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Charity workers on the street

  • 28-06-2007 1:33pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Okay, so for the past 4 days my journey from home to work (including lunch) has been swarmed with people working in charities with positions all over the town. Anti-abortionist, child workers, homeless workers, etc. Now, I feel crummy walking by them with some excuse but I did sign up for one of them. The child workers seem to consist of young, hip, stoner-type kids but there is one emo kid in a pink t-shirt (I get angry when I see him) that seems to be very pushy towards people and I feel like decking him when he constantly comes near me. Obviously, you gotta be a bit persuasive in order to get the job done but this kid is pissing me off as I have to see him 4 times a day and is in the mood to put everyone down with our "rich" lifestyle. Anyone here ever had a problem with a charity worker?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    They get paid 10-12 euro per hour. This puts me off giving them anything. If I want to donate to charity, I dont want somebody making comission from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    No problems with Charity Workers, plenty of problems with Charity Workers threads though. Fcuking hate them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Gone West


    Tusky wrote:
    They get paid 10-12 euro per hour. This puts me off giving them anything. If I want to donate to charity, I dont want somebody making comission from it.
    and commission


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Slow Motion


    Yayyyy !!!! Another chugger thread :p Wear headphones and scowl works for me everytime ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭Don1


    "Can I have a moment of your time"
    "No thanks, I'm in a hurry"
    "Ah it'll just take a few minutes"
    "I haven't got a few minutes"
    "Ah come on, you look like somebody who cares"
    "Look buddy I don't have time, I'm not your new best friend, and if I want to donate money/take a survey/talk about globalisation I'll do it in my own time so please be nice, and F**K OFF!!"

    In short, I don't like them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭johnplayerblue


    Or when your after spending a small fortune on food at dunnes or somewher and theres some little ****ers packing your bags and then the shake a can/tin of some kind in your face.

    Did you not just see how much i have had to spend to stay alive and now you little basterds want money for packing my **** badly. **** of and die you little *****


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    i'd stop and chat with them if they are cute lookin...otherwise i'll just walk past

    aren't i the shallow one:p


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    If it's always the same ones doing it (like that emo twat you are on about). Then there is a simple solution but it will take up a few minutes of your time unfortunately.

    Next time you see them stop and let them go through all that twaddle they speak. Then just have a nice big discussion about how they are the scum of the earth because they take money from a charity to stand about annoying people. If they say they don't actually earn that much just bullsh!t that you're friend did it one summer and was getting whatever the above posters said (€10 - €12 an hour and commission).

    They will deny it of course and proclaim that they are getting below minimum wage and that they are really just doing it to help people.
    Then just say "Fine. Why don't you get a job that pays decently (even the supermarkets like tesco, dunnes and lidl pay nearly €10 an hour which goes up with every year of service), give the difference to charity and spent your Saturdays volunteering to help these charities." I did this one day during my lunch at work and it was the most fun I've had. Seeing those cúnts squirm while trying to think of a response. Plus you take up time that they could be used signing people up and thus losing them some commission.

    If the debate gets heated enough they won't dare ask you again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭bandit*baby


    "sorry can i have a moment of your time"
    "don't bother mate i'm a student"

    normally gets a laugh and they pi$$ off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Can I have a moment of your time?.....You can have all the moments you want, but you cant have any money.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Gone West


    Heres what I say:


    them: blah etc
    I: Hi how are you, are you a charity worker?
    them: yeah blah etc
    I: *cuts them off mid speil* do you get paid?
    them: yes
    I: right so you're not actually a charity worker, good luck so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Sometimes I stop and talk if they are cute and also to allow other people to escape. But never give money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    "sorry can i have a moment of your time"
    "don't bother mate i'm a student"

    normally gets a laugh and they pi$$ off

    Yea, normally works but one of these hip kids at lunch kept pestering me and wouldn't listen to me:

    "You can save a child's life be giving.........."
    "Sorry bub, don't waste your time on me I'm a student."
    "By donating you can........"
    "I JUST said I'm a student. I barely have enough money to live in this shìtty town."
    "I know man, I barely make minnium wage but if you donate......"
    "*sigh* I'm making nowhere near the minimun wage, I only get paid €280 a week, €100 off that for rent, €50 off that for food & fags, €40 to get to and from my home town every weekend, and the rest I spend enjoying time with my best friends who I only see once a week.
    "Give up the fags then."
    *I cock an eyebrow at him and I lift up my pack of Shepard's Pie*
    "I'm on lunch and I've got to shove these into me, goodbye!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    "An bhfuil aon gaelige agat?"

    Works every time though I'll be stung by some chugger from the Gaelteacht someday.

    excuse the poor spelling


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    As Ray Winstone said in the film Scum:"Bastards,Bastards,Bastards".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    I love chugger threads. Kilkenny have been covered in pink-shirted barnardos chuggers lately :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Today has been the worst though. I leave my work for lunch and I'm greeted by a worker, walk by him and head to Tesco to buy lunch where I'm then greeted at the entrance by anti-abortionists. They give me a leaflet, I buy food and then I walk towards my flat up town. I'm then greeted by 3 different workers, 2 of them being from the same charity but they were spread out. I just wanted to relax for lunch, is that too much to ask?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Slow Motion


    Duggy747 wrote:
    Today has been the worst though. I leave my work for lunch and I'm greeted by a worker, walk by him and head to Tesco to buy lunch where I'm then greeted at the entrance by anti-abortionists. They give me a leaflet, I buy food and then I walk towards my flat up town. I'm then greeted by 3 different workers, 2 of them being from the same charity but they were spread out. I just wanted to relax for lunch, is that too much to ask?

    Sounds like your being stalked :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Sounds like your being stalked :D

    I think I've been nice putting up with them politely for 4 days and they should know my face by now. I swear to god if they come near me again I'm just gonna pull a knife on them and tell them to get the fùck away from me!!! One of them was a hot hippie-chick so I gave her the time of day on Tuesday :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭bandit*baby


    Duggy747 wrote:
    I just wanted to relax for lunch, is that too much to ask?


    you should get a t-shirt with that printed on it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭Don1


    Much in the way dogs smell fear they attempt to sniff out potential generosity but they're just not good at it or subtle when dealing with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    I'm working on setting up arms deals for rival chugger groups, meself, so when the turf wars for the best spots get bloody, I'll be the one making the commission.

    Bwaahahaha!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭BrandonBlock


    lol one of them stopped me last summer on my way to work when I was 2 hours late with an insane hangover, it went somethin like this:

    Chugger: Hiya mate! Can you spare just 1 minute of your time?
    Red-eyed me: Ugh, no g'way
    Chugger: bla bla but you can save this and that for only €3.50
    Red-eyed me: Well, I'm 2 hours late for work and a thumping headache so no
    Chugger: Where do you work?
    Me: Up there
    Chugger: Well you're already 2 hours late what difference is a few minutes gonna make?
    *Walks off*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭stipey


    "I signed up with one of your buddies earlier" (Got this one from a particularly persistant chugger when I asked if there was anything I could say to make me leave them alone)

    or....

    I'd love to.... but I don't want to"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭ScottishDanny


    Give to Charity? I buy scratch cards don't I? ;)

    Try this one

    Chugger: Have you got five minutes to talk about ***?
    You: Yes if you've five minutes to talk about Jesus!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    A few of these (bigger versions of course) just to clean them off the street and watch them go right by you and wave. :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Between chuggers and roma gypsies its like trying to walk down the street in some Indian slum.I remember the days when the only people on the streets who panhandled were friendly tramps looking for ten pence for a cup of tea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Ignorance is bliss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Chugger: Have you got five minutes to talk about ***?
    You: Yes if you've five minutes to talk about Jesus!

    Good one, whip out some rosary beads and banther on about the power of Christ! :D

    Chugger: "Can you spare a minute........"
    You: "No time, Jesus needs me!!!"

    *Look at your watch, pull a distressed face and leg it!*


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    Degsy wrote:
    I remember the days when the only people on the streets who panhandled were friendly tramps looking for ten pence for a cup of tea.
    Aye, and comely maidens dancing at the crossroads...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Slow Motion


    I'm working on setting up arms deals for rival chugger groups, meself, so when the turf wars for the best spots get bloody, I'll be the one making the commission.

    Bwaahahaha!!

    Wasn't there a film about this with Rutgar Haeur in it ? "Salute of the Chugger" or somthin' like that ! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Wasn't there a film about this with Rutgar Haeur in it ? "Salute of the Chuggers " or somthin' like that ! :D

    I think my sig of Rutger Hauer in The HItcher below makes me wanna take the inititive on the bastards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Ishmael


    Usually I find the blocker system works the best.

    Once you spot them, try putting 1/2 people between you and them but make sure its a short enough distance between you and the blocker you're using so they're still bugging them instead of you while you're in the "attack" zone.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Duggy747 wrote:
    I think my sig of Rutger Hauer in The HItcher below makes me wanna take the inititive on the bastards!

    Churring b@stard: Excuse me sir can you spare a few minutes?
    Duggy: No, but I can spare this *cocks gun and pulls trigger*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    Churring b@stard: Excuse me sir can you spare a few minutes?
    Duggy: No, but I can spare this *cocks gun and pulls trigger*
    SimpleSam06: Cha-ching!


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    SimpleSam06: Cha-ching!

    It's always the bottom line with you.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭bandit*baby


    Give to Charity? I buy scratch cards don't I? ;)

    Try this one

    Chugger: Have you got five minutes to talk about ***?
    You: Yes if you've five minutes to talk about Jesus!


    :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Walking through O'Connell Street in Sligo an hour ago. I was holding hands with my two kids and some girl tries to hand me a pro-life leaflet, I told her she should be ashamed of herself. They have a stand set up with graphic pictures of aborted feotus's. There was a squad car with 3 or 4 Guards hanging around. Imagine the questions the kids asked me afterwards. Hope somebody had a good old rant at them, I would have loved to if I didn't have the kids with me.

    I have no problem with chuggers, just keep walking and say a firm no. They know when its hopeless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    "Excuse me sir, have you got a minute"
    "I'll tell you what, I'll donate to the charity if you let me take you out on a date"
    "giggle"
    *smile* "well..."

    Try it with the cute foreigners. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    "Can I have a moment of your time?"


    to which i say



    "No those are my moments! and u aint getting them!"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    once i gave a fake name, address, baank sort code and account details just to get rid of this really persistent ba**ard. but i felt guilty afterwards thinking of someone trying to process the details. so now i dont make eye contact with them, just put the head down and walk past


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 modalcommand


    Best thing is to give them your correct bank details. Let them process it and a few days later cancel it. The charity loses money, and eventually they will give up on employing chuggers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    Here we go again... well done on bringing this back up Duggy!

    It's a **** job. The only ones who earn commission, as far as I know, are ticket sellers. Clipboarders don't. There's a huge turnover in staff. Now, before anyone starts sh!t!ing on about how they're horrific people for taking money from the charity, charities earn a profit from it. If you think charities are run completely voluntarily, you're barking. It's a source of income charities otherwise wouldn't have, and (with the standing order thingy) it allows charities to borrow based on projected earnings, which bucket collections don't allow you to.

    There's nothing you could pay me to make me do that job. There's no way it could be done on a voluntary basis, because you wouldn't get enough people to give up their entire working lives to collect money for charity, and the constant changing of staff if it was done on an hour by hour basis would mean more time spent debriefing than actually working for the charity. In addition, you'd need a group of people who would commit to the same hours every week, regardless of illness/other commitments, in order to keep it going.

    Whatev.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭shay_562


    The only ones who earn commission, as far as I know, are ticket sellers. Clipboarders don't.

    I know people who have worked the clipboard, "can-I -have-a-moment-of-your-time-and-your-bank-details" yoke and made commission, so I'd assume that it varies from charity to charity.

    Eh, they're annoying bastards, but if you completely blank them or give a point-blank "No" when they talk at you they generally stop pretty quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭m83


    I fudgin hate chuggers but I did stop for one a while back. I just stood there completely still, saying absolutely nothing with a wry knowing smile on my face. After about 5 minutes of my silent treatment he just walked away!

    Try it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭pljudge321


    Just quickly say " I'm seventeen" and they'll immediately leave you alone to try sniff out another victim. Course you have to actually look 17.




  • Best thing is to give them your correct bank details. Let them process it and a few days later cancel it. The charity loses money, and eventually they will give up on employing chuggers.

    My bank told me that with direct debit BOTH parties must agree to cancel. I like the "human shield" method but I find large numbers of people crossing the road to avoid them nowadays.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 modalcommand


    Well your bank wasn't telling you the full story. And its not a charity contract with a fixed term and can be cancelled at any time.




  • I went into my Ulster Bank to cancel a charity direct debit and they got all stern and harsh faced and told me a direct debit was different from a standing order and needed consent from both parties to cancel. The reason I canceled was that I was under the impression it was only for a year and then they would contact me again......but a year passed and there was no contact. They didn't even bother sending me out any bit of info on how the charity was doing...nothing.

    You're telling me the trained staff in O'Connell St Limerick are wrong but you're right regarding DD?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 modalcommand


    Yep. Its your account and its your say what happens with your money. You have to tell the bank that you have alerted the other party. That is all. I've done it many times before.


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