What exactly are the odds?

Pre-flop:

Hero: 4-4
Villain1: A-Q os
Villain 2: K-Q os

Neither of them are killing the others suits. What are the percentages pre-flop and am I right to go all in after V1 makes it 7,500 pre-flop and I have 9,200 and am short-stacked?

Note: V2 has about the same size stack as I do.

Macspower

Pokerstove says
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.310% 43.15% 00.16% 591418 2249.67 { 4c4d }
Hand 1: 34.633% 34.14% 00.50% 467932 6794.67 { AcQd }
Hand 2: 22.058% 21.56% 00.50% 295565 6794.67 { KcQh }


Need more info before I can give an opinion on good/bad

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Shadowless

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.046% 43.91% 00.14% 601888 1875.67 { 4c4d }
Hand 1: 34.560% 34.09% 00.47% 467325 6402.17 { AhQs }
Hand 2: 21.394% 20.93% 00.47% 286861 6402.17 { KcQh }

I take it after V1 raised, V2 calls and then it's your turn to act?
If so you are correct to call (assuming you know their exact cards mind you )

Dowload poker stove. It's free and does all these calcs for you.

Edit: Too slow as always
Edit: Link to Pokerstove

Ace2007

did he not say "Neither of them are killing the others suits." which mean that neither of the calculations worked out are right , would it not be Ah Qs, Kc Qd or along those lines...

Ace2007

Shadowless wrote:

Dowload poker stove. It's free and does all these calcs for you.

Edit: Too slow as always
Edit: Link to Pokerstove

I take it that its only on my laptop that there is an error after downloading and trying to run this program???

Macspower

Ace2007 wrote:

did he not say "Neither of them are killing the others suits." which mean that neither of the calculations worked out are right , would it not be Ah Qs, Kc Qd or along those lines...

you of course are right... this should be closer

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.014% 34.55% 00.46% 473635 6323.50 { AhQs }
Hand 1: 22.250% 21.79% 00.46% 298674 6323.50 { KcQd }
Hand 2: 42.735% 42.60% 00.13% 584001 1797.00 { 4c4d }


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V1 raises, V2 is behind me and but for the dealer would have called for all his chips out of turn but I have seen him do this about 3 times with junk aces and K-Q, K-J, etc. I do put V1 on A-K, A-Q, even A-J but he has slow played every pocket pair I have seen him play so unless he is a genius (and he has given me NO reason to believe he is) I correctly guess his range of hands. I know I am in the middle and there is a #n argument for letting them go to war but I am playing to win and there is a triple up on offer where I have a pocket pair and I, for once, correctly estimate their starting hands.

Is it the right call though?

Trippie

I think you could of let it go and wait for a better spot as you know you would of gotten another chance to get it in against someone with a weaker holding