Overbet on the river with 2nd nuts *sigh*

cooker3

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $101.85
BB: $45.80
UTG: $40.30
CO: $48.80
hero (BTN): $50.00

Preflop: hero is dealt T J (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, CO folds, hero raises to $2.50, SB folds, BB calls $2.00, UTG calls $2.00

Flop: ($7.75) K Q 7 (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, hero checks

Turn: ($7.75) K Q 7 7 (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.50, hero calls $0.50, BB calls $0.50

River: ($9.25) K Q 7 7 A (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG bets $16.50

Pot Size: $25.75

I hate this, isn't this like always the nuts yet I don't want to fold, should I call?

carfax

cooker3 wrote:

Flop: ($7.75) K Q 7 (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, hero checks

Turn: ($7.75) K Q 7 7 (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.50, hero calls $0.50, BB calls $0.50

:eek: .....There was a nice pot to be won on both of these streets Rob. Why not put in a good size bet on the flop?

RoundTower

mm you don't have the second nuts? 77 is possible with the weird bet sizes and I don't think he is bluffing very often, looks like a clear fold.

ozpoker

carfax wrote:

:eek: .....There was a nice pot to be won on both of these streets Rob. Why not put in a good size bet on the flop?

Agreed. Bet the flop.

But your title is wrong; you don't have the 2nd nuts, you have the 2nd nut flush, which is about the 25th nuts with paired board. All you really have is a bluff catcher. The pot odds you are being offered is ~5:3. The real question to ask is: will my hand be best here 38% of the time or greater? IMO, without any other information about the player, the answer is no. As played, fold.

-Oz-

dougee19

i'd say ur behind here.. to a7

phantom_lord

such an easy fold.

Ace2007

yep easy fold, and yep its the 9th nuts i think (if i counted it right)...

valor

bet the flop yo

mdwexford

valor wrote:

bet the flop yo

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cardshark202

valor wrote:

bet the flop yo

and fold now. I would call with the second nuts for sure

cooker3

Lol, I don't think it once registered that the board paired during or after the hand, what an idiot.
Yeah, flop check is pretty dodgy, my thinking at the time was I didn't want to be faced with a big c/r, thought it would put me in a awkward spot.

RoundTower

I think taking a free card on the flop is OK, you can hit a monster.

Ace2007

cooker3 wrote:

what an idiot.

defo have to agree with ya

pumpkinpints

looks to me like a bet to catch someone with the Ad.

cooker3

pumpkinpints wrote:

looks to me like a bet to catch someone with the Ad.

Not quite, they had the Ad or the nuts in my head.

pumpkinpints

cooker3 wrote:

Not quite, they had the Ad or the nuts in my head.

i.e. someone with a house knowing the guy wont fold the Ad

Shadowless

pumpkinpints wrote:

i.e. someone with a house knowing the guy wont fold the Ad

The only problem being that that would require a second Ad in the deck considering there's one already on the board!