G/F taking up shooting!

Jonty

Hi all,

I brought her ladyship shooting today, I gave her a few shots and she printed a half inch group at 50 yards with my .22magnum off the bonnet of the jeep! I was fairly impressed. It was only the second time she picked up a rifle. She even brought home the target to show her mum:D The plan now is to bring her to Midlands for propper paper punching, as she has no interest in hunting. I think the main thing is to wean her onto the idea of shooting and not rush her into it. She was proud of herself today, and she has right to be.

Anybody else out there who got their other half into shooting?

Jonty

IRLConor

Jonty wrote:

Anybody else out there who got their other half into shooting?

I met my girlfriend in the rifle club in TCD, I dunno if that counts.

bullets

Thats good shooting for a first timer!

Im Working on it..... trying to get the GF to come shooting.
Like your girlfriend she has no interest in Hunting as she's a member
of Limerick Animal welfare.

Herself would not mind taking a few shots but has no real interest in it.
Was trying to convince her to come up to midlands with us one Sunday
but she keeps saying Nah its a boys day out. Problem would be she
would take a few shots and gets bored after a few minutes she would
then be stuck there for the day while myself and whoever else I was
with had a great ol time.

A .22 would be perfect for her to try. I would not trust her with a fullbore
pistol (if she ever did get the oppertunity to fire) as I reckon the recoil would
make her leave go of it. Also Shotgun I reckon would be too much kick for
her to enjoy. .22 is nice quite and easy for someone who has never shot.

~b

alan123

Ok. Lets think about it... you go out a few times with the misus and she gets into a bit of shooting and eventually she is really enjoying it and cant wait to go out. Now you are in the situation where you regularly go shooting and the misus ALWAYS goes with you (is the penny dropping?!).Then you are heading out for a few shots with one of the lads and you get the "Great! Ill get my gun!". Sometimes its better to keep somethings all for yourself!!!!!

Time Magazine

IRLConor wrote:

I met my girlfriend in the rifle club in TCD, I dunno if that counts.

A classy place if ever there was one .

kiwijbob

alan123 wrote:

Ok. Lets think about it... you go out a few times with the misus and she gets into a bit of shooting and eventually she is really enjoying it and cant wait to go out. Now you are in the situation where you regularly go shooting and the misus ALWAYS goes with you (is the penny dropping?!).Then you are heading out for a few shots with one of the lads and you get the "Great! Ill get my gun!". Sometimes its better to keep somethings all for yourself!!!!!

wise words my friend, take note all

Rovi

kiwijbob wrote:

wise words my friend, take note all

Indeed, and the old 'all guns cost less than €200' ploy won't work anymore either.

Ibid

Ibid wrote:

A classy place if ever there was one .

Careful you!

jaycee

Rovi wrote:

Indeed, and the old 'all guns cost less than €200' ploy won't work anymore either.

That and the story that the 'ould rubbish nightforce scope was included in that price, or that centerfire match ammunition costs a fiver a box.

The other snag , is that she may well out shoot you ... :eek:

Jonty

jaycee wrote:

The other snag , is that she may well out shoot you ... :eek:

If this happens, I'll hang up my shootin' iron.

IRLConor

Ibid wrote:

A classy place if ever there was one .

Oh yes. It's clean, spacious and smells of roses, the epitome of class.

Jonty

alan123 wrote:

Sometimes its better to keep somethings all for yourself!!!!!

I wish she'd apply this train of thought to clothes shopping

fathersymes

my ladyfriend shot my 6.5x55 at 100m and 3 shots touched! better than me

stevoman

alan123 wrote:

Ok. Lets think about it... you go out a few times with the misus and she gets into a bit of shooting and eventually she is really enjoying it and cant wait to go out. Now you are in the situation where you regularly go shooting and the misus ALWAYS goes with you (is the penny dropping?!).Then you are heading out for a few shots with one of the lads and you get the "Great! Ill get my gun!". Sometimes its better to keep somethings all for yourself!!!!![/QUOTE


well said. io can imagine the heartache of that. bad enough when you go out to do a few hours decoying and you say you'l be back by 8 or so. and then at 8 the phone rings, then again at 8.30, then 9........

you see the beauty of this is you can turn your phone off. imagine being stuck in the hide with the missus!!!!!! "C'mon now stephen its time to go home, we have to go over to my parents for dinner"

please...... i think i'l let her stick to her shopping!

Our man in Havana

Thankfully the wife cannot hold the rifle correctly and she can't see thru the scope so she won't be bugging me in that regard. She did say she would like to get a pistol. :eek: I dunno what to think of that tbh.

alan123

There a few words that just dont go together, below are a few:

homemade/plane
parachute/concrete
babysitter/Gary Glitter
holiday/Tuam
wife/gun

...somethings just werent meant to be!

Sparks

The good thing about this thread is that the next time someone asks me why you don't see more women in the sport, I'll have somewhere to point them.

Feck's sake lads, if you can't stand the girl, don't marry her; and if you need some personal space and feel you'd lose it, man up and tell her rather than saying that the sport's a Yorkie. It ain't rocket science...

kiwijbob

Sparks wrote:

The good thing about this thread is that the next time someone asks me why you don't see more women in the sport, I'll have somewhere to point them.

Feck's sake lads, if you can't stand the girl, don't marry her; and if you need some personal space and feel you'd lose it, man up and tell her rather than saying that the sport's a Yorkie. It ain't rocket science...

well said you're 100% correct, below is a pic of my wife down on Brittas beach...we had a great time

alan123

Is that an adams apple??!

Clare gunner

God Almighty!!!! Schwarzenegger in drag!!!:eek: I'd be grimacing too like that if I had to fire that POS!!:D

LB6

God - I haven't posted in here in ages, just pop in every now and again to keep an eye on you lot, but this one just bugs the living daylights outa me!

What's wrong with you men or should i say mice? I've never heard such crap before in all my born days.

So much for encouraging women into the sport. NICE! Just don't let me come in contact with any of you or i'll really put you on ur asses!

LB6
Irish FEMALE - shooting in International competition in ITALY next week!:mad:

Clare gunner

She would too guys..I've met her.:D

peter-pantslez

its ok mine is afraid of guns and wont even come in the room if im cleaning my guns:D

LB6

Oh come on CG. I'm not THAT bad!

Clare gunner

Nah Course not!How ya been?:D You going to come out with the formatative Clare Gunner gunclub one day,if this "Summer" weather improves somwhat?
Go get a few medals for us in Italy.BTW where you shooting?

LB6

Hiya CG - long time no see! I'm grand thanks for asking - you?

When you organise the weather, and I'll be over to you.

Competition is on in Milan 27th thru 29th July. I dont think I have a medal chance, but I'll def come back wiser! International competitors from all corners of the earth - gonna be a big shindig!

Nerves starting to kick in now :eek:

Manic Moran

My first GF was a range officer at UCD. The first proper date myself and the now-wife went on was to the local pistol range. (Then again, date #2 was to a tank museum, and the movie-at-home-afterwards was 'A Bridge Too Far').
Still, she does get a little disconcerted when she sees my pistol stored loaded by the bed, but I think she's getting used to it. Took her clay pigeon shooting as well, I think I might get away with buying us..er..her a shotgun.

NTM

Vinniew

Manic Moran wrote:

Still, she does get a little disconcerted when she sees my pistol stored loaded by the bed, but I think she's getting used to it. Took her clay pigeon shooting as well, I think I might get away with buying us..er..her a shotgun.

NTM

Please!!!!! Tell me ur kidding about havin a pistol stored loaded or otherwise by the bed!!!
AND.....posting it here!!!
If it's supposed to be a funny can you please indicate that clearly......J.Public/Gardai often take a peep in here and it's hardly productive for anyone owning or hoping to own a pistol.

Can some of the mods take a look at this please!!

Vegeta

Vinniew wrote:

Please!!!!! Tell me ur kidding about havin a pistol stored loaded or otherwise by the bed!!!
AND.....posting it here!!!
If it's supposed to be a funny can you please indicate that clearly......J.Public/Gardai often take a peep in here and it's hardly productive for anyone owning or hoping to own a pistol.

Can some of the mods take a look at this please!!

He's not living in Ireland so I while I would never do this myself I don't think it effects anyone applyiing for a license in Ireland

Rovi

Vinniew wrote:

Please!!!!! Tell me ur kidding about havin a pistol stored loaded or otherwise by the bed!!!
AND.....posting it here!!!
If it's supposed to be a funny can you please indicate that clearly......J.Public/Gardai often take a peep in here and it's hardly productive for anyone owning or hoping to own a pistol.

Can some of the mods take a look at this please!!

Take a look at Manic's 'Location'.

kiwijbob

Vinniew wrote:

Please!!!!! Tell me ur kidding about havin a pistol stored loaded or otherwise by the bed!!!
AND.....posting it here!!!
If it's supposed to be a funny can you please indicate that clearly......J.Public/Gardai often take a peep in here and it's hardly productive for anyone owning or hoping to own a pistol.

Can some of the mods take a look at this please!!

Manic Moran seems to be lucky enough to be outa the state!!

Location: San Jose, CA

Vinniew

Apologies to Mainc and any other outa-staters for my last post!
Never even occurred to me to check his location.

Vinnie
(back in his box!)

Manic Moran

Don't worry, it's a fair assumption that on an Irish boards, most posters will be in Ireland.
Though I have to say, I'm currently typing this from Dublin.

I just found it amusing that ordinarily one attributes a 'fear of firearms' to being unfamiliar with the things. Yet in this case, she's fired them, has no issue with owning them, is looking at a shotgun herself, but doesn't like it when I leave one loaded for purposes which are legal in California even though intellectually she knows that it's no more hazardous than one which is in her hand at the range.

NTM

OLDYELLAR

hEH I took my lad out to a rifle range for the one year anniversary , he looked fairly scared when I announced it but it was the 1st time for both of us and we loved it , hoping to get up there again now at the start of next month Cant wait would of been sooner only for money was tight.

I find loaded weapons to be the best test of a relationship LOL Im messin just for the record before anybody reports me again for advocating violence :rolleyes:

rrpc

Manic Moran wrote:

... but doesn't like it when I leave one loaded for purposes which are legal in California even though intellectually she knows that it's no more hazardous than one which is in her hand at the range.
NTM

One of the primary safety rules with guns is that they should be kept unloaded until they are going to be used. That means when you know you are going to fire it and it is safe to do so.

The majority of gun-related accidents occur because people have kept a gun loaded.

Every shooting organisation (including the NRA) have this rule in their safety literature.

Manic Moran

rrpc wrote:

One of the primary safety rules with guns is that they should be kept unloaded until they are going to be used.

Why do you think I keep it loaded and accessible? (vs my other firearms which are stored locked and empty) However, we are verging into territory unique to American law which is no longer permitted to be discussed on this board.

The majority of gun-related accidents occur because people have kept a gun loaded.

Male bovine fecal matter. The majority of gun-related accidents occur people because people fail to treat a firearm at all times as if it were loaded. It's the complacent 'Ah, it's not in use, so it must be unloaded' attitude which results in negligent discharges.

NTM

rrpc

Manic Moran wrote:

Why do you think I keep it loaded and accessible? (vs my other firearms which are stored locked and empty) However, we are verging into territory unique to American law which is no longer permitted to be discussed on this board.

RTKBA is not up for dicussion here, we are talking about gun safety. There is no reason that you couldn't keep a loaded mag handy but not in the gun for quick access. If somebody broke into your house while you were asleep, you are giving them a ready and usable firearm. Without a mag its just something to hit you on the head with.

Manic Moran wrote:

Male bovine fecal matter. The majority of gun-related accidents occur people because people fail to treat a firearm at all times as if it were loaded. It's the complacent 'Ah, it's not in use, so it must be unloaded' attitude which results in negligent discharges.

You seem to be making my argument for me. It's because of that attitude that you should always leave a gun unloaded.

sidneyreilly

rrpc wrote:

RTKBA is not up for dicussion here, we are talking about gun safety. There is no reason that you couldn't keep a loaded mag handy but not in the gun for quick access. If somebody broke into your house while you were asleep, you are giving them a ready and usable firearm. Without a mag its just something to hit you on the head with.


You seem to be making my argument for me. It's because of that attitude that you should always leave a gun unloaded.

Totally agree!

Clare gunner

Slight problem here guys.We in Ireland are thinking gun saftey in the sense of sportsmanship and non self defence useage.

Manic and others in the US can think in self defence /home invasion useage of firearms.And there is plenty of courses over there that teach self defence with a firearm,be it shotgun or handgun.Gun saftey is a paramount part of the course,but so is weapons retention,quick access to use, reloading drills knowing your home layout,the legal consequences of a firefight,etc.
It it not somthing we are fammilar with much over here,apart from the anti gun,Hollywood BS about people shooting their famillies,dogs, etc etc.Plus with now somthing like 45 States allowing their citizens to carry concealed weapons on permits,after a state run course in public.You can be double damn sure that Manic and others will not have the gun down somwhere where any old burglar will find it for easy use.Plus if this was the case you would want to secure your kitchen knives better.[most common used weapon by a burglar].There is alot more to this than loading up and going walkies around your house in the dead of nite with the shotgun. It is a whole different mindset than for targets or game.And one we cant really discuss here.

Manic Moran

rrpc wrote:

RTKBA is not up for dicussion here,

From the Charter.

It is not for the discussion of the use of firearms in self-defence,

we are talking about gun safety. There is no reason that you couldn't keep a loaded mag handy but not in the gun for quick access.

We'll just agree to disagree on practicalities then. I can argue this offline if you wish to pursue further.

You seem to be making my argument for me. It's because of that attitude that you should always leave a gun unloaded.

Is or is not the first rule of firearm safety to always treat a firearm as if it were loaded? If so, then the fact that the firearm is loaded will have absolutely no bearing on your behaviour as that is the default attitude to take from the second you touch one. Once you start treating loaded and unloaded firearms as different, you get to the famous last words 'I didn't think it was loaded.' That is what causes most NDs.

NTM

rrpc

Manic Moran wrote:

We'll just agree to disagree on practicalities then. I can argue this offline if you wish to pursue further.

Not necessary. I don't wish to discuss anything not on the boards charter and would prefer for this to remain on gun safety only.

Manic Moran wrote:

Is or is not the first rule of firearm safety to always treat a firearm as if it were loaded? If so, then the fact that the firearm is loaded will have absolutely no bearing on your behaviour as that is the default attitude to take from the second you touch one. Once you start treating loaded and unloaded firearms as different, you get to the famous last words 'I didn't think it was loaded.' That is what causes most NDs.
NTM

Treating all firearms as if they are loaded does not then imply that all firearms should be left loaded.

Not everyone who comes in contact with a firearm knows or should be expected or assumed to know any of the rules of firearm safety, that is why a firearm should never be left loaded.

I am specifically using the word left, as being out of your direct possession.

alan123

So, from this we agree... its a bad idea to bring your girlfriend shooting!

Manic Moran

rrpc wrote:

Not everyone who comes in contact with a firearm knows or should be expected or assumed to know any of the rules of firearm safety, that is why a firearm should never be left loaded.

Short of my wife, who knows how to operate a firearm, the dog, the cat, and a bunch of cuddly toys, there is nobody else who would reasonably have access to the thing. As I'm currently out of town, my pistol is unloaded and locked away, but that is more for the sake of theft than safety. I consider on balance that the merits of having an accessible and ready sidearm outweigh any likely detrement. If my situation ever changes (eg if I have kids) I will re-evaluate accordingly.

I am specifically using the word left, as being out of your direct possession.

Which is why, if I have kids, I will consider using a holster instead of the bedroom. Until then, I see little reason to change my practises.

NTM

rrpc

Manic Moran wrote:

Which is why, if I have kids, I will consider using a holster instead of the bedroom. Until then, I see little reason to change my practises.
NTM

Perhaps you would also consider not advocating an unsafe practice on an Irish bulletin board where your particular situation is not relevant?

Manic Moran

This started off by referncing the attitude of my better half. Quite relevant to the thread. This then turned into an issue of general firearm safety attitude, also quite relevant to the board, if a little off-topic on the thread. We appear to have a distinction on the level of what is or is not the point at which a line is drawn. I believe that as everyone who has access to the firearm knows correct firearm safety that there is no inherent danger from the firearm itself, and that the only possibility for hazard is from mishandling. You believe that the firearm itself constitutes a danger, a postion which I strongly disagree with.

NTM