Pistol

ViperGTS

Hi all.
At the min. I have a VSR 10 and i'm seriously thinking about buying a pistol. Ane1 got any recommendations on a certain 1 to buy? I've read that TM are one of the best for build quality but can sometimes lack in range and accuracy. I was considering their Desert Eagle 'Hardkick' or the Colt Python 4"
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
John

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HFC beretta's and KJW sigs/m9's are a great choice [their metal unlike TM versions] cant comment on which would be the best Desert Eagle though except that the TM version isnt metal[if that matters to ya ]. Is it a Desert Eagle your set on?

Mark_Sc

Well if you want a pistol then i dont suggest a TM since they are nearly all plastic. There arent many desert eagles out there and i have only ever seen a Colt Pytho on www.wgcshop.com. I suggest something this; http://www.rsov.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=105_142_150&products_id=508&osCsid=17ca40d02627b86c44ee2ac4ff5456d4 if you want a gas one or this; http://www.rsov.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=105_142_150&products_id=302&osCsid=17ca40d02627b86c44ee2ac4ff5456d4 if you want a electric one.

Personally i would go sor an electric one if I only had a sniper rifle because they have large clips(usually hold around 30 or so), are easier to prepare(no need for gas) and are a little more relyable.

Fiach Dubh

I have to agree with Scope, KJW Beretta's and SIG's are workhorses. I have the full metal KJW SIG P226 myself, it runs great on propane and has never misfired on me. I've racked up a few kills with it too

ViperGTS

It doesn't exactly have to be the Desert Egle. Just thought it looked well. If I get an electric are u losng much power compared to a GBB? What kind of fps would ya be talkin about?
Again thanks for the help, savin me buyin things already.
John

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the AEP's shoot out at around 200fps which is grand for close combat. theirs the one Mark linked to and theirs a beretta and a glock aswell , but stay clear of electric blowbacks though their just terrible

CrazyRabbit

You are only ever going to use a pistol for CQB, so power/range is not that important. Accurate, easy-to-reload and comfortable pistols that can hold a decent number of bb's are preferred.

If you are not concerned about blow back, then the Glock 18c is very good. Full auto/single shot....31 rounds....accurate...comfortable and easy to reload (no gas). It's got it all. It's very difficult to strip/rebuild though if you ever need to fix it.

If you want gas blow back, then I can't really comment as I have little personal experience with them. I did like the WE 1911 though, and it's fairly cheap I believe.

Fiach Dubh

CrazyRabbit wrote:

You are only ever going to use a pistol for CQB, so power/range is not that important. Accurate, easy-to-reload and comfortable pistols that can hold a decent number of bb's are preferred.

If you are not concerned about blow back, then the Glock 18c is very good. Full auto/single shot....31 rounds....accurate...comfortable and easy to reload (no gas). It's got it all. It's very difficult to strip/rebuild though if you ever need to fix it.

If you want gas blow back, then I can't really comment as I have little personal experience with them. I did like the WE 1911 though, and it's fairly cheap I believe.

All my pistol kills have been in field games not CQB. A good blowback using green gas/propane is well usable at longer ranges.

o1s1n

To be honest, electric and gas pistols shouldn't even be lumped into the same conversation

They're completely different. I find myself that with the blowback, you feel like the gun is firing every shot. On electrics, it just feels like a plastic molding that has a motor inside of it. If you get me..

That said, the likes of the Marui g18 electric are decent enough. Just comes down to personal preference. Not having to fill the magazine with gas is a definite bonus.

Off the top of my head...

Gas advantages -
Long range.
Moving slide with every shot.
Some have a slight kick.

Electric advantages -
No need for gas...
Because of the above one, they're more reliable in cold weather.

Anyone else able to think of any more AEP advantages?

gandalf

After my first couple of skirmishes I have come to the opinion that pistols are useless, I will be getting a Galaxy MP5 PDW or MP5K to act as the secondary weapon.

Why am I against pistols. Firstly the whole gas situation is a pain in the ass (not to mention the smell from propane!), you only get 2 mags on a fill if your lucky and then if you fire too many rounds then you can have a freeze up. Next people seem to lose pistols easily, like Lemming and his brand new USP as Barrage last week (although that ended on a happy note being found). Number of rounds, yes I do realise that pistols are only suppost to have low rounds but in airsoft thats a right pain in the oriface.

Now I love my KJW Sig P226 Full Metal, I nearly get wood firing it but I want to wrap it in wool not take it out where it can get dirty and wet. The HFC M190 may be ABS but again I like it alot but again I wouldn't see myself using it in CQB.

Now a MP5K on the other hand would be the perfect close quarter accessory

Fallschirmjager

o1s1n wrote:

To be honest, electric and gas pistols shouldn't even be lumped into the same conversation

They're completely different. I find myself that with the blowback, you feel like the gun is firing every shot. On electrics, it just feels like a plastic molding that has a motor inside of it. If you get me..

That said, the likes of the Marui g18 electric are decent enough. Just comes down to personal preference. Not having to fill the magazine with gas is a definite bonus.

Off the top of my head...

Gas advantages -
Long range.
Moving slide with every shot.
Some have a slight kick.

Electric advantages -
No need for gas...
Because of the above one, they're more reliable in cold weather.

Anyone else able to think of any more AEP advantages?

electric ones have the most ridiculous magazines...bordering on down right embarassing...coupled with, where to store them...but then again the idea of no gas is appealing...

but, each to their own...my better half has ordered a hfc desert eagle...so if f you want to wait a week or so...she can post a review of it..its a friggen hand cannon by all accounts..LOL

on the sniper issue, i would think if you are getting into the issue of having to use a backup weapon (aka you are in deep poo), you might be better looking at say a mp5k or something that fires volume...but thats just my panic mentality kicking in and why i am crap as a sniper...

Fallschirmjager

seems we are of a mind gandalf...

gandalf

Well I did just take pocession of a USR11 Snipers Rifle and like you I'd be a big wuss wanting to spray and pray to save my ass in a tight situation

(btw is wifey's DE a Full Metal jobbie??)

Fallschirmjager

no i dont think so, just abs...and it over a kilo even at that....

o1s1n

The OP didn't actually mention skirmishing at all. Or using the pistol as a backup. Maybe he just wants it for plinking in his yard?

I definitely wouldn't go sniper with just a pistol as backup though. SMG all the way.

Miscreant

o1s1n wrote:

I definitely wouldn't go sniper with just a pistol as backup though. SMG all the way.

I agree with you there. An MP5K PDW or P90 would be ideal. I would still recommend a SIG p226 though but not as a sniper backup, more for CQB or if you are really stuck (jam, out of ammo, battery dead.... yada, yada).

Fiach Dubh

A number of snipers up at Pred were using pistols as backups when I was there and seemed to have no trouble. One sniper was using a Colt Python and got a kill with it when he was engaged at close range. There's an old test pilot saying "It's the man not the machine" goes for Airsoft too I think.

o1s1n

Oh no. I'm not saying its not an option. Actually I'd consider the most skilled snipers to just use a pistol. Maximum maneuverability.I just wouldn't do it myself

Fiach Dubh

Well I can see the attraction of using an SMG as a backup, the only problem I think though for a sniper is you want to reduce noise as much as possible when you move. It's very hard to attach an SMG to your body and not have it bang around and make noise or catch on foliage and other obstructions. Machine pistols maybe, MAC-11 or VZ61 can be holstered quite easily and you can get a dropleg for the MP5K but it's hard to get and quite expensive. You also have the dilemma of what to do with the sniper rifle while you wield the SMG. Throw it on your back with a sling? Fair enough but you won't be able to move through cover with speed as it'll be catching on foliage. Also long rifles are quite uncomfortable on the back if you aren't very tall, they'll hit of the ground every time you crouch.

But as you said this isn't even the topic at hand