Bomb Scare in London

jamieh

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1272910,00.html

...Scary stuff!!

DarkJager

Article wrote:

Sources say the perpetrators were not Irish, suggesting Islamic extremists were behind the potential attack, outside an American Express foreign exchange.

Were not Irish?? What kind of repressed bastards are they? The main threat to Britain is from Al Qaeda not the ****ing IRA.

Karl Hungus

When was the last bomb attack carried out by the IRA anyway?

Archeron

DarkJager wrote:

Were not Irish?? What kind of repressed bastards are they? The main threat to Britain is from Al Qaeda not the ****ing IRA.

That comment in the news article is really weird. I reckon they probably weren't Canadian or Peruvian either.

timmywex

a car with gas cylinders, sure, we'll call it a teroist attack, maybe someone was having a barbeque!!

Karl Hungus

timmywex wrote:

a car with gas cylinders, sure, we'll call it a teroist attack, maybe someone was having a barbeque!!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/mangue_chiquita/cooking_with_mustard_gas_av.gif

jamieh

DarkJager wrote:

Were not Irish?? What kind of repressed bastards are they? The main threat to Britain is from Al Qaeda not the ****ing IRA.

I just send them a mail through the feedback section asking them why they put the Irish reference in the article! And that I found it very insulting, etc etc.

We should all do the same for divilment sake!!

county

jamieh wrote:

I just send them a mail through the feedback section asking them why they put the Irish reference in the article! And that I found it very insulting, etc etc.

We should all do the same for divilment sake!!

i see they have updated their report or should i say they have swiped the irish bit from it

daveg

county wrote:

i see they have updated their report or should i say they have swiped the irish bit from it

No they haven't (9:02am):

Sources say the device was "massive" and the perpetrators are unlikely to be Irish, suggesting Islamic extremists were behind it.

seamus

I'm not sure what goes through some media hacks heads. When the first reports came out of a car bomb, some hack decided, "Wow, haven't seen a car bomb around in ages. I bet it's some IRA splinter group". Then every other agency tagged on, until someone pointed out the blinding obviousness of it.

DarkJager

I've filled out the feedback section of their website. Told them what a ****ing insult it is and its completely unneccesary in the context of the article.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

Sources say the device was "massive" and the perpetrators are unlikely to be Irish, suggesting Islamic extremists were the likely suspects.

Put out an APB for a male suspect, driving a... car of some sort, heading in the direction of, uh, you know, that place that sells chili. Suspect is hatless. Repeat, hatless!

Tinytony

I have a feeling there's a slight over-reaction on the part of British going on at the moment (could be totally wrong )

Giving the planning that's gone into previous Al Qaeda bombings it hardly seems likely that there next big attack would involve driving a Merc into some rubbish bins at 4 am.

DarkJager

http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhkfgbsnkfid/

krinpit

In fairness, it does state that Officers are keeping an open mind about who was behind the foiled attack.

So it's not totally out of context, given that Irish terrorists have a more notable record in these matters than, say, Canadian or Peruvian ones.

Saruman

I do not know why everyone is so upset over the comment about "perpetrators were not Irish".
I mean at the end of the day, Irish people have bombed London more times than any islamic extremists. Im sure there are people who might have jumped to the conclusion over there and caused trouble among Irish people.

In fact when i walked in the office today i was greeted with "I see the IRA are at it again" so if Irish people jumped to that conclusion then im sure English might too so they are letting people know.

BuffyBot

They've been expecting something to happen to coincide with Gordom Brown becoming Prime Minister. The last few days there have been a lot more police visible at train stations etc.

thebman

I don't see the big deal either. It happens every time their is a bomb threat in Britain.

Maybe they are trying to calm down the Irish haters in Britain. I'm sure there are plenty of people in Britain that as soon as they hear of a bomb threat or whatever, still jump to the conclusion that it was a probably an Irishman behind it.

whiskeyman

Oddly enough, I'd think the public would feel more secure if police keep saying they haven't ruled out the 'Irish' possibility.
At least they hope there'd be possibility of warnings, and the targets would be business centres and infrastrucure, as opposed to something like July 7th where high scale massacre is intended.
It's an odd comment, but try and make out what I'm saying. The British public are nearly used to the old IRA threats, but the 'Al-Queda' one is hugely feared.

Archeron

krinpit wrote:

In fairness, it does state that Officers are keeping an open mind about who was behind the foiled attack.

So it's not totally out of context, given that Irish terrorists have a more notable record in these matters than, say, Canadian or Peruvian ones.

Point taken, my indignant hysteria chip heated up there for a moment.
Still, I had thought (and hoped) that the paddies wouldnt be prime suspects anymore for this type of terrorism.

seamus

The more I read about this, the more suspicious I am that this was an exercise in telling the British public, "They haven't gone away you know".

They're claiming that this was a massive and sophisticated explosive (which presumes massive amounts of planning and control), yet the driver lacked the wherewithall to maintain control of his vehicle, crashed it into bins (and then fled), and the police somehow "made it safe".

It all seems a bit too, "Citizens of the UK: You are still in Danger. Don't stop supporting our war effort".

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Karoma

Wow. Great ****ing journalism:

'Sky's Tim Marshall said: "No doubt this was an attempted terror attack."'


Well done, ya muppets.

krinpit

There's no mention of it being a failed kamikaze job either, which Al-Qaeda are largely associated with. Maybe that's why they're looking outside the box?

digitally-yours

whiskeyman wrote:

The British public are nearly used to the old IRA threats, but the 'Al-Queda' one is hugely feared.

:rolleyes: yeah right you are

digitally-yours

seamus wrote:

The more I read about this, the more suspicious I am that this was an exercise in telling the British public, "They haven't gone away you know".

They're claiming that this was a massive and sophisticated explosive (which presumes massive amounts of planning and control), yet the driver lacked the wherewithall to maintain control of his vehicle, crashed it into bins (and then fled), and the police somehow "made it safe".

It all seems a bit too, "Citizens of the UK: You are still in Danger. Don't stop supporting our war effort".

¬_¬

I think what you said definately have weight and makes sense to me.
All these secret establishments plan such things to keep public vigilant.

viking

They've changed the sentence:

Old

Sources say the perpetrators were not Irish, suggesting Islamic extremists were behind the potential attack, outside an American Express foreign exchange.

New

Sources say the device was "massive" and the perpetrators are unlikely to be Irish, suggesting Islamic extremists were the likely suspects.

whiskeyman

digitally-yours wrote:

:rolleyes: yeah right you are

Why the sarcasm?
I don't think you understood my point.
Having lived in London during the early 90s, you got to see the public just go about their daily lives despite threat after threat, station and road closures etc...
However, a possible Al-Queda threat is more feared - that's my point.

Peter Collins

They mentioned Irish due to the type of attack planned, ie. a car bomb, although I agree is it is a ridiculous comment to publish, especially after the progress made inthe last few years.

People in your office said "I see the IRA are at it again"???

What kind of people do you work with??

I'd leave!

Jakey

Taken from the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6252276.stm

BBC wrote:

Intelligence sources said they were keeping an open mind on who was responsible for the car bomb.

"All options, including the Irish, are open at this stage," said the source.

I dont think it's a very sensible way to cover the paramilitaries in the north(which is what I presume they mean by 'the Irish') to me 'the Irish' means the entire Irish population.

jor el

I agree with Seamus, there's something very iffy about the whole report. The reports say that two gas cannisters and a bag of nails were found. That could be someone coming back from B&Q with stuff to finish off the decking. I have 4 gas cannisters and three bags of screws here beside me, should I be arrested?

I love watching the different reports as they come out too. Sky (being sensational as always) say here:
"after a "massive" explosive device was found in a car

Then you have Breaking news with
"The indications that we have got so far are that it was certainly a big device."
And now we have
"relatively small and made of some type of home-made explosive"

I'm waiting for the report that says it was actually a Zippo lighter and a box of fun snaps.

digitally-yours

Spin Doctors at media

Tony was right in a way when he said
News has changed from Fact to Comment and from News to Views.

Taking media's word for everything is not always the right

Just to read from the other side
There is a war on for your mind !
click here

Wossack

lol jor el ^^

Jimoslimos

bbc wrote:

"All options, including the Irish, are open at this stage," said the source.

No problem with them keeping an open mind and investigating the possibility of an IRA/splinter group attack, but do ye think they'd get away with..

"All options, including the Muslims/Pakistanis/Saudi Arabians, are open at this stage"

digitally-yours

Jimoslimos wrote:

No problem with them keeping an open mind and investigating the possibility of an IRA/splinter group attack, but do ye think they'd get away with..

"All options, including the Muslims/Pakistanis/Saudi Arabians, are open at this stage"

Well They can say Muslim That term includes Pakistanis and Saudis.

But I believe there is more chance of it being British of pakistani or saudi descent then any Pakistani or saudi.

Once again all this is Assumption.

Its possible some TakeAway manager was taking gas cylinders to resturant for cooking and etc and had his tool box or etc with him.

daveirl

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Jimoslimos

daveirl wrote:

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Because they'd never say Muslims/Pakistanis (as a whole religion/nation) were responsible for bombings - the term used would be "Islamic/muslim extremists". I think no-one would have a problem if the source had said "Irish terrorist organisations" or "republican dissidents"

griffdaddy

Those Irish, always up to something!
If a republican group wanted to do some damage, I'm sure they'd have been more successful than that, and wouldn't have targeted a civilian area.

Archeron

They appear to have removed the Irish reference and changed it to "police are keeping an open mind".

rudie-

viking wrote:

They've changed the sentence

anyone ever read 1984?? *shivers*
as they say, the title of george orwells famous novel is 2007, and it has allways been 2007...

krinpit

Ah come on, I don't think it's supposed to be a denigration of Irish people. Ironically, that is in itself blowing the situation out of all proportion.

mcaul

From tomorrow's news - advance copy from met police

"We have surrounded a house in Tottenham and have over 600 officers in a huge operation to apprhend the known terrorists"

And here's Sunday's news

"The car was a LPG fueled car (thus the cylinders) & the driver was pissed. When he crashed he fled cos he didn't want a to be caught drink driving cos his mamma would beat him up. A review of security in central londo is now being carried out"

Plug

jamieh wrote:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1272910,00.html

...Scary stuff!!

Not scary for me, i live in kilkenny...

shane86

I have to laugh at the responses here re the Irish thing, I really do. The Irish post late 90s have become known for piss poor bombing attempts in England, few of their devices even manage to explode. Im surprised the July 21st failed bombers havent blamed the bombmaker as being some tiocfaidh ar la Irish wannabe. The reason theyre not discounting the boys from the North is that the CIRA etc are the unskilled type who would make such a tits of the attack.

robinph

Just passed throught the bank during lunch and the Sky New they had on there was stating on the bottom of the screen that they had found a quantity of petrol in the car.

whiskeyman

robinph wrote:

Just passed throught the bank during lunch and the Sky New they had on there was stating on the bottom of the screen that they had found a quantity of petrol in the car.

I hope they don't look at the dashboard and see the timer, ignition, wires...

mcaul

mcaul wrote:

From tomorrow's news - advance copy from met police

"We have surrounded a house in Tottenham and have over 600 officers in a huge operation to apprhend the known terrorists"

Hah, and they end up arresting some poor irish people on a drinking weekend who were about to have a BBQ.

HelterSkelter

griffdaddy wrote:

Those Irish, always up to something!
If a republican group wanted to do some damage, I'm sure they'd have been more successful than that, and wouldn't have targeted a civilian area.

Why do you say that? The IRA targetted civillian areas lots of times.

AlmightyCushion

whiskeyman wrote:

I hope they don't look at the dashboard and see the timer, ignition, wires...

seamus

HelterSkelter wrote:

Why do you say that? The IRA targetted civillian areas lots of times.

Not at all. Sure Omagh town is just a big British Army compound. I thought everyone knew that...

Trojan911

Park Lane, London W1 now closed due to "suspect vehicle" in vicinity..


TJ911...

Dooom

Plug wrote:

Not scary for me, i live in kilkenny...

Lol, damn right, sure this sorta thing happens all the time in Hebron.