2 pf spots.

phantom_lord

Think I screwed up this hand:

125 effective, (shortstack has 20 obv)

22/18/2.5, on four of my tables, has been 3betting a decent amount, i've usually had weak hands and just folded.

I've kk in the sb, ss makes it 4 utg +1, villain next to act makes it 12.

pretty sure the shortstack is gonna shove. what's my best line?






18/15/5, 105 effective

ss limps, villains makes it 5, I call with JJ. idiot with about 40 calls in the sb.

ss shoves for 20, villain shoves.

gambool gambool?

mrflash

hand one i say shove

hand two i would fold

Hawk Eye

Hand 1: Can villain (and you) raise to the shortstacks shove.
If not, than I think you have to 4-bet. Usually with shortstacks you just want to play straight forward and isolate them cause most play the shortstack bad but if you trust your read about his shove than this looks like a great spot to get trappy, you just never know what the full stack will do.

Hand 2: Call.

Van Dice

phantom_lord wrote:

Think I screwed up this hand:

125 effective, (shortstack has 20 obv)

22/18/2.5, on four of my tables, has been 3betting a decent amount, i've usually had weak hands and just folded.

I've kk in the sb, ss makes it 4 utg +1, villain next to act makes it 12.

pretty sure the shortstack is gonna shove. what's my best line?






18/15/5, 105 effective

ss limps, villains makes it 5, I call with JJ. idiot with about 40 calls in the sb.

ss shoves for 20, villain shoves.

gambool gambool?

1
Call, and shove if/when action gets back to you preflop.

2
For once nope! I pass almost always

Captain Tom

Van Dice wrote:

1
Call, and shove if/when action gets back to you preflop.

2
For once nope! I pass almost always

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cooker3

Hand 1 going by your read I call and then push when it gets back around to me.
Hand 2 I think I find a fold here

hotspur

1. Forget the shortstack possibly shoving, reraise it up to 30 odd.
2. Calling is a losing play with JJ against a preflop raiser who tanks it for a full stack after an all in reraise from a shortstack.

Tar.Aldarion

It is an underraise in the first hand if he shoves yeah?
raise.

phantom_lord

we can raise if the shortstack shoves btw.

Ace2007

phantom_lord wrote:

we can both raise if the shortstack shoves btw.

Is this because of the rules that are different in ireland and abroad, with regard to double the bet or double the original raise...cause the villian's raise is 8 more than the ss original raise to 4 and therefore, when the ss goes all in for 20 its a raise, if so, just limp if u think he will shove...

phantom_lord

it's a min raise, 4->12->20

phantom_lord

hand vs fastmachine.

ok?

Seat 1: SB ($97,00)
Seat 3: BB ($204,55)
Seat 5: UTG ($158,79)
Seat 6: Hero ($105,05)
Seat 8: CO ($132,10)
Seat 10: BTN ($38,55)

SB posts small blind of $0,50; BB posts big blind of $1,00;
Hero is dealt Qd,Qs

UTG calls $1,00; Hero raises to $5,00; CO folds; BTN folds; SB folds; BB folds; UTG raises to $16,00; Hero calls $11,00;

Dealing flop 4h,Kh,9h
Pot is: $34,50

UTG checks; Hero checks;

Dealing turn Kc
Pot is: $34,50

UTG checks; Hero checks;

Dealing river Jc
Pot is: $34,50

UTG bets $22,00; Hero folds;
UTG wins $53,85

Rake and uncalled bets: $2,65