Interesting

Victor

So, the NRA is funding this project on the N8 called Cahir Cashel-Mitchelstown.

Except well, thats a misnomer as it stops on the Cork/Limerick/Tipperary border, well short of Mitchelstown.

Now rather than admit that it stops short of Mitchelstown - they moved Mitchelstown!!

http://www.nra.ie/News/DownloadableDocumentation/file,4662,en.pdf

corktina

thtas actually interesting as that is roughly the location of Mitchelstown Caves....ie nowhere near Mitchelstown......(i believe its the Cashel to M not the Cahir to M project...)

Niall1234

Not much interesting about it.

The Cahir - Mitchelstown stretch of the N8 is going to feed onto the Mitchelstown relief road.

The Mitchelstown bypass will be part of the Fermoy (Moorepark) - Mitchelstown section which is going to tender soon I believe.

Victor

Niall1234 wrote:

The Cahir - Mitchelstown stretch of the N8 is going to feed onto the Mitchelstown relief road.

No it won't - there will be a gap.

http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/int/dyn/controller/mapPerformPage?strCountry=919&strAddress=&strMerged=Mitchelstown&x=0&y=0#locid=31NDFyd3ExMGNOVEl1TWpZeU9EWT1jTFRndU1qY3dOak09

http://www.phmcc.com/N8EIS/Volume3-Drawings/1_2ProposedRoad/1_2_1.pdf

Niall1234

I'm guessing that the road will feed onto the old N8 at the last cross over point ?

This scheme is due to be ready within a year IIRC ?

Zoney

If one looks at plans* for Mitchelstown-Fermoy it's clear that the Cashel-Mitchelstown section ends east of Mitchelstown, well before the start of the relief road.

Mitchelstown-Fermoy is essentially the Mitchelstown bypass proper. The existing relief road is just that; a relief road for traffic going from the secondary/R routes coming into the town.

*(hmm... I'm not sure where they are/were)

Victor

Apologies, the above may not be the clearest. More detailed map attached.

Bogger77

there looks like a round about being build about 300yds from the northern end of the relief road. I'm guessing there'll be a road fromt here to the end of the mway, while the remaining section to Moorepark is built.

Chris_533976

Whats funny about that is that the new road will be far more bendy and longer than the old

corktina

Chris_533976 wrote:

Whats funny about that is that the new road will be far more bendy and longer than the old

thats true...the section as far as Cahir from Mitch is quite good as almost straight.....

I think Victors original point...tongue in cheek...was that the map appears to show Mitch. too far to the right.....

MLM

The pace of construction is fast. The Cahir to Cashel section could be open by the end of the year. They're already erecting road signs on the section outside Cashel. The NRA might not be the best at map-making, but at least our roads are getting built a bit faster.

corktina

we had contractors surface a long section of road outside our house yesterday....perfect job, as good as my drive WITH a camber (unusual in my experiance) and they finished bar the finishing touches in the one day...Cork CC couldnt do that in a month and the job would be sub standard...(dont believe me? see the N72 near Longueville House west of Mallow....took more than three years for half a mile and bumpy as hell with no camber...)

The mitch to Cashel road is making great strides isnt it! I see evidence of road builing now south of Nenagh on the N7...It strikes you travelling in UK that there is little or no new road building going on there.....hasnt this little country come on well recnetly.

Chris_533976

Its good alright but I still question leaving Cork-Limerick on the long finger when its in such a terrible state.

corktina

the only bad bit really is the bit either side of Buttevant...the rest is tolerable I think....

(imho they should have built just one mway...cork to dublin VIA Limerick.....)

invincibleirish

corktina wrote:

the only bad bit really is the bit either side of Buttevant...the rest is tolerable I think....

(imho they should have built just one mway...cork to dublin VIA Limerick.....)

that'd be pretty handy for you in kanturk eh?

Chris_533976

corktina wrote:

the only bad bit really is the bit either side of Buttevant...the rest is tolerable I think....

(imho they should have built just one mway...cork to dublin VIA Limerick.....)

Nah Blarney - Mallow is alright, Mallow - Croom is intolerable.

Given the choice, I wouldnt bother upgrading the N20 much, I'd route Cork - Limerick via Mitchelstown. Would be just as easy to build a new motorway from Mitchelstown to Limerick.

corktina

invincibleirish wrote:

that'd be pretty handy for you in kanturk eh?

yep and no....we always go to Dublin vis Limerick even though its 10 miles more....the Mallow Mitchelstown road is awful.

North of Buttevant is OK surely especially if you know the back way through Charleville....

Chris_533976

Its narrow 2 lane most of the way with no hard shoulder. And is windy and bumpy. IMO its woeful for the amount of traffic it takes.

Roll on the DC project

spacetweek

Chris_533976 wrote:

Whats funny about that is that the new road will be far more bendy and longer than the old

Yeah it's funny when they do that eh. E.g. the new N2 at Dublin, the M3 etc.

Happy Bertie

There is evidence to support that gently curving motorways are less likely to invoke fatigue than dead straight monotonous motorways, and in the case of this scheme the radii of the curves is so gentle that it won't cause sight line issues. In fact it will make it far more enjoyable drive with the adjacent Galtee Mountains.....I can't wait to drive this one when it opens.

Victor

Also the existing up and down on some routes may waste as much energy as the relatively minor extra distance.

dowlingm

Definite con - as someone who comes from the area, Mitchelstown is at the N8/N73 intersection, not at Kilbehenny. I mean, jebus that puts us in Tipp! Not on NRA!