King Arms Optics...opinions?

deepimpact

King Arms optics
Are they any good in general?
Looking for one for my MP5 and my lonely-looking weaver-rail.

This is the one from ehobby
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270137871905&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017

liamo333

I've heard some good stuff about them but dont have any expeirence with em.

deepimpact

liamo333 wrote:

I've heard some good stuff about them but dont have any expeirence with em.

Great, I know they make things like silencers but I never knew they made optics. Time to put the ehobby order through methinks...

BTW sorry if I'm spamming the boards O1s1n, not my intention to annoy others.

Mark_Sc

Not at all thats what were all here for

Ample Free ...?

I've got one almost the same. Looks identical but rather than 7 settings of red, my one's got 5 settings of red and 5 of green. The green is pretty ineffective though, also the different levels of intensity make hardly any difference but it's still very good. It's solid and robust and essentially does exactly what it says on the tin, puts a dot on the target and its easy to use. Just be careful to turn it off after using it or it'll eat up the battery.

Fallschirmjager

well 53 dollars is bloody expensive IMHO. since airsoft is fairly close range i dont think it is worth spending a lot on a scope. if you search ebay there are loads of them. those are open eyes scope and once they are fairly robust and you can alter the laser in the sight (which most of them do) i think you could save yourself a bit and put it on an aeg...

just my tuppence worth

o1s1n

I can't see much use for it myself in game either. You'd have more use for a telescopic one as that would allow you to look for the opposing team.

If it's just for pimpage though, that's another matter altogether!

liamo333

I'd have to disagree. I had a aimpoint on my mp5 and found i very useful.
I'd write more but I'm kinda tired. Any I'd reccomend them and will be buying another.

o1s1n

What I don't understand about them is this. At close to mid ranges, Iron sights should be more than enough to make a hit. Not to be able to do that would require one god awful aim.

At longer ranges I thought it would be made pretty redundant as there's no optical zoom.

That's on a purely practical level mind you.

If someone wanted to use one for the added realism and what not, than that's totally different.

Fallschirmjager

o1s1n wrote:

What I don't understand about them is this. At close to mid ranges, Iron sights should be more than enough to make a hit. Not to be able to do that would require one god awful aim.

At longer ranges I thought it would be made pretty redundant as there's no optical zoom.

That's on a purely practical level mind you.

If someone wanted to use one for the added realism and what not, than that's totally different.

i agree...and i have one, i find it easy to use but i would be stretching it to say its necessagy...looks great tho!!!

liamo333

The advantage is you can aim with both eyes open meaning you have your full perphrial vision and extremely fast target accusition.

I find with iorn sights you only see what you are aiming at.

There fine for longer ranges and I actually think there better than iorn sights at a distance.

tonyj_mc

red dots are lot easier to use than iron-sights, plus both eye are open so more tactical awareness.

that and they look pretty good as well

ASI Casper

Have to agree with the last 2 posts.
Don't forget, red-dot sights are also commonly called reflex sights. They're called reflex sights for a reason.
They give much faster target aquisition than iron sights. I always use a red-dot where possible ( not possible with my shotty )
You also have a much wider field of view as you can keep both eyes open.
Eye relief is also unlimited, so your eye's position behind the sight does not affect how well you see the target or the aiming point.


A red-dot also doesn't occlude an area of your view as it's simply a floating dot. So it lets you get a clear view of what's below the dot. A player popping up and down from behind hard cover for example.
This isn't the case with iron sights.

Red dots are also superior to iron-sights for low-light or night-time for obvious reasons.

I'd never use any sort of magnification scope for airsofting though. No need if you have reasonably good eyesight and are limited to 1J.

Try one o1s1n!

kdouglas

Fully agree with casper, red dots are really handy to have and make aiming much quicker, I use one on my p90, and it's much easier to use than the iron sights, especially on the p90 because the iron sights are like pistol sights and very hard to aim with a mask on.

OP: cant say about Kind Arms optics in particular, I use one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ELECTRO-Holographic-MULTI-Reticle-Red-Dot-Sight-RDS-21_W0QQitemZ270145619743QQihZ017QQcategoryZ66827QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem and they are great for the price, has 4 different dot-styles (dot on it's own, dot with circle, dot with crosshair and crosshair), and 7 different illumination levels, just be sure to turn it off when your finished for the day, i always leave it on and the battery dies

Fallschirmjager

kdouglas wrote:

Fully agree with casper, red dots are really handy to have and make aiming much quicker, I use one on my p90, and it's much easier to use than the iron sights, especially on the p90 because the iron sights are like pistol sights and very hard to aim with a mask on.

OP: cant say about Kind Arms optics in particular, I use one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ELECTRO-Holographic-MULTI-Reticle-Red-Dot-Sight-RDS-21_W0QQitemZ270145619743QQihZ017QQcategoryZ66827QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem and they are great for the price, has 4 different dot-styles (dot on it's own, dot with circle, dot with crosshair and crosshair), and 7 different illumination levels, just be sure to turn it off when your finished for the day, i always leave it on and the battery dies

well to be fair kd, got the thread back on topic...i would get one..but i would not spend 40 dollars on one..

Fiach Dubh

Well I'll be ordering a Russian Kobra collimator sight soon myself. Had to wait a long time as they are expensive, won't get one for less then 200 Euro. They are tried and tested in practical application to be better then iron sights. In Chechnya Spetsnaz reported a 60% increase in accuracy and rapid target acquisition. As has already been said above it allows both eyes open firing and eye relief is unlimited. Moreover the AK's open iron sights are not the most accurate out there, good for short to medium range but bad for sharp shooting. The Kobra is superior.

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ya reddots and reflex sites are much better then iron site's in my opinon, and ya Casper i had considered one on my shoty aswell for all the reasons above, but then the realisation that it would be ...well ehh just wrong kinda kicked in .

NeMiSiS

I have used one on a paintball marker, they are fine for short to mid range, but anything after that you are kidding yourself, I set it up to about 80 - 100 ft sometimes a bit more. It cost 26 euro, it has a dot, and eight levels of brightness.. good for fast shooting.. or having to quickly line someone up..

Can be a hinderence though on ocassion, as it is hard to line yourself up with it while wearing a mask.. as you can not get down on the sight properly..

Good craic though.. I would never spend more than say 40 euro on one though.. ever..
TK

o1s1n

ASI Casper wrote:

Have to agree with the last 2 posts.
Don't forget, red-dot sights are also commonly called reflex sights. They're called reflex sights for a reason.
They give much faster target aquisition than iron sights. I always use a red-dot where possible ( not possible with my shotty )
You also have a much wider field of view as you can keep both eyes open.
Eye relief is also unlimited, so your eye's position behind the sight does not affect how well you see the target or the aiming point.


A red-dot also doesn't occlude an area of your view as it's simply a floating dot. So it lets you get a clear view of what's below the dot. A player popping up and down from behind hard cover for example.
This isn't the case with iron sights.

Red dots are also superior to iron-sights for low-light or night-time for obvious reasons.

I'd never use any sort of magnification scope for airsofting though. No need if you have reasonably good eyesight and are limited to 1J.

Try one o1s1n!

Hmm. Given me something to think about there.

The main reason I don't have one on anything I own yet is due to appearance. I really don't like the look of a red dot on the Famas. I'll hopefully be getting a long version FAL by the end of the month. Somehow I don't think a red dot would work on that either!

Kind of want to try one out now though just to see what all the hype is about.

Maybe N.O.I.P will give me a lend of his m733...

Shiva

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then the realisation that it would be ...well ehh just wrong kinda kicked in .

Heh heh....I remember trawling through ebay and a few, lets say "less reputable" airsoft sites and seeing loads of cheap-ass springer shottys with red-dots and laser sights mounted on them.

I still shudder whenever I think about them.

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The main reason I don't have one on anything I own yet is due to appearance. I really don't like the look of a red dot on the Famas.

id say one of these would look alot cooler on a Famas
http://www.rsov.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=105_129_171&products_id=465&osCsid=2c7a9271fd861e0f5f8cb4744400ea4a
i plan on getting one for my m249 if ever comes out :rolleyes:

ASI Casper

Shiva wrote:

Heh heh....I remember trawling through ebay and a few, lets say "less reputable" airsoft sites and seeing loads of cheap-ass springer shottys with red-dots and laser sights mounted on them.

I still shudder whenever I think about them.

hee hee. Well, the Benelli M1014 combat shotgun has a ris rail on the top. For the addition of red-dots and night-sites and the like. And I'm even considering the possibility of trying to add one to my Benelli M3 shorty, just for the purpose of adding a red-dot.

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id say one of these would look alot cooler on a Famas
http://www.rsov.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=105_129_171&products_id=465&osCsid=2c7a9271fd861e0f5f8cb4744400ea4a
i plan on getting one for my m249 if ever comes out :rolleyes:

Looks familiar.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/B-N-Electro-Red-Dot-Laser-4-Reticle-Reflex-Sight_W0QQitemZ320112069393QQihZ011QQcategoryZ7307QQcmdZViewItem

I got one nearly exactly the same as that off ebay. Arrived only yesterday actually. It's great for the price. And perfect on my MP7.

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was all set to get one for my mp7 aswell but im going see if its possible to carve away a bit of the holster thatl she'l be sitting in before i buy one.
hmmm a reflex site wouldnt look to wrong on an m3 would it? *ponders*

o1s1n

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id say one of these would look alot cooler on a Famas
http://www.rsov.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=105_129_171&products_id=465&osCsid=2c7a9271fd861e0f5f8cb4744400ea4a
i plan on getting one for my m249 if ever comes out :rolleyes:

Actually, that's a great idea.

A normal red dot scope just doesn't look "right" sitting on the carry handle. A reflex sight might look nice and dainty though.

Still no word on that m249? I'm beginning to think it was just a cruel joke

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Still no word on that m249? I'm beginning to think it was just a cruel joke

lies! lies i say! *runs of in tears*

deepimpact

ASI Casper wrote:

Have to agree with the last 2 posts.
Don't forget, red-dot sights are also commonly called reflex sights. They're called reflex sights for a reason.
They give much faster target aquisition than iron sights. I always use a red-dot where possible ( not possible with my shotty )
You also have a much wider field of view as you can keep both eyes open.
Eye relief is also unlimited, so your eye's position behind the sight does not affect how well you see the target or the aiming point.


A red-dot also doesn't occlude an area of your view as it's simply a floating dot. So it lets you get a clear view of what's below the dot. A player popping up and down from behind hard cover for example.
This isn't the case with iron sights.

Red dots are also superior to iron-sights for low-light or night-time for obvious reasons.

I'd never use any sort of magnification scope for airsofting though. No need if you have reasonably good eyesight and are limited to 1J.

Try one o1s1n!

Yes!!! That was exactly the wording I was looking for...
Tactical awareness...[COUGH], not for any pimpage at all

Evolute

im pretty sure the type of scope i had was king arms then it got shot and the lense cracked:( but i figured out how to get it out so now it just needs new batteries and a perspex lense so it wont crack as easily.
Its a really good red dot scope wasnt too expensive either it looks cool on my g36 id say itd look quite good on an mp5 too. it looks like this one in the link but they may have discontinued it im not sure

http://www.wolfarmouries.co.uk/airsoft/bb/product.asp?page=product&id=ACOGWOLF

The only reason i have used wolfarmouries is because i wasnt sure that uncompany and wgc links would work.