my company by trying to start a rumour that I'm a "web designer trying to gain more business" by using a "ploy to extract large amounts of money on web design"... It's laughable, actually it's slander too.

Goes to show what kind of person you are, hope you get banned.