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fret_wimp

Hi.
My bro just completed a degree in engineering. He wanted to do the 4 year honors degree, but only got as far as doing the 3 year pass degree.( also he cant repeat as the course doesnt allow it so doing the course at nights is out of the picture). he thinks this is the end of the world and is quite down about it. he thinks it limits his prospects. I believe if he gets in the right firm he can work his way up. can anyone tell me what the prospects? he wants to become a head engineer at some stage but as a lecturer referred to his degree as a "baby degree" he thinks its worthless.

Moonbeam

Can he not do an add on in and IT? Probably worth a look.

fret_wimp

no, as he didnt outright fail, that means he cant repeat, and even if he did outright fail and repeated , the hightest he could get is a pass degree. i think its a great achievement but i want to show him that by showing him that he can get any job he wants with a bit of effort . as im not in engineering i need some of you engineering guys to help me out here! hes a wiz on autocad. it was maths that held him back i believe and other such nasty topics

Borzoi

It does limit his prospects, no doubt about that

Did he study here or in the UK? I didn't realise that there was anywhere in Ireland outputting enginneers with pass degrees.

Long term he will have to do further study. In fact the IEI have recentlly announced that from2013, a masters degree will be require dto gain chartered status.

But that's long term.

ballooba

Not all masters require a honours degree surely. Not every college can attract honours graduates.

He essentially what was a pass dipolma, Level 7? From an IT or a university?
In which field of engineering?

I'm Mechanical/Manufacutring and technician's get paid as well as Engineers, sometimes better, because of shift allowances, and you can progress to management.
It is tough to get a good technician job though, as you are competeing with tradesmen who graduate with four years work expierence!

If he is involved in the add-on system his final degree won't be affected by his Ordinary degree results. He may have to do some work expierence to progress through, but I think that is extremely useful.
If he is a particular institute that has such a rule, transfer to another.


There are always opportunities for furthur and continuing education in engineering.

BTW a technicians salary is also comparable with the lecturers.
Employers are concerned with what you have proven you can do through your past work expierence.
Your hard earned bit of paper, that the lecturer who never grew out of college values so much, is often practically ignored.
It might effect his ability to get his first job, maybe. After that he is being judged on the strength of his work expierence. So I think it is a waste of time repeating for a better grade.

damnyanks

He could try to transfer into a college else where.

As far as jobs go, it depends on what his degree was in. While what happened to him is a bitch and could be a hinderence in a large multinational further down the line (Some are snobbish when it comes to mid-management and above).

He'll have to break his bollox a little unless he is lucky and lands a sweet gig. If he cant continue his education get him onto someone like cpl who will sort him with something.

fret_wimp

thanks for the info folks. hes in a firm at the minute and he's staying there for the next few months. wants to work, and forget about it for a little while. says he thinks he'l try repeating in a year.

Gumbo

sorry to drag up an old post, but i just passed, well in may i did, the same course as above.
basically its the old diploma or an ordinary degree in new terms.
i done mine in civil engineering taking the structural option after the technician cert year.

i done it all part time in DIT bolton street and basically you end up with a qualification from engineers ireland as BEng Tech AMIEI after your name.

i am working as a cad technician in a consulting engineers office the last 5 & 1/2 years while i was studying part-time and have no plans to go any further at present, i dont want to be an engineer, but i did do some research as to how to go about it part-time if it will help.

you can get the honours degree part-time up in jordanstown university in belfast, and it happens on thursday of every week.
my 2 friends continued on up there after DIT bolton street.

edited to say : Jordanstown is the only place in ireland to get the honours degree part time after bolton street, as we searched everywhere!!

copacetic

kceire wrote: »

i done it all part time in DIT bolton street and basically you end up with a qualification from engineers ireland as BEng Tech AMIEI after your name.

I know it doesn't really matter but engineers ireland don't give out qualifications. Bolton Street gave you your 'BEng Tech' (if thats what they call it now) and engineers ireland obviously let you join as an associate member. i.e Associate Member of Insitute of Engineers Ireland (AMIEI) although they may have dropped the first I now that the are Engineers Ireland?

If you decide to leave EI then you have to stop using those letters.

leeroybrown

kceire wrote: »

i done it all part time in DIT bolton street and basically you end up with a qualification from engineers ireland as BEng Tech AMIEI after your name.

That's quite a misleading statement. One doesn't just end up an as Associate member of the Engineers Ireland. In addition to the third level qualification you also need at least seven years of relevant engineering experience (three of which need to be after qualification) and then to apply for the status with a dissertation. Even if the qualification is accredited and most people can work towards this status as part of their normal job it's worth pointing out the extra requirements.

copacetic

leeroybrown wrote: »

That's quite a misleading statement. One doesn't just end up an as Associate member of the Engineers Ireland. In addition to the third level qualification you also need at least seven years of relevant engineering experience (three of which need to be after qualification) and then to apply for the status with a dissertation. Even if the qualification is accredited and most people can work towards this status as part of their normal job it's worth pointing out the extra requirements.

good info leeroy, this must be a new thing? When I graduated this wasn't a requirment, you got MIEI as soon as you had an accredited degree qualification. Also Associate member used to be what they called junior and student members, looks to have changed.