Donkament Hand

Shadowless

Jackpot Freezeout tonight. I'm short after getting cold-decked in the first hand. Don't know the Villan but he seems to be playin fairly abc stuff.
The second level (50-100) has just started.

Hero: 1600
Villan Covers (Just under 3K I think)

Folded round to Hero in the cut-off who makes it 350 to play with 8h7h
Villan on the button raises to 850 total...

How do we feel about a stop-go here?

Chucky the tree

Not 100% sure, but is a stop and go a call then shove on the flop no matter what?

Shadowless

Chucky the tree wrote:

Not 100% sure, but is a stop and go a call then shove on the flop no matter what?

Yup

Slash/ED

You're going to have half a pot sized bet left, I don't really like it at all. Just let the hand go.

Chucky the tree

Shadowless wrote:

Yup

pretty bad. Your gonna be shoving about 800 in a 1600 pot, so hes getting 3/1 to call and he will do that with pretty much anything.

Lazare

A stop and go would be horrible as you've absolutely no FE, you're giving him 3/1 to call.

Shadowless

Lazare wrote:

A stop and go would be horrible as you've absolutely no FE, you're giving him 3/1 to call.

You're all undoubtably correct of course.
Knew I mangled this one fairly badly alright.

I just couldn't let it go with nearly quarter of stack in there. :rolleyes:
Oh well, another early night for me!

MacStacked

With 16BBs u do not want to be getting jiggy with suited connectors..

Fold and its not close.

Shadowless

Open-fold?

a-k-47

sometimes i limp if the player is passive and less inclinded to play it hollywood style. stop go here is a pretty sick strategy regardless of flop with not alot of FE to villain unless hes a total donkey. As played fold to rr.

phantom_lord

i think raising to 300 and folding to a reraise is fine.

Slash/ED

I'd open limp depending on the blinds, if you think you can get a cheap look at a flop go for it.

MacStacked

Shadowless wrote:

Open-fold?

Fold now no question.

I dont like raising preflop for 25% of your stack with 78 either tbh..

phantom_lord

it's folded to him in the cut-off, not raising is really bad!

Shadowless

Edited to get rid of dodgy 1 o clock in the mornin maths.

Hope this thread dies swiftly tbh.

Chucky the tree

No easy call. I love getting my stack in as 30% dog...

LuckyLloyd

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Ace2007

shadowless - 78h???

what has happened to you... its a tournament, not a cash game- throw it away as fast as u can.... dont' u remember all those tips that i use to give u... just throw everything away and play tight-

Hectorjelly

stop and goes stopped being an effective tactic more than a year ago

phantom_lord

it seems to be all the rage among shortstacks on ipoker atm. or at least the ones I'm playing anyway.

Ace2007

didnt the OP want this thread to die quickly, not much chance of that happening with me and you phantom....