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New Ps3 Price Point!!!!!!! [not!!!]

  • 11-07-2007 5:58pm
    #1
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    PS3 is to be officially cut in price, or rather a new official package to be announced tomorrow,
    PS3 with 2 Sixaxis controllers and Motorstorm and Resistance for €599.
    Sweet!!!!!!!!

    Glad I haven't bought one yet.

    Sorry for those that did, now you know, or erhaps remember what it felt like when the Xbox price was dropped all those years ago!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭jonny72


    CiDeRmAn wrote:
    PS3 is to be officially cut in price, or rather a new official package to be announced tomorrow,
    PS3 with 2 Sixaxis controllers and Motorstorm and Resistance for €599.
    Sweet!!!!!!!!

    Glad I haven't bought one yet.

    Sorry for those that did, now you know, or erhaps remember what it felt like when the Xbox price was dropped all those years ago!

    Thats a pretty crazy price for a console, you can get a PC for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭Clover


    good package that and all for €599 , although when you buy a new system you will always pay a higher price than someone who buy's it a few months or even a year later .

    it happened when i bought the first xbox and it was bound to happen with the ps3 to boost sales , just as with the first xbox it's happened quite fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    PS3 is to be officially cut in price, or rather a new official package to be announced tomorrow,
    PS3 with 2 Sixaxis controllers and Motorstorm and Resistance for €599.
    Sweet!!!!!!!!

    IS that for the new 80 gig model they are releasing everywhere else?

    Will that mean they will be dropping the other model down to 499 like they did in the US?


    though I admit it sounds sweeter then the US version which is 599 for the 80 gig model + motorstorm, no 2nd controller or resistance. Even I am tempted at that price...

    Gears of War announced for the PC has put me off a 360 for a bit longer cause thats what happened with the xbox (all its good games showed up on the PC at some point, so why bother wasting money on two machines when one can do.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    still a savage price 600 yoyo's, and to top it all the games are 75 quid a pop, you would need pretty deep pockets


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Yeah, hopefully deep deep pockets filled with cash that the wife doesn't know about, not that likely methinks.
    But at that sort of package, take away the extras and its not a bad deal, the machine alone is working out at €430 or so, then the extra stuff brings it to 600, given that they are the sort of things most gamers will be buying I think its not a bad pack over all, not dissimilar to older machines, certainly brings it closer to the 360, especially if you factor in the value of the Bluray drive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭mayto


    it'll probably a lot cheaper when theres actually decent games to play on it, even with the price cuts its not worth it. Are they going to have a 500euro package with no games or extra controller? as the average person still isnt going to pay 600euros no matter what they give away with it. Luckily I got a discount when I got mine at launch so a price cut now aint too bad, but still too much for something I havent turned on since April!

    It'll be a big seller here when its 300 euros with a free copy of pro evo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭neGev


    Great, a slightly cheaper console with no games worth playing.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Perhaps no exclusive games worth playing but if you come to buy a machine and don't own a next gen console then I reckon there are enough titles to play abd keep you interested until SCE get their thumb out. I reall think the new PS3 pack could well swing it in the traditional christmas gift buying season this Oct to Dec, especially for the ignorant parents who think Playstation=Gaming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Where is this from?

    Nothing has been announced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭neGev


    From what I've heard, this price cut is US only, which may or may not be true. It stands to reason though, given that Sony doesn't give a **** about Europe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Don't expect a price cut here, I think it's more likely they'll just do a new bundle (ie you'll get more in the package for the same price as before).


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,405 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Screw it, I'm off to Boston in August and I'm sure to get it at least 100 stingers cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg




  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,186 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    It feels like Sony actively hate Ireland and the UK , charging us more,for a lot less a lot later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    they are $659 in boston then add state tax which i think is 5%. was thinking of picking one up there when i was there in may. decided against it though for some reason most possibly that i'd get bored of it before any games i really wanted to play on it were released and when the games i want to play got released i wouldn't bother buying them at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    That's crazy money for a console. I'll be waiting untill one of them comes way down in price, PS3 or the Xbox 360 elite.

    Their bloody robbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    they announce a price cut of 30 euros, throw in two games at 70 euros each and a controller at - dunno how much they cost lets say 45 each.

    it's not a bad deal in my eyes, considering you're getting a blue-ray drive as well.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    The release of the Elite may well shake things up, I reckon we'll see the demise of the core 360 pack, with the hardrive included 360 retailing for 250 to 300 and the Elite aiming for the PS3 end of the market, although the fact it doesn't include a HD player could hurt it, despite the inclusion of HDMI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭Crucifix


    Is there any news on when the rumble controllers are coming out? The bundle won't be as inticing if the two controllers are about to be old hat.
    I don't want to get too tinfoil hat, but it could be a bit of a scheme to off load some of the old controllers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Crucifix wrote:
    Is there any news on when the rumble controllers are coming out? The bundle won't be as inticing if the two controllers are about to be old hat.
    I don't want to get too tinfoil hat, but it could be a bit of a scheme to off load some of the old controllers.
    September is looking the most likely, at TGS. Nothing official though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    As far as I know Europe, obviously, aren't getting any price cut as of yet. And no 80GB PS3 either, so I'll gleefully give them my middle finger and tell them where they can shove their over-priced, over-hyped, and over-done bells & whistles of a console. The 360 and the Wii own the market now and always will. The console that's being out the longest in the current generation always wins cuz of the popularity and the time developers have had to unleash the power of it. Classic examples are the PS1 & PS2. (Granted there was the Saturn & the Dreamcast respectively but they were rushed to beat Sony's releases causing developer's to fúck up games with the limited time they had)

    Why pay so much for a console when the 360 graphics is evenly matched with the ports(and on some occassions better than the PS3)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    just stick a 250gig laptop hard drive into it, if you want to fight the cause. :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,405 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Duggy747 wrote:
    The console that's being out the longest in the current generation always wins cuz of the popularity and the time developers have had to unleash the power of it. Classic examples are the PS1 & PS2. (Granted there was the Saturn & the Dreamcast respectively but they were rushed to beat Sony's releases causing developer's to fúck up games with the limited time they had)

    The Dreamcast had one of the best launch line-ups ever and had a huge amount of quality exclusives released continuously until the end of it's life. It also wasn't 'rushed'. The PS2 hadn't one decent game for 8 months but sold because of the Playstation name. I think sony were confident that the PS name would carry the PS3 again but it really hasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Retr0gamer wrote:
    The Dreamcast had one of the best launch line-ups ever and had a huge amount of quality exclusives released continuously until the end of it's life. It also wasn't 'rushed'. The PS2 hadn't one decent game for 8 months but sold because of the Playstation name. I think sony were confident that the PS name would carry the PS3 again but it really hasn't.

    I didn't necessarily mean the Dreamcast was rushed in the same way as the Saturn, the Dreamcast was a pretty damn good console. I was actually sorry to see it's demise as there really were some quality games. I remember being gobsmacked at Shenmue when they showed previews for it.

    As for exclusives on the PS3 (I'm a little outta date on consoles so feel free to help / correct me on this one) the only ones I can think of that people give a toss about are:

    GT 5
    Metal Gear Solid 4
    Tekken 6
    Final Fantasy XIII
    Killzone 3

    Now, I ain't sure about Virtua Fighter 5 or Unreal Tournament 3

    For the 360 we got:

    Splinter Cell
    BioShock
    GTA IV Episodes
    Halo 3

    There's a few more but I can't think right now, the looming thought of the weekend is here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    Duggy747 wrote:
    Killzone 3

    Now, I ain't sure about Virtua Fighter 5 or Unreal Tournament 3

    Since you asked ;)...

    Killzone 2.
    Virtua Fighter 5 is coming to 360 with online play.
    UT3 is a timed exclusive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭kaisersose77


    think Tekken is coming out on 360 aswell now or maybe not, but theres no sign of any of those sony exclusives coming out anytime soon. They'll probably be showing cgi videos again of them this time next year. But it wouldnt matter if they were all out now, ppl arent going to pay 500/600 euros no matter what it can do. Ands its gonna to be an awful long time before we see it being sold for 300 euros it seems. Most ppl in Ireland dont have hdtv's and arent gonna care at all about Blu-ray as they can just rent/buy the same film on dvd. I'd say there'll be massive ad campaigns when pro evo comes out, but wont be any use when ppl see the price of the ps3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    On a side note, the real nail in the dreamcasts coffin was EA's refusal to release any of their titles on the console.

    Something the 360 is having no problem with, in fact EA seems to be overjoyed with the 360 (and the Wii and the PS3).


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,186 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Duggy747 wrote:
    As for exclusives on the PS3 (I'm a little outta date on consoles so feel free to help / correct me on this one) the only ones I can think of that people give a toss about are:


    For the 360 we got:


    BioShock
    Being pedantic I know , but that's a PC title that's getting a 360 release so its not exactly an exclusive.


  • Moderators Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭Azza


    http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8039

    If it makes you feel any better about living in Europe the the 60GB PS3 is being discontinued in America after the stocks of them run out...so the price cut is just a temporary thing. Soon there will only be the $599 80GB PS3's available state side. The only reason they are giving the Americans the 80GB hard drive is to compensate for giving them the same PS3 us Europeans get as in no Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthesizer chips so reduced backwards Compatibility.

    this strikes me as more Kamikaze type marketing from Sony?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭Fnz


    Crucifix wrote:
    I don't want to get too tinfoil hat, but it could be a bit of a scheme to off load some of the old controllers.
    I hear ya, I was thinking the same thing! Perhaps we we have just become cynical. Not surprising considering how Europe seems to be 'the bitch' in the eyes of the console manufacturers.

    We'll just have to take what we're given and be thankful for it. :D :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Very cynical lot aren't you!
    I reckon the new pack is a serious effort to boost sales in the face of stiff competition here from the 360.
    And I can see it working too, given the ill-informed publics obsession with any games machine with "Sony" written on it, any suggestion of added value that the shops can use as a selling ploy will shift units like wildfire, may be Q4 before its seen but I really hope Halo3 is as good as MS hope it is, or the 360 could be sunk.

    Nintendo must be laughing their asses off, watching these high tech companies lose even more money by further discounting machines that already cost more to make than to sell, and with a couple of games thrown in, there's even less money to be made from software sales in the 1st place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    If they had lowered the price by €150 or so then I may have been tempted but as it stands the PS3 (even if it is with one decent game, one average game and an extra joypad) remains overpriced.

    For €400 you can buy a 360 with three top games (Gears of War, Forza 2 and Crackdown) and an extra-joypad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭honru


    I concur. If it was €500 for that pack, I'd probably consider getting it. I don't think it's a bad deal, but there's just not enough exclusive titles to justify paying that much at the mo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Stephen!


    wheres this extra controller you can get with the 360? i thoguht it was a play and charge kit!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,267 ✭✭✭mcgovern


    I'd been trying to convince my friend to buy a 360 since, but he had point blankly refused saying he was waiting for the PS3 cos its a Playstation and thus bound to me infinitely superior in everyway.
    Yesterday he told me he had bought a 360 because the PS3 is too expensive and has no good games.
    He is your typical PS2 owner, and the sort of people Sony are losing. At €50-100 more expensive they might consider buying a PS3 over a 360, but not at €200+. Even the new package will not change this as you can get a 360 with 3 games for €400 and the PS3 will be €600 with 2.
    He doesn't have Blu-ray, doesn't know anything about it, and doesn't care. In fact, I doubt more than 2 of my friends with PS2s (which is basically them all) know what Blu-ray even is.
    Now obviously this might change in a year or two (I doubt it though, people are happy with DVD), its not going to help the PS3 in the mean time that one of its main selling points is a big meh for most people, and if it is two years, then the race will most likely have already been lost by Sony.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭kaisersose77


    thats it though, the typical person doesnt have clue what blu ray and doesnt want to know. A hdtv lcd to them is a thin telly that looks nicer than there old tv. I'd say theres more ppl in Ireland who have lcd's with no HD source connected to their tv than ppl who have a HD source connected to one. The next pro evo is coming out on the ps2 and thats all a lot of pp care about. I wonder how many ps3's were sold outside Dublin, not a lot i'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭fatgav


    when can we pick these up? where will have this bundle first??


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    18th of this month, I was in game yesterday looking at the Ps3 bundles and I asked one of the minions about the package, to which he looked rather uncomfortable and said they don't anything about it as it was only announced, didn't look like they were shifting too many of them anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭fatgav


    the 18th is wednesday. will it be in the shops then or am i being too optimistic?


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