Two $1-$3 dollar hands from LV

Silver-Tiger

1st hand is from the wynn poker room,

Villain is good player, Not lost a showdown in last hour but not always shown premium hands, A lot of people have came over congratulating him on his big scores online recently,

Me $220 Villain easily covers getting $400 < $800 within an hour

Full ring , 3 limpers to me in the cutoff, i Have AKo and make it $21, villain calls from big blind, Drunk french idiot calls directly to my right,
Villain checks dark,
Flop A78 rainbow, drunk idiot (worst player i seen over there) bets $25 i make it $80, Villain pushes, idiot folds
Me??

Hand 2 from caesers poker room,

Aggressive donk / calling station / monkey / minted old man,
open raises every hand he can

Stacks me $230 He covers
He is Utg + 1 and opens for $15
I am only caller on button with 9s7s

Flop K 7 3 rainbow
He Bets $20 i call
Turn 10
He smiles and checks i check also,
River 9
He speaks for the first time saying pay me off kid and leads for $30
Call / raise / fold???


All comments are appreciated

BigCityBanker

call and call.

Van Dice

Fold first hand and call second hand

OutOfPosition

Hand 1. Fold, you cant beat anything but a bluff. If he as u describe he is not making this play with AQ, you will get shown A8, A7 or 78s alot here imo. if he has a set your dead already

Hand 2. Insta Call

BigCityBanker

If you are behind in hand 1 then villian is not a good player. On a rainbow flop in a raised pot does he think you are there with a straight draw? If he is ahead with set or two pair he has been over zealous. In short I dont think a good player jams the flop like this, I also dont think a good player calls a raise oop with A7 or A8 in what at that point has potential to be a multi way pot with up to 5 players, then again you say he hasnt always shown down premium hands? Maybe he feels you are committed to the hand? This is a call for me. But then its acceptable to stackoff with TPTK isnt it? Well on this occasion I think it is.

Ace2007

hand 2 - i dont get y u called on the flop - am i missin something?

OutOfPosition

BigCityBanker wrote:

If you are behind in hand 1 then villian is not a good player. On a rainbow flop in a raised pot does he think you are there with a straight draw? If he is ahead with set or two pair he has been over zealous. In short I dont think a good player jams the flop like this, I also dont think a good player calls a raise oop with A7 or A8 in what at that point has potential to be a multi way pot with up to 5 players, then again you say he hasnt always shown down premium hands? Maybe he feels you are committed to the hand? This is a call for me. But then its acceptable to stackoff with TPTK isnt it? Well on this occasion I think it is.

He can have A8s or A7s or 78s and probably has u on the exact hand u have and doesnt think you can fold. anyway imo a call here is a donation

careca

Hand 1. I'd agree he probably doesn't have a set, if he did he'd probably want useless player along for the ride. I'm not sure he should be slow playing two pair on that board though (certainly not with 78). There is also the possibility that he has 56 or 910 and knows he has outs. I probably call, seen as you have close to half your stack in there already.

Hand 2. Call. In certain situations I would raise here, but with your description of the player involved and his speechplay, I would just call here.

El Stuntman

call both without even thinking

Silver-Tiger

I hate the dark check in hand 1 as in any hand its used, i felt i telegraphed my hand big time to the guy who pushed and he is a good player, a lot of people hate his play without seeing his hole cards,

Still no one has guessed what he had, it might change your opinion on how he played the hand.

Hand two i'll get out of the way
Stupid maybe putting it up, just seeing would anyone raise, i called of course felt i couldn't do anything else,
He tabled 9h3h for a worse 2 pair, this guy was terrible and most certainly would have called a big raise or shove,
Was not happy after the hand because i had him labelled as a serious monkey and just wished he didnt open his mouth on the river.

buck65

I'd call both.
I'd guess AJAX on first hand.

Silver-Tiger

In hand 1, i put a lot of thought and gave the villain A8s A7s 78 or 77 / 88 and i thought the villain had a good i dea of what i had,
I actually didnt think too long about it as fold was my plan as soon as he pushed, didnt think i was gettin odds to suck out,

While i was folding villain said what ya got man AQ maybe AK and he showed AK also,

Anyone like the way he played it??
smooth calling pre, checking dark and pushing ott of me, Got me to fold the same hand + $101 of my precious dollars

cardshark202

I might fold 1 too if I was playing deeper. Hand 2 I call quick.
Also, buyin for the max, instead of playing short.