Facing Two River Shoves

phantom_lord

1.

40/0.8/0.92 (my table selection rocks)

110 effective.

22

he limps on the sb, i already had it set to check my option (mistake?)


446

checked through

2

i pot for 2.5 (dead small blind in the pot)

9


pot for 7.5, he eh, shoves.

i've never seen him do this before.










2.

about 100 effective.

one limper, I have Qh10h in the bb

20/9/1.7 seems ok, only played about 30 hands with him.

1074

sb bets 2. i call.

Q

bets 4, i make it 16, he calls.

6

he checks, i bet 30, he shoves.

AdMMM

40/0.8/0.92 (my table selection rocks)

110 effective.

22

he limps on the sb, i already had it set to check my option (mistake?)


446

checked through

2

i pot for 2.5 (dead small blind in the pot)

9


pot for 7.5, he eh, shoves.


i know he has a really low af, but is this even close?


20/9/1.7 seems ok, haven't played many hands with him.

I'd call here too, putting him on a two pair before a set.

phantom_lord wrote:

2.



about 100 effective.

one limper, I have Qh10h in the bb

20/9/1.7 seems ok, only played about 30 hands with him.

1074

sb bets 2. i call.

Q

bets 4, i make it 16, he calls.

6

he checks, i bet 30, he shoves.

I call here, I'd have to put him on slow playing an overpair, a missed straight draw that he's trying to bluff his way out of or a lower two pair. Either way I think you have him tied down by the balls. Of course a set is always a possibility but I'd rather not think about that (maybe that's why I always find myself losing to them.)

Chucky the tree

how many hands do you have on the lad in hand 1?

phantom_lord

180.

Captain Tom

i cant really see folding hand 1 with flushes/straights on board. although id like to know whats those stats imply about villians play (dont have pokertracker obv).

i think 2 is closer. cant really see him valueshoving anything worse if he seems ok. id expect him to 3 bet the turn with a set though so there seems to be only 1 hand beating you. i guess there's a small chance he has 56c/78c type hands but i doubt he bluffs the river with so much in the pot. getting around 3-1 i probably call but wouldnt like it very much.

phantom_lord

Captain Tom wrote:

i cant really see folding hand 1 with flushes/straights on board. although id like to know whats those stats imply about villians play (dont have pokertracker obv).

:eek:


40/0.8/0.92

plays about 40% of his hands/ raises .8% preflop/ this bit is how aggressive he is, worked out by how often he raises compared to checking or calling, around 2ish is average, below one is very passive.

Kobraki

1) Calling this as there are too many hands you are beating.
2) Calling this too as you're getting a good price, dont like it though cause it reeks of 89, but as with the first one, theres just too many hands your beating (overpair, lower 2pr, bluff).

Chucky the tree

i fold hand 1 i think. The only hand we beat is a flush and i dont know if a 0.92er shoves a flush on a paired board with $7 in the pot.

cardshark202

Hand 1 is a horrible spot but I think you still have to call, he could still be bad enough to shove a flush there.

Hand 2 I call because there's too much in the pot to fold now even though its unlikely that he's shoving much we beat. I think this one is more likely to be a fold than the other one.

phantom_lord

1. is an easy fold if the river isn't a club right?

HiCloy

1. I Call as this guy will have a flush here pretty often
2. I fold, but marginal with those pot odds

phantom_lord

1. river was a great card, not so much when he shoved, he could be shoving the nut flush tho, and there's always the possibility he didn't realise the board was paired, at one stage during the session he made a mistake and blamed it on playing too many tables.

anyway, i kept looking at his aggression thinking **** **** **** **** he's got 99, but he might have a flush! **** it. i call.

he had 66, nice slow play sir. this is about the 4th set over set I've had this week, but this was the only one i think i could have gotten away from.



2. ugh, i really thought he had 89 here, i only called because of the size of the pot. he had 106, ship it. pretty lucky for me.

i dunno what he was doing on the turn, unless he thought i had 89c maybe, but then he shoves the river anyway. meh.