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Sales people in Cruises St

  • 26-06-2007 12:57pm
    #1


    Everytime I head down to Cruises St I get one of these guys in purple jumping at me. I never stop but I must look like a good target because they are forever coming up to me. I try to stay polite but they sometimes are quite pushy. I'm curious as to what they want though. Has anyone ever bothered to stop and do whatever it is they want? That way I can say the next time that I already did it.

    I want to punch them sometimes though...the last time I was walking along and one jumped out at me and exclaimed "hello Sunshine!" or yesterday I said "sorry I cant stop" and the twat in question started patting me on the back....just **** Off!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭sioda


    Chuggers one of the worlds plague. Hate them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭talkingclock


    i don't even bother talking to them. there's nothing i have to excuse for...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    Wow... a lot of agression! Ha.. am... They usually have what they are out on the street for writen on what they are wearing! The Thomas Street/Bedford Row/ O'Connell Street Corner is also constantly occupied by some group now too.

    The reason they are being so 'pushy' and saying stuff like sunshine and stuff is because people can be right assholes when your out trying to do some good, they are most likely just trying to express positive energy. If you wrent positive and outgoing like that you'd probably go mad.

    I have never gone out like that, but i have done a few sponsorship things, where i went door to door to raise funds for charity, and you cannot believe but people will either treat you as a crook or some kind of immoral being. Last time i did it some of the responses i got from the doors were so off-putting i was upset for days afterwards. People get punished all too much for trying to do good in this country.

    Oh, but i once saw a childline girl actually follow a guy while he quickly walked away, he even shrugged him off her once or twice - he walked quickly and all but she just kept at him until she just had to head back to crusis street. That kind of thing really is overkill


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    The only time the chuggers on cruises street get the hint is when you start swinging for them. They just don't understand that all the "look at me I'm on drugs" type energy they have really pisses people off. 2 weeks ago I got stopped by one who would not let me leave until he'd finished talking. I made one last peaceful attempt to walk away and he put his arm across my chest to stop me. I had no other choice but to physically remove him from my path with a headbutt.

    I don't usually resort to violence but I have no tolerance for chuggers, no matter what charity they are collecting for.




  • The Thomas Street/Bedford Row/ O'Connell Street Corner is also constantly occupied by some group now too.

    That's what gets me most, the fact they are constantly there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭talkingclock


    The reason they are being so 'pushy' and saying stuff like sunshine and stuff is because people can be right assholes when your out trying to do some good, they are most likely just trying to express positive energy. If you wrent positive and outgoing like that you'd probably go mad.

    Ah, the poor poor chuggers! I bet there were caught in front of their homes, kidnapped and now they are forced by the charity mafia to do those jobs.

    If they want to express positive energy they can do this at home - but not annoying innocent passers-by...


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    They are flogging "Bernardos" today. I work near Cruises St. and hardly a day passes without me being harrassed by these people. It's annoying frankly.

    Charities are by and large a good thing to support, but I'll make my own donations in a time and place of my choosing thanks all the same.

    p.s. Costs of these fundraisers must be very high presumably?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Sunn


    lol, headbutting one.

    I never get stopped by them but if you think its bad in limerick you should see them in dublin. They actually start swinging out of you lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Sunn wrote:
    lol, headbutting one.

    I never get stopped by them but if you think its bad in limerick you should see them in dublin. They actually start swinging out of you lol


    In Dublin they have a phenomenal amount of chuggers. I used to live in Ranelagh and work in Rathmines and one morning on my 15 minute walk to work. (Think walking for 15 minutes between Raheen and Dooradoyle) I was asked for cash or dd 13 times.

    The big irony of it all is that I am a charity worker and was heading to my job at Oxfam at the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    p.s. Costs of these fundraisers must be very high presumably?

    Not really... these people are generally out there for free volunteering their time to help raise these funds for the charities.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭sioda


    A mate of mine got a Cruises Street T-Shirt made up. The front said "I DONT BELIEVE IN CHARITY" and on the back "I ALREADY HAVE A GOD".

    Thus detering that religous crowd as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    sioda wrote:
    A mate of mine got a Cruises Street T-Shirt made up. The front said "I DONT BELIEVE IN CHARITY" and on the back "I ALREADY HAVE A GOD".
    Thus detering that religous crowd as well

    Excellent! haha...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    How about a t-shirt that says....

    "Charity begins at home......how about ME pestering YOU for money ?" :D




  • Before today I had never heard the word "chuggers" before....done a quick search and have seen posts as far back as 2005 (for Dublin). Aren't sales people just all scum though? Whether its charity, telesales, anything involving sales?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭hobie


    I remember being asked by a young gal outside Cruises Hotel (some years ago :p ) if I minded answering some Market research questions .....

    so we talked away for a few minutes ....

    then she asked if i wanted to go into the Hotel and test some samples .... :rolleyes:

    that would be very nice I said .... ;)

    she said they had booked a suite in the Hotel so off we went .... :rolleyes:

    low and behold a room with a bar and Barman .... :confused:

    What do you normally drink she asked .... Smithwicks I replied ....

    and a snap of her fingers and up came a Pint of Smithwicks ..... :)

    now could you try this drink she asked ....:confused:

    O-Key-Doke I replied ....

    snap of the fingers and up came a pint of Guiness ....

    now would you like to taste another type of Guiness she asked .....

    if you insist I replied ...... :)

    snap of the fingers and up came a pint of New Guiness .....

    well .... she asked ..... :confused:

    Very nice I said but could I try another Smithwicks just to see the difference ....

    of course she said and snap snap and up came a pint .....

    now she said if we could just complete the questions ..... what do you do? ....

    ooooooohhhhhh .... she replied .... you don't qualify for the questionaire .... :( .......

    I'll have to leave you to finish your pint and go find another guy ....

    O-Key-Doke and so I did and went home ..... :p

    ps. was it Guiness Light???? .....:confused:




  • I thought she was soliciting you for sex :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭hobie


    So did I but then the Barman turned up ...... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Crea


    Not really... these people are generally out there for free volunteering their time to help raise these funds for the charities.

    No - alot of them get commission from what they collect. They're not there out of the kindness of their hearts. Maybe that's why their so enthusiastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    I was told by a work colleague last year that these people are NOT allowed to approach you. they can shout as much as they like about what they're collecting for, and you may approach them to contribute of you wish. I had a row with one of them to that effect the following day IIRC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    A friend of mine was given a box of (out of date) condoms by some chinese woman promoting safe sex on crusies street a while back............LOL!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭hobie


    When we were kids(as in 5 or 6) in a holiday house, we found a couple of packs of you know whats ..... :rolleyes:

    we blew them up like baloons and hung them up around the house..... :)

    Mother returned and started rounding them up pronto .... :o

    but Mata, what are they for ....

    they are for 'Fixing things' was the reply ..... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    This is an incident i experienced recently:

    Friday 22nd June:

    Charity Worker: *puts out hand* hi im sally! and u are?
    Me: *shakes hand* hi im james
    CW: so what age are you james? over 18?
    Me: no im only 16
    CW: and when will you be 18?
    Me: *says sarcastically* two years if my memory serves me correctly
    CW: *begins to get excited* ok come back to me when you're 18
    Me: *says in not bothered voice* am...yeah...i will *begins to walk away*
    CW: *begins to roar* I WILL BE RIGHT HERE. ON THIS SPOT. I WONT MOVE *gets louder as i walk further away* IM STILL HERE! WAITING FOR YOU!!! ILL BE HERE I WONT MOVE FROM THIS SPOT. ILL BE HERE IN TWO YEARS WAITING FOR YOU

    As if that wasn't bad enough

    Monday 25th June:

    Me: *Walks on other side of street*
    CW: *roars across street* JAMES!!!! IM STILL HERE! WAITING!!
    Me: *gives nervous smile and continues to walk quickly


    I think this is completely uncalled for...how the hell did she remember me?
    it was really weird cos she was in the exact same spot aswell, right outside Carl Scarpa




  • Carl Scarpa? Where's that? lol you're being stalked by a chugger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Carl Scarpa...I remember it used to be where Meteor is now from being dragged in there from a young age...I believe it is now at the further end of the same block on O'Connell St.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Crea


    ninty9er wrote:
    Carl Scarpa...I remember it used to be where Meteor is now from being dragged in there from a young age...I believe it is now at the further end of the same block on O'Connell St.

    Where Gaywear used to be!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not making it up, that was the name of the womens clothing shop - isn't that quaint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    iguana wrote:
    In Dublin they have a phenomenal amount of chuggers. I used to live in Ranelagh and work in Rathmines and one morning on my 15 minute walk to work. (Think walking for 15 minutes between Raheen and Dooradoyle) I was asked for cash or dd 13 times.

    The big irony of it all is that I am a charity worker and was heading to my job at Oxfam at the time.
    totally off the point but id like to see anyone walk from raheen to dooradoyle in 15 mins)
    once walked from childers road to the cresent and it took me 45mins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    1huge1 wrote:
    totally off the point but id like to see anyone walk from raheen to dooradoyle in 15 mins)
    once walked from childers road to the cresent and it took me 45mins

    I meant it as walking for 15 minutes between the two, which is very possible. My aunt lives in Raheen, but is only 15 minutes walk to the Cresent which is in Dooradoyle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    I think it was last week at one stage and i had an unfortunate incident with one girl from ´Barnados´.

    Anyway she asks me if im 18 and i tell her that i am. Anyway she goes on to tell me about all the little children who are beaten by their parents yada yada yada, now i was in a good mood today and i wanted to give a donation. However she wanted me to give her my bank details so they could take money out of my account every week or something like that. Now i had no intention to give her my bank details so i said i couldnt remember them! She asked me if i had my atm card(which i did) i said no. She then says ¨jeez noone has their atm cards today¨ and here i was thinking¨suprise suprise!¨
    Now i asked her if i could give her money now or could i go on to the website and give a donation from there, she said i could but it would be better to give her my details cos they want to know how much they are getting every month. Now i told her i was going and that i would do something on the website, she then decided to give me a guilt trip about how what if there was a little battered and bruised boy standing here beside her, she then decided to follow me as i was walking down o connell street! She wanted to see if i was going to turn into the bank.......thankfully she fcuked off eventually.....

    How do they expect people to give out tehir account details to random strangers....muppets

    GAH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Sunn


    This is an incident i experienced recently:

    Friday 22nd June:

    Charity Worker: *puts out hand* hi im sally! and u are?
    Me: *shakes hand* hi im james
    CW: so what age are you james? over 18?
    Me: no im only 16
    CW: and when will you be 18?
    Me: *says sarcastically* two years if my memory serves me correctly
    CW: *begins to get excited* ok come back to me when you're 18
    Me: *says in not bothered voice* am...yeah...i will *begins to walk away*
    CW: *begins to roar* I WILL BE RIGHT HERE. ON THIS SPOT. I WONT MOVE *gets louder as i walk further away* IM STILL HERE! WAITING FOR YOU!!! ILL BE HERE I WONT MOVE FROM THIS SPOT. ILL BE HERE IN TWO YEARS WAITING FOR YOU

    As if that wasn't bad enough

    Monday 25th June:

    Me: *Walks on other side of street*
    CW: *roars across street* JAMES!!!! IM STILL HERE! WAITING!!
    Me: *gives nervous smile and continues to walk quickly

    v. funny read that. lol.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭hobie


    I've decided after some experience to simply say ..... 'Thank you very much'

    and keep on walking ..... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭yayamark


    ask them for a loan to pay for the charity

    start foaming from the mouth

    start rubbing yourself in private places

    Usually works for me :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭hobie


    yayamark wrote:
    ask them for a loan to pay for the charity

    start foaming from the mouth

    start rubbing yourself in private places

    Usually works for me :)

    That would definitely get me running in the opposite direction .... :p




  • I don't know about you guys but I found Cruises st a nightmare BEFORE the influx of chuggers. Now its a real avoid at all costs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    iguana wrote:
    I meant it as walking for 15 minutes between the two, which is very possible. My aunt lives in Raheen, but is only 15 minutes walk to the Cresent which is in Dooradoyle.
    ok ok Im after getting completly mixed up between dooradoyle and castletroy
    I meant it took castletroy to raheen
    completly disregard my post
    sorry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭yaledo


    I spent 5 weeks working as a chugger in Galway city. I got 30% commission on every lottery ticket I sold. This was my only source of income, I made about 50 bucks a day on average.

    Here is some information about what it is:

    1. The people selling these tickets usually earn 30% commission. They are obliged to carry a copy of a license. Ask to see their license every time. If they do not have a copy, or it is not in date, alert the nearest Garda, generally, the cops are as bugged by these people as you and me are... but there's not a thing they can do about it. Ask what their commission is, check that this is less than the maximum specified on their license. Ask how much they raise for the charity in a day. Ask how many other people their boss is supplying with tickets? Do they think it's his primary source of income? Get them to figure out with you how much their boss is earning. Tell them that only an idiot should buy a ticket from them, since it is usually easy to make a donation to the same charity directly, without 40% going to cover 'expenses'

    2. There are people using this license in a totally legit way... whose only motivation is to raise money for a charity they feel strongly about. I have given people the 3rd degree and felt guilty afterwards when I realised this was the case... Not all of them are as bad as I was!

    3. Generally, you will find that the kids on the street are earning 30%, and the guy with the car boot full of batches of tickets is earning an unspecified amount - legally the total commission should be less than 40%, but that is very difficult to verify.

    4. They do get money from well-meaning idiots which would otherwise end up being spent unwisely anyway.

    5. When I was doing this job, it was rumoured that the guy we were getting the tickets from (supposed to be taking 10% or less) had bought these tickets from a private company in Dublin at auction. I don't know whether that is the case or not. He certainly had paid in advance for these tickets. The charity that is being represented has already been paid all the money they are going to get for these tickets... by buying one you are repaying the investment of the entrepreneur who has taken it upon himself to recruit kids to sell these on the street. None of your money goes to the charity (though it does enable the entrepreneur to buy another batch if he wishes... so it certainly benefits the charity, just indirectly)

    6. The tickets I was selling were €3. A lot of people would give €5 and not look for change. If I kept the €2, I would have no knowledge of how to pass this on to the charity. If I passed it on to my boss I would have no way of finding out what he did with it. I insisted every time that I would not accept any more than the face value of the ticket. At the end of the day I would discuss the days work with the other kids doing the same job as me... almost all the rest of them would always keep that €2 in their own pocket! Many of them referred to that as ... wait for it... "TIPS"!!! They did not seem to understand what was wrong with that... The only interest they had in the particular charity they represented was that the charity was a means for them to earn money for themselves.

    7. If you bought a lottery ticket from a tall vociferous, persistant guy in Galway in the Summer of 2002, in aid of "The Hanley Centre" in Dublin, then I thank you for helping with my rent that Summer. I urge you now to pick out a charity that you like, and give them as much money as you can spare. Give this money to them through as direct a route as you can. Ideally, lodge the money in their bank account yourself.


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  • There's a guy down there today, at the corner of Thomas St and O'Connell St, wearing a very silly hat and having a torrid time.

    I stood across the road watching and he was offering his hand to loads of people and approaching them and simply getting ignored ad nausem. What a ****ing horrible job...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭yayamark


    i saw a lad playing the accordion there at about 2pm didnt see any chugger.

    Meant to walk on to cruisers st and forget doh! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭hobie


    I walked up the street this morning ..... it's a bit of an obstacle course that's for sure .... :rolleyes:

    A guy in front of me was asked ......

    Hi I'm barbara ...... :)

    no answer ..... :(

    are you from Russia? ..... :confused:

    no I'm $$$$$$ not, came the reply in a deep Limerick accent ..... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭adaminho


    There's a guy down there today, at the corner of Thomas St and O'Connell St, wearing a very silly hat and having a torrid time.

    I stood across the road watching and he was offering his hand to loads of people and approaching them and simply getting ignored ad nausem. What a ****ing horrible job...
    He was still there at 9.10 lastnight and still getting ignored! I was heading from Thomas street to the bank and he came up to me. I told him I was busy so he said "I'll Just sign you up quickly" so I told him no he Fupping wouldn't!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭hobie


    There's no doubt about it ...some of these guys and gals have a real cheek ....... :rolleyes:

    I wonder if they go through a special training course on selling .... :confused:

    (run by the K G Beeeeeeeeee ........)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 davemc06


    Happened to me before a chugger was asking for money, I was going into Arthurs Key into Tesco and only had a note, all the money I had.
    He asked for money. I simply told him I was "sorry don't have any chance, be back out the door in a few mins."
    As I was walking away he decided to shout at me " Oh no need to say sorry you did nothing at all. "
    So walked straight past him on the way out and there, he stood up and called me, I walked over the road and gave my change to another charity! He saw it too! Hahaha.
    I passed him many times that day just to laugh at him! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    There's a guy down there today, at the corner of Thomas St and O'Connell St, wearing a very silly hat and having a torrid time.

    I stood across the road watching and he was offering his hand to loads of people and approaching them and simply getting ignored ad nausem. What a ****ing horrible job...

    boo-hoo if they dont want to annoy the piss out of people all day any number of places are hiring around town,usually a simple **** off gives them the right message


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    I specifically said to one the other day. "I'm only buying the card because you didn't come up and hound me"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    ^^ you may of just created a new sales technique
    brillaint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    ninty9er wrote:
    I specifically said to one the other day. "I'm only buying the card because you didn't come up and hound me"

    LOL nice one!

    I'll keep that in mind the next time I am...................'hounded' LOL!


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